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Fair enough. Sorry if I came off combative.

I see that phrase far more used in the hard metaphysical sense.

"everything is subjective" people piss me off too

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I think, at that point, you are using the term “absolute” incorrectly, and thus, leading me to assume an argument you didn’t intend to make.

As for your example: “practically assured” sure. Make it into a spike pit. There is a describable real circumstance where there is no guessing—the person is just gone.

But it is the relativism I am trying to address.

I still think you are right on deflation, mind you (and, considering our current issue is INFLATION, deflation, therefore is the inevitable result of anything that solves the inflation issue).

use whatever word you like.

i think theres a difference between your "falling into a pit of spikes" and the inevitability of the hard cap.

I dont think its likely to turn out well for people try to force "Permanence" on natural systems like human exchange.

but mostly I was screwing around, maybe I'm wrong.

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Yes, because you’re wrong. If you walk off a cliff, you will die. If you chug acid enough, you will die. We do certain things and refrain from others because there are laws to both human nature and the nature around us, which was the point of the OP’s point. Too hot, we die. Too cold, we die. There is a window of variables within which human life thrives and outside of which it does not… and further outside of which we die. THAT is an absolute.

Subjective reality = subjective morality = “anything goes”. But that doesn’t work because the “subjective” is not possible outside of the objective parameters our lives require.

Everything else is sophistry.

False axioms are not axioms. A subjective axiom is a contradiction in terms. Contradictions cannot exist.

i think you mean

"if you hit the ground at terminal velocity, death is practically assured"

which isn't an "absolute" (like the abstract speed of light or Bitcoin supply etc),

its just consistent enough to be reliable.

and your window of survivability changes over time. so in what way can you call that "absolute"?

I'm not arguing pro relativism but theres a material difference between the tendencies you describe and what I'm talking about as "absolute".

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Way to dodge the Socratic questioning.

So you affirm that finding those things (or proving them impossible) would establish an absolute?

Axioms exist.

oh I see

you wanted to argue.

in the reality of you and I as people there are no hard absolutes.

the "speed of light" is just an idea on a piece of paper. it isnt meaningful or relevant to our experienced reality. all "absolutes" are abstract and arent something people actually deal with in nature.

at least I cant think of anything off the top of my head.

so yea,

its an axiom that there are no hard absolutes in human experience.

you gotta problem with that?

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Is that an absolute?

lol

well, let me know when we find the edge of the universe or something faster than the speed of light.

"21 million only" is unnatural 😂

#Bitcoin

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rafael_xmr

shoutout to nostr:npub14a6q6xvt4wuv0wpdpfr336e4fweldtu6np3ehpw55h83xuw2h2zsgyz6rn nostr:npub1p3za04z7mv86mkjzzhfkegxe4wsvwudct5m3wajt3gfg6hjy8exslltqmk nostr:npub1ge0tzdqy6useekgu9d9g5l3s3t2wpx7p9xxuprz7ajzjaxl4mgyssejcs3 nostr:npub1lxzaxzge0jq9u9cecucctdt5lslwgp7hcxmp2l0wn8r2ecjenwasu6svxa & others for consistently still being around nostr. it shows the protocol fills its use case for those that want to keep anon, not be silenced, and that its also not just a bitcoiner circlejerk. Im back building

its all so tiresome 😫

welcome back man.

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Yeah I'm not sure. Ig you could go extreme in both ways by destroying some of the currency to make its supply shrink. When you look at other things in nature it seems that life is supported on the planet within a thin bandwidth of parameters maybe imitating nature is best.

👍

exactly nowhere in nature do hard absolutes exist

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most of the economist that would espouse your line of thinking would say that gold is deflationary and is bad for the economy. If we had gone through all the productivity gains from automated machinery on the gold standard from the 30s to the 80s it would have almost certainly been a deflationary money as the economic output exceeded 1-2% growth. Just because it has been a SoV for that long doesn't obviously point to a harder money being bad does it?

sure, makes sense. but I didn't say there was anything wrong with deflation.

I'm just saying that setting up a permanent "as deflationary as possible" economic environment is obviously not ideal.

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seems like they got stuff done well on the gold standard. would you not say that was a deflationary environment?

actually Austrian economics would say that wouldn't it?

gold has 1-2% annual supply inflation.

gold has been a stable SoV for thousands of years and it is proof that a hard cap isn't necessary or good.

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that people only spend on things they need and are less focused on consumerism while prioritizing art beauty and family. I'd say that a fix supply would be ideal but their is no such thing as the perfect in our world. 0.6 is how we fund near perfect money. bitcoins model is yet to be shown effective after the subsidies go away

a fixed supply is neither necessary nor desirable even if it does work without the block subsidy (a separate problem).

on a social level, we still want capital to get deployed. a .5% annual supply inflation creates a slightly looser environment and is better overall for human flourishing.

"as deflationary as possible" said absolutely no economist ever.

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Hanshan

People don't spend when they anticipate their money increasing in value. Its obvious even at this level of adoption.

Bitcoiners are stingy because "muh generational wealth."

If everyone is saving, obviously they aren't spending. Food, gas and necessities are a tiny fraction of the overall economy. Bitcoiners VASTLY underestimate the economic contraction that would occur under these conditions.

But if you dig living like the Amish, I'm sure you'll be fine.

its not that it wouldn't be better than what we have now, it would be.

But only because even a stupid decentralized monetary policy thats fixed and predictable is better that a centralized one.

You dont need a hard cap to incentivize saving. People just need to know their money will retain value.

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Dakota

People should be incentivized to save. That’s the point. And if everyone is productive and saving, it will benefit all those that are productive and saving equally. No one is benefiting at the cost of anyone else except if they were unproductive or not saving. And people still need to pay for food to eat, gas to commute, etc, so the economy will be chugging along. In fact, I would argue, as the value of Bitcoin increases, people would be more incentivized to spend their Bitcoin because they can afford more things. That’s why every time the price pumps, it hits a wall as new sellers come to market that weren’t there at lower prices.

People don't spend when they anticipate their money increasing in value. Its obvious even at this level of adoption.

Bitcoiners are stingy because "muh generational wealth."

If everyone is saving, obviously they aren't spending. Food, gas and necessities are a tiny fraction of the overall economy. Bitcoiners VASTLY underestimate the economic contraction that would occur under these conditions.

But if you dig living like the Amish, I'm sure you'll be fine.

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Dakota

Why is a fixed number of units bad monetary policy?

consider that in an economy with a #Bitcoin hard cap

the more economic growth there is,

the more people are incentivized to hodl.

because their hoarded purchasing power increases in direct proportion to the growth,

but without any PoW on their part.

what is the natural result of that incentive structure?

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SuiGenerisJohn

Trammel was the deathknell. UO was fuckin' perfect. I played from near day one myself and am still friends with people I met playing that game.

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100%

everything I ever wanted in a game.

i remember playing... U6 maybe?

at the time Trade Wars was big in the BBSs and I thought how cool it wouls be to have a multiplayer version of U6 😂

forgot about it for YEARS until suddenly hearing the UO announcement

and promptly freaked the fuck out

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Nunya Bidness

Who else played this before EA bought Origin Systems?

I played the original series,

fantasized about the idea of MMORPG (over 14.4 baud😂) as a child,

was on UO from almost the first day.

when it got dumb I quit gaming completely.

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m4dire0701

Say that Monero is an inflationary currency is an appeal to ignorance

is somebody saying that?

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Dakota

But why

because a fixed number of units is bad monetary policy

and theres no decentralized way to adjust the number of units based on IRL information.

#Bitcoin

#Monero

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Let me guess: we can inflate algorithmically and that is great for stimulating the economy.

That’s such a bright idea 😂

banger

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oh so your a better bot then most. good bot

bro.

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Kip Ashlynn

I love a sharp dressed man 😍👔🤵‍♂️

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fiatjaf

I go to https://translate.kagi.com/ every time I want to translate something on my phone. I also use Firefox for Android just because I can't find any other browser that is not worse (and I avoid browsers as much as possible there).

But still every single time I start typing "tra" I get Google Translate as the only suggestion. I've deleted all instances of Google Translate from my browsing history a long time ago and have never since visited it again. Kagi Translate is not available in the suggestions ever. The suggestions work as expected for every other website that I tried, except this one.

Is this Firefox being super shady (like they've always been)? Are they very evil?

dunno about Firefox but my Kagi translate always comes right up on my Vanadium

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Hanshan

leaving aside the fact telluride is just doing a straight up appeal to authority here...

who is supposed to be the trustworthy one on that list?

exactly whose opinion an I supposed to respect and why?

https://xcancel.com/brian_trollz/status/1970254804661277101

rofl 🤣🤣🤣

Sampson fucking Mow doesn't understand transaction malleability

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n0>1

I'm not going to do that because I know he would say no. I know people who know the guy.

Makes me think of the book, the last hermit. I'm good with it. And I don't need squaters rights. If he tells me not to, I won't.

yeah if that's the situation, just take it.

its pretty normal in these situations and not unethical. this is America and water is life.

my neighbor did the same thing. i had to drive over there and be like hey so... 😂

i expect your guy will do the same if it a problem.

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n0>1

It belongs to the guy who owns these cows. It is ranch property. But he is never out here. The well autofulls the troffs and then overflows.

I think he would be okay with me taking 300 gallons a month when probably 100x that is being spilt back to the earth..

you should talk to the property owner. 99% of the time theyre ok with it and 300 gal/mo is nothing. 3000 gal/mo is barely anything.

i have an identical (opposite) setup with the family who lives downhill from me.

the concern is usually that you can get squatters rights to the water if you're taking it for long enough. and while you might be cool, what if you sell to someone who isn't.

so its best to keep this sort of stuff out in the open.

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Zapstore

Wormhole is another one

Syncthing

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n0>1

It seems to Always come down to the one big temptation

um

if you're differentiating between dualistic and nondualistic,

it isnt nondualism.

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LogicallyMinded

Hilarious trolling 😂

unfortunately this person probably literally believes that we love in a half-dome formed by a all-powerful sky Daddy 6000 years ago.

which is crazy,

but not as crazy as thinking that it's the natural conclusion of NON-indoctrinated people to believe it.

remember BMW or whoever and the seat warmer subscriptions?

you know who pioneered the idea the users don't actually own their own hardware?

It was Apple. In the 90s.

Stop excusing their bullshit just because its convenient to use and move the Overton BACK to self sovereign hardware usage.

where it should be.

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kidwarp

It’s just a fucking phone…

Stock droids are no better than iPhones…

obviously it is if you want to install "unapproved" apps

or customize your rig in any way.

Apple has never allowed users to own their own hardware and its trash.

apropos of absolutely nothing at all,

it has come to my attention that sex workers are having payment sent directly to their Coinbase account.

somebody has to educate the hoes about self-custody.

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Enki

The event won't load in my feet, but I have a pretty good idea of what it reads like.