If I had to stay in the uk I'd pick Devon.

My memory of those 2011 riots was sitting at a pavement table eating pasta to the sound of crickets.

No thank you.

What I want to know is just what are the limits of what people are willing to give up in order to use social media?

I thought NOSTR was going to put all those old systems out of business.

Ed Harris is the actor who played NASA director Gene Kranz and also astronaut John Glenn. I suppose there could have been somebody actually working there with that name.

Yeah can't wait for the quantum financial system 🤣

Are you sure this is for real? I can't find it.

Whatcha talkin about? It's just like English summer LoL

Well those who claim to have an optimistic crystal ball on world affairs might reckon we are in for a rough ride, as the current system collapses or is destroyed, but that if things go as hoped we are in for a much better situation afterwards. Those with a darker outlook think it's same story different ending. If the former are right, hang on, it'll be fine as long as you keep your wits about you. If the latter are right then best party while you can because things will get grim and there's nothing we can do about it.

oh dear

The only thing I can think of is to remove all funds that I can from Bisq, cut my losses that way, then reinstall and begin again. The problem with that is that it seems impossible to totally remove every trace - the old wallets etc all come back. If you know how to at least flatten the installation properly without nuking my hard drive then that would be very much appreciated. Nobody seems to have the answer to that either.

Bottom line is I'm still no closer to clearing the locked up wallet and nobody has an answer. And nobody can even look at what is really going on in my client without me providing sensitive data.

OK, you get the problem. Bisq may be open source but their organisation - such that it is - is completely opaque. Getting real help from somebody who can actually do something about a situation, well, frankly it's impossible.

Plus there is nobody who can, say, update the website with clear info about where to got to for help and where not to. When you're seeing your funds locked up and pages and pages of technical jargon to even begin to know where to turn, the temptation is to grasp at anything.

So after endless discussions like these, and others, and spending hours wading through pages of impenetrable technical jargon I still seem no closer to the answer I need.

And I'm not about to hand over my keys. BUT, there is a reality check needed here, and there are genuine reasons to share keys with other systems, and this is a massive elephant in the room.

Moreover, I can protect my keys all I want, but if a trading partner divulges his keys in the middle of a trade, then I can still get totally rugged.

All of this means that, while I am in awe of the technical elegance of Bisq, until there is a proper, approachable organisation behind it, the way there is with, say, Exodus, I think it's just too fucking dangerous.

Whenever I'm late and in a hurry and I get stuck behind a slow-moving car, I remind myself the driver is an angel sent to keep me from a terrible accident somewhere up ahead.

The moral is you never know what twists there will be in the plot, and you sometimes can't tell if something is good or bad until a long way down the track.

Too late. I'm going back to notched sticks, groats and eggs for payment.

Sheesh I'm trying to zap but I can't even do that. Is it me or is there some major disruption taking place?

Thanks! Yet another "official" Bisq channel on telegram. The chat help on bisqwiki dot online said it was a different one. I love using bisq when it works but when it goes wrong the downside of decentralisation bites hard. One gets so far with help systems then when it's clear it's a hard problem the line just goes dead. The last help dude just said "wow this is really confusing" and disappeared. It's now clear I can't risk using it anymore.

Oh gosh somebody fire the Iris continuity guy. Time and again I answer one post only to find it attached to another. Prigozhin!

Don't even get me started on Betamax