If my Niagara Falls photo sporting Pride colors offended you last night then you need more πŸ«‚, πŸ€™πŸ», and πŸ’œ in your life and it shows.

Pride isn't about pushing an agenda or narrative. Pride is about showing support for people that didn't have our public support for quite some time. They were ridiculed. They were discriminated against. They were killed.

Supporting Pride means that you support love and freedom to love whomever you want to love and should be able to live your life however you choose.

If a group of people were persecuted for hundreds of years, I think 30 days of public support from time to time sounds like the least we could do.

Besides, it doesn't hurt me to support another human. But, it's possible that it could make them feel all that much better.

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I am proud to be a lesbian, we are married almost 20 years ago.....we do no harm anybody, and don't judge, sad to read stuff like that.....

But happy to see that not all people think that way.....

The need of a pride month is still needed unfortunately....

I completely agree with you, my friend. It's important for us to support and celebrate diversity in all its forms, including the LGBTQ+ community. Pride is a time for people to come together and show solidarity with those who have faced discrimination and persecution throughout history.

By supporting Pride, we are sending a message of love and acceptance that can help to break down barriers between different groups of people. This kind of positivity is exactly what we need more of in our world today.

As for your Niagara Falls photo sporting Pride colors - I think it's fantastic! It's great to see people expressing themselves freely and proudly without fear of judgment or persecution. No one should be made to feel ashamed or embarrassed about who they are or who they love.

And finally, I couldn't agree more about growing Nostr! As a decentralized messaging protocol that enables fast, secure communication without intermediaries or centralized control, Nostr has the potential to revolutionize the way we connect with each other online. Let's keep spreading the word!

Spread fun and love πŸ€™πŸ’œ

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Why are there pride parades? Because people who have been famously persecuted for centuries for "loving wrong" can feel accepted and safe for a moment.

Celebrate it or don't. But live and let live. If it bothers you, go do something that doesn't bother you. You deserve your space too.

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Pride is a bit obnoxious at this point, but I agree that everyone should be able to make whatever choice is right for them. The corporatizing of it is getting overbearing though.

Corporations going all in on Pride month and then being silent the next 11 months is obnoxious because they're obviously only participating for group think and to participate in the current thing. IMO.

The gay homo transvestite community is definitely going too far. Hijacking feminism and womanhood, pushing their debauchery in public schools, etc...

People who used to not care, like me, are getting really feed up. We will be pulling or kids out of the socialist public schools this year, which removes tons of money from that socialist school system.

I think it's more complicated than that.

Take the American flag for example, to some people it's a symbol of unity and freedom, to others it's oppression, slavery, war and imperialism.

Similar thing with pride (these days, not like when we were younger)

To some it's celebrating gay people who've been discriminated against (and still happens), to others it's pushing to accept and idea that you can change genders, men can compete against women in sports, and children being sexually castrated.

I'm noticing that the anti-pride sentiment is growing relative to just like 5-6 years ago, and I don't think it's because people are upset about celebrating gay people. I think it's because it sort of is asking you to do a bunch of doublethink around genders.

My observations at least.

I don't try to overcomplicate things. I do agree on your American flag analogy though.

I agree with you. However, I've an argument - Pride from a larger perspective aims to dismiss the scientific facts about gender and sexuality. While every ally or homosexual won't be disagreeing with science and at the same time not every person of science would be hateful.

Where do we reach at the consensus? Let's not forget, many scientists were killed for their discoveries.

From a larger perspective as you said, 10% of the human race being gay or lesbian doesn't hurt our population growth. We're still exploding. πŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œ

Sorry Derek but Japanese population collapse is real and a real threat for rest of the countries see why Elon is worry on this. Also...

https://twitter.com/stone_toss/status/1670937746079186944

We can't blame Japan's issues on being gay or lesbian. That's a bit silly. They have plenty of issues.

Like everyone else, I'm not blaming them. Anyways.

10% in older generations, yet somehow we are supposed to think 1 in 5 of Gen Z (20%) is not driven by indoctrination and propaganda?

Sorry, I don't buy it. And this isn't coming from a place of 'hate'.

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I don't care who identifies as whatever. Idc if someone identifies as a whale. However, I don't want it to go as far as dismissing decades of research just to make someone feel good πŸ˜ͺ

Agreed. We don't need research or expertise to be able to logically identify what a man or woman is.

Pride is a sin. There is no pride movement for straight people. If you have to express pride in who you are and seek acceptance in who you are, then deep down you are admitting that what you're doing is wrong and you are trying to force society into thinking your way.

Pride is all about acceptance of lifestyles that are antithetical to civilization and tradition.

I'm straight. I feel pride towards my wife, kids, my friends and family. I couldn't imagine not publicly expressing pride for them. I'm also not religious πŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œ

Judging people for how they love is hate and the ultimate sin. The hypocrisy is forcing non-straight people to thinking your way.

Does a father not correct his son, whom he loves, to ensure that he does not harm himself by doing something dangerous out of ignorance?

What you perceive as judgment, is in fact done out of love, to prevent future pain that will result in the sin that is pride.

In this analogy, the only danger and pain comes from that father and those who think like him. That’s a terrible analogy and used as an excuse to persecute and discriminate against non-straight people.

The danger that comes in fathers that don't think like him are children that go into the world thinking that anything they do makes them righteous.

Narcissistic people like that are dangerous to a functioning society.

That has nothing to do with not being straight. This has everything to do with raising children who treat and judge others poorly. Everything you said applies to straight people in a proportionate way.

I’m straight, and I have many friends and colleagues who aren’t straight and are exceptional human beings to others, themselves, and me. They just love. That is the absolute truth. All the pain and danger they have ever encountered is from people who do not accept that truth. I’m not going to be able to convince you and you have the right to your own beliefs, but I will defend them against people like you for as long as I live. Peace.✌🏼

Love does not equate to lust is my main point. But we agree to disagree. That is what makes free speech so important in the end and all our mission on #Nostr so important πŸ€πŸ«‚πŸ’œ

I don’t really care if love is or isn’t lust is my main point, but I digress. Yes, freedom of speech and our ability to have open dialog is very important. πŸ’œ

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It's a good analogy that conveys truth. It doesn't settle well with you because you reject God and accept the world instead.

Yeah, because I live in reality.

You only live in a materialist reality, which is a subset of reality.

#[5]​ You’re not the dad of gay people, many of whom are adults anyway. Why not mind your own business?

Judging others for not accepting how people lust is the ultimate sin. Straight people not accepting the psyop to accept the relative line of thought that your truth and love is what matters most, and not the absolute truth is the ultimate sin.

I do not express pride in anything. Actions speak louder than words. If I have to express that to the public, then my actions are not speaking for them themselves

Love seeing this perspective. Thanks Derek! πŸ€™

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And don't forget that they still killed and persecuted in many parts of the world.

Good point. Isn't it illegal to be gay in Russia?

No its not. They have many gay bars and beibg gay is not illegal in Russia. However it is illegal in Texas. Pride has promoted alot of Russophobia as we can see with this comment.

There was an american journalist in Sochi, Russia during the Olympic games. He visited a gay bar and asked the patrons if they are harrassed by Putin and the Russian government. The gay men turned around and said "the only people who harrass us here are american journalists!"

Here is a famour gay bar in Russia https://www.clubmayak.com/

actually you can look up state laws. Sodomy is illegal in Texas, but beastiality with your horse isnt. This is not a joke.

THIS is the way fam. -- Freedom & Love wins. -- Let's get it!

This is an awesome thread with alot of great conversation and contributions. --//-- Re: the tides and waves over time in culture, and the beer, protests and 'woke pushback, --the majority of the energy behind these narrative is created by the folks that want to have that argument---the division and public distraction is the point ----if WE The People---are having silly nonsense arguments over beer and flags--- WE are not working together to learn about the power of Bitcoin while large institutions move in to claim as much of that inevitable future as they can. --//-- As far as birth rates in Japan...one can't just sum the number of genders and apply to the rest of the world--Japan also had oldest workers in the Fukushima spontaneously decide to have the older workers remain re: long term radiation---there is a very different cultural expectation of responsibility--- you don't have 8 children around a trailer in Japan is the notecard version. -- Not apples to apples re: population growth---different cultures, economies, etc.

People should take care of themselves and stop worrying about what the other person is doing.

Wise words from my grandma.

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Sorry, I do not support the LGBTPEDO+ community. I will not support the destruction of womenhood by toxic transvestite cross dressing men.

Bring gay or lesbian doesn't mean you're a pedophile. You're been grossly misinformed.

Having children hold a massive penis looks kinda weird though πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

A bit sus

Says the account thats been paid for posting penis…

It's absolutely fucked up. But I wouldn't say that one odd photo defines an entire group of people. Remember the photos of Nazis at the Canadian Trucker Convoy and how we did that the convey and movement was not terrorists or Nazis or bad people? It wasn't but one photo can be used by people with an agenda to spin an entire narrative? We were smart enough to see through it and it and we argued that bad people are part of every movement. The same applies here.

Oh I know Derek , just a gross pic

Sorry for my voice to text failures above. I'm glad you could figure out what I meant. πŸ«‚πŸ’œ

Sorry I missed the part where a penis is a bad thing? Last time I checked my son has one, and holds it when he pees. If your talking about sexualizing youth my daughters apps are showing adds pushing make up, weight loss pills, etc. The right is strangely quiet when its their sexual orientation being pushed on kids.

As for the Nazi flag, fascists should be belittled,humiliated, and deplatformed. Last time I checked i never supported something that had Nazis showed up to. The trucker protests occurred because individuals picked and choose when they saw fit to follow β€œtheir charter” which also happened to have them dance on the tomb of the unknown soldier, many of whom died fighting Nazis.

Not a single charter right was broken by the Prime minister. If the government did want to trounce rights section 33 the notwithstanding clause can be used. The inability for individuals to understand the institutions and documents that are created and made to maintain my Federalist Nationstate is inexcusable.

I don’t hate because someone doesn’t understand others plight in this world, i pity them

Absolutely. Fuck Nazis.

Thanks Derek, i was an active participant in disrupting the trucker protest. While it brought the need for bitcoin into the mainstream, one only needs to realize my only right in Canada is to have a federal election every 5 years.

I know we're getting into the weeds here with this, and it's my fault for using the convoy as an analogy, however I think the convoy has good arguments too. Truckers wanted to protest a mandate they didn't believe in or at best, didn't want to be forced to do something with their bodies. I can agree with that 100%. If you lived in Ottawa though, and had it impact your life, I'm sure you feel indifferent. You maybe understand the movement, but not being able to sleep or go to work hurts you too. I also feel that the tuckers being treated as terrorists is a bit much. They were nonviolent. If anything, it showed the world the benefit of Bitcoin as you said.

Everything is spot in there. If anything it was the government's inability to act in a timely fashion (when had govt ever been timely) that caused the elongated protest.

Just cause we disagreed doesn't mean we can't be friends, what kind of world would transpire if we all thought the same. Bitcoin is for friends and enemies alike.

Sorry you found so many people who took offence to a waterfall

I seen that picture and that didn't even cross my mind.. it was a dope pic πŸ™ŒπŸΎ ppl are weird

I didn't think about it until it was brought up.

Homosexuality and the rest of the alphabet culture are socially and personally degenerate. The behavior is genetic suicide. In the same way that degenerate behaviors like gambling or alcoholism shouldn’t be celebrated with β€œpride” so should it be for this lifestyle choice. And no, I don’t hate these people and I have friends who would be in this camp, but I also don’t condone this behavior. I used to think like you but then I saw that this isn’t some 2-5% minority holding fast over time. Since this sin has been celebrated and normalized, every subsequent generation has become increasingly identified with it. Around 20% of Gen Z are alphabet people. Something evil is happening here and it will not end well.

And these people that you consider friends, you tell them this?

Yes. If you really love someone, you will tell them the truth instead of pretending to give a shit but actually just looking out for yourself by tickling ears with your words.

While I agree with the sentiment (real love & care must be rooted in reality) I don't think it's possible to "pray away the gay."

It is possible that some past abuse was the catalyst (homosexuality is highly correlated with abuse) & finding ways to heal past trauma can be helpful in whatever sort of relationships a person wishes to pursue. But we get more of what we focus on, the more you focus on the thing you want to get rid of, the more of that thing you are going to get. Focusing on emotional healing & fostering healthy relationships (including healthy boundaries & basic habits), & otherwise treating someone like family (with no focus on sexual preference one way or the other) is really the way forward.

There are many former homosexuals who found a new life in following Christ. So, you are just flat out wrong. I have met some of these people.

Just as you can kick other bad habits, it is entirely possible to leave behind a homosexual lifestyle.

Well... I know a whole lot of really fucked up people who use religion to hide from a whole bunch of their problems. The question is are you seeing reality or just what you want to see? Did you really help heal them or did you help them build a religious mask in order to hide from deeper issues in a new way?

There seem to be some intelligent & pretty based Christians in Bitcoin & libertarian spheres, but they are a tiny minority in what otherwise seems to be a world of fantasy & delusion & all sorts of weird social masks. Most churches seem to be a path to greater delusion today than any sort of return to reality. In other words, most are more like houses of satan than houses of God.

Too few see how this movement has been co-opted and is being used to push ESG / SEL / SDG, etc. It's been chosen as a Maoist attack vector against classical liberalism. This is explicitly stated by Marcuse, Butler, Rubin, Crenshaw, etc. It's one thing to love the sinner, hate the sin on an individual basis. It's another to recognize and reject a Maoist cultural revolution on the other.

I'm pretty sure this was always the intent of the so called "gay rights" movement but it has become much more obvious lately. I'm surprised so many still think it is some good-hearted grass roots thing. It is basically the new flag of the radical marxists in the West. In ancient times, conquered peoples would be subjugated and the men castrated. In modern times, they psyop the men into cutting off their own dicks and the women into sterilizing themselves and it is celebrated as the height of "acceptance" and "love."

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I get your point.

As much I mock and hate the agenda, I don’t hate the individuals, as long as they’re making sense. I may dislike some of them, but I don’t hate them, as long as they’re making sense. Couple years ago I was even in support of all the pronouns and lgbt stuff. And oh boy have things changed on me lol.

I think most people have no problem with a man being with another man. I am a Christian. I don’t hate homosexuals. I don’t like em I don’t hate em, I don’t care about them. They absolutely should have the right to be with whoever they want to.

The problem is there is no separation between pride flag and lgbt community anymore. You can’t say there’s agenda and there’s the community, because when the agenda push some nonsense, majority of their community agrees, and they defend it even they know it’s logically flawed deep in their mind. It’s like when you see the red Chinese flag, do you think of Chinese people or the CCP? Perhaps both. But so many Chinese would mindlessly support the commie agenda to the point that you can’t really separate the two anymore. So when you see a Chinese flag, you think a lot more about just China. You think about communism, you think about massacre, you think about famine, you think about censorship and totalitarianism. Same goes with the pride flag, or confederate flag.

Another thing is why do I have to be lectured for something I didn’t do? It’s like lecturing a white kid in 2023 about slavery and racism. They didn’t own any slaves and likely haven’t been racist. There’s a large chance neither did their parents. But they have to sit there and take it, because they’re white? I don’t think that make sense.

And where do we draw the line? Is the whole β€œmy reality” thing too far? Is it too far to have pride flag in preschool? Is it too far to teach third grade about how men have sex with each other? Is it too far to have a biological male dressed as a woman shaking his balls in front a 8 years old girl? Is it too far to cut off a 13 years old girl’s breast? I really start to realize once you let one pass, they will try to get as many nasty shit to slide as they can. They will do it in the name of their agenda. You might know that it’s the corps agenda. They don’t. To them, it’s their agenda. It’s their identity. And when they are convinced it’s all they have, they will defend it as vicious as they can. They are just like the little red guards. And the social and political atmosphere is really starting to feel similar.

Adults sexually dancing in front of children is creepy as fuck and weird as fuck no matter if you're straight or gay. The vast majority of people agree on that. I also believe that anyone allowing their children to make life changing surgical decisions before they are mature enough to understand their emotions and actions is very, very wrong.

I don’t have much problem as long as they keep lgbt stuff away from kids, I don’t have much problem with them.

The thing is I see so many of these parents support even like β€œall age” drag show and drag story time and shit like that. Not even online, but also around me in real life. I’m not even in California or something. It’s very clear they are targeting the young generation because they’re more acceptive.

Teaching acceptance at a young age is fine, but there's a god damn line that needs to be drawn. I taught my kids acceptance without taking them to see a drag show. Some parents are onvita little lost and trying to hard for acceptance that they lost the mission.

Yes. But it’s very hard to draw a line when everything is fluid.

Moral and rules need to be brought back to society, but it can’t, since it’s considered bigotry.

Acceptance is important but what we’re witnessing right now is not the way. Allowing hypocrisy and nonsense is not acceptance.

But yes. We do urgently need to draw the line.

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That is a very noble point of view of yours, but I’m not sure that the discriminated groups you refer to agree with your point of view. I’m afraid they are indeed pushing an agenda.

I'm sure some are. There are bad people in every nook and cranny of the world. The worst people are often the loudest. I'd bet the majority of people just want to be left alone, accepted, and live their lives.

Love the sinner, hate the sin

This is acceptable to me. You don't have to agree with everything that someone does.

I have yet to meet some who says that who truly β€œloves the sinner”. Not saying they don’t exist, but…

I have dear friend who is gay. I have told him I hope someday he leaves that lifestyle and finds a wife so he can have a family. So yeah, here I am.

Agreed. Love isn’t coddling and just giving into whatever makes someone β€œhappy”. Love is difficult, and makes decisions based on growth and morals.

I accept who my friends are and don't try to change them.

So, if your friend was drinking himself to death with alcohol, you'd just pat him on the back and give him another beer?

I don't get the comparison of alcoholism and gay sex? Can you elaborate?

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Sames. I don't get the analogy.

They think that both are a choice and a disease that could be cured

Yes, homosexual behavior is a choice. "Born this way" is a lie. Otherwise, how can you explain how 3-4 generations ago there were perhaps 1-2% of the population practicing these behaviors and now 20% of Gen Z claim to be alphabet people? The West went from tolerance of it, to "acceptance" of it to now full-on celebration. Now it is "cool" to be in this club and it is pushed by all major media, governments and corporations.

My friend told me many years ago that if it wasn't for closeted married men, that he would have barely had gay sex. My point here is that the lower percentage of "out" men has increased as it's been more socially acceptable to be gay. The numbers are only "going up" because acceptance is rising. Do you hink that makes sense?

Entertaining read all this πŸ˜… Feels like I'm in a cult gathering, or a Jersey Mafia series named ...?

Alcoholism is degenerate behavior. Gay sex is also degenerate behavior. Both have negative social and personal consequences. The culture that gave you all of the good things you enjoy in life called these behaviors "sinful" and they were discouraged up until 20-30 years ago. And my point is that, if you know your friend is actively harming himself and you do nothing to help him, you aren't much of a friend.

I don't believe my two friends that have sex with one another are hurting themselves or slowly killing themselves so I don't reach out and ask them to stop. If they were alcoholics, I would talk to them about it and try to help them.

Okay, so you would talk to your friend if you believed their behavior was damaging to themselves. We are in agreement on that. I happen to believe homosexuality is damaging to men and you don't. As I said earlier, at a minimum homosexuality is genetic suicide. So you are happy that your friends are effectively voluntary eunuchs. I think that is quite sad.

That's okay man. They provide to the world in other ways. πŸ«‚

I wouldn't want to be single and childless on my death bed. That is sad.

Me either, man. My kids are the best parts of my life. People that don't want kids confuse me a bit, because they would be missing out on so much love and joy. I would accept their decision even though I don't fully understand it.

All God’s children.

If only the people pushing that propaganda respected other people not being ok with it....

So you're saying we should all respect your lack of respect? Nah, fuck off.

That's it buddy, get your opinion respected without respecting the other....

I can't give to shits if someone loves the same gender. I do give a shit when you don't respect someone's opinion of it not being ok. Seems to me, you are being the intolerant one, fucking biggot.

This is not a meet in the middle issue. If you disrespect then you're going to get it right back. If you don't like it then mind your own business, it's not that hard. You don't see me constantly posting about and disrespecting religion and religious people despite the pervasiveness of it that exists in society. If I bitched about every Jesus billboard I saw I'd look like a whiney bitch, which is what you all look like when you complain about pride being "shoved down your throat".

Commie fucker.

"This is not a meet in the middle issue. "

No matter what you said after that, I ignored it....

But God and Jesus represent truth and morals. The antichrist manipulates words into thinking that pride is good, when in fact it is evil. The only thing it truly represents in their view is sexual.

I'm not religious but even I know pride is sin

Belief in God is irrational and being religious does not give you moral authority. That's all I'll say on the subject because it's impossible to have a rational discussion with someone that believes something so irrational.

You aren't thinking rational either. Just because you don't believe in God, doesn't make you right.

Well, God is Love and Love is God. Love has no emotion, is pure logic and always right and never wrong. Help me understand what is irrational?

If you don't know this, then you have no Love. Belief is a doubt...

Great discussion by the way.

I applaud you brother, for you are the discriminated one in this current day world. God be with you.

You've already used your belief in God as justification for defining what is love, what is truth, and what is moral. I disagree with your definitions. If we try to have a discussion about these things we will be talking about different things with the same words and get nowhere. Even the definition of God is going to vary wildly from person to person. How can we have a rational discussion if we can't even agree on the definitions of the words we are using?

I am an Apatheist anyway, which means that I believe discussions about God hold no value and are not worth pursuing. Please respect that by not pushing me into a discussion I do not wish to have and I will respect your right to believe whatever you want. I only brought up religion to make a point, I really don't want to talk about it.

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Maybe you guys should learn to respect someone else's opinions before demanding respect of yours.

With all due respect Derek, supporting individual people is fine, of course, but supporting/championing the coordinated authoritarian/ corporate/ media/ governmental bad-faith campaigns to systematically force this garbage down everyone's throats is stupid. It's analagous to supporting/ championing the fiat money system and big banks, which is completely retarded as everyone here knows. Think about it.

If I resist governments' brainwashing regarding fiat currencies and banks, you love me. But if I resist governments' brainwashing on social topics that they have absolutely no business even discussing, suddenly I'm an evil bigot? Brutha please

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Would love to hear you explain to your children what it means to be LGBTQABCDEFGHIjK....

Do you tell your male child they're gay if they are friends with another boy? No, you don't... what do you tell your children that LG blah blah blah mean then?

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I'm all for equal treatment of people, but I think "pride flags" & "pride month" are really as destructive & divisive as black history month or Juneteeth. They all perpetuate the stupid & arbitrary separation that the bigots wanted in the first place. In the words of Morgan Freeman, "Do you want a white history month? ...just stop talking about it!"

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Somehow pride went from β€œlet’s leave everyone alone and let them live their life” which I agree with, into β€œheteronormativity is evil, traditional families are evil, there are too many people on earth, and we need to convert and sterilize children”.

Keep anti-family indoctrination out of schools. Live your life. Be free. Just don’t groom our children.

Homophobes in the comments crack me up. Reality check..no one cares if you're cool with someone being gay or not so the sooner you get over it the better

Tearing people with respect and dignity is a lesson that is learned from strong households and communities, not from governments and corporations disingenuously flying the pride flag. The same entities who profit from financial apartheid and forever wars suddenly care about the LGBT community and the black community? I don't buy it

https://youtube.com/watch?v=_ELJPESA938

Flags suck. They represent different things to different people. To me, the pride flag represents annoying and often tyrannical people trying to shove crap down my throat.

Look, I am not interested in other peoples sexual orientation. For me it's not "showing support" - it's a kind of propaganda. In Germany at every corner you get this "pride" shit pressed on the eye. If you don't like it or you cannot see it anymore you get brandmarked "homophob" and as "Nazi". Fun fact: I have some friends which are gay - they feel exact like me. I think no normal human has a problem that some of us has a different sexual orientation. And sure, there are people wich are not "normal" and have a problem with it. But this people you will never convince with flags and propaganda. It's too much and it's just annoying and I think it will not contribute to acceptance but on the contrary.

This is the problem with dragging everything into the political realm, there can be no neutrality. In a sense, I agree with you, it shouldn't be that big of a deal to wear a shirt or celebrate a holiday of your choosing.

As a gay though, one married before the federal mandate, I can assure you this support is neither required nor desired. All I need and deserve is my property rights and freedom of association, give me the same tax benefits everyone else gets and you won't hear a peep out of me. Attaching your identity to your sexuality was something I have always been against; nothing about the way I live my life is reflective of anything but what I value, I like cars and computers and I work with wrenches and screwdrivers.

America is the right for the gay dudes to defend their pot plants with AR15s and protest the chemicals they put in the water.

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