What is the best way to increase fat in my carnivore lifestyle?
I have needed to give myself a 30 day reset, due to ongoing issues. I am doing beef only which is mostly ground beef and ribeye. I cannot tolerate dairy so butter is out.
I can feel the need for More fat but I am unable to come up with a way to do that. I already add beef tallow to the ground beef And right now I cannot use bacon fat.
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Top tier: Avocado, bacon, eggs fried or scrambled with lard. Include some RAW nuts and a few types of seeds like chia/flax/hemp.
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Be careful with the seeds. The Poly Unsaturated Fatty Acids in them cause major inflammation problems and the flax has phyto-estrogens which can mess with your hormones. Same with nuts. Macadamia nuts have the fewest PUFAs, but they are pricey.
Id agree There’s no real reason to add them to your diet.
Sorry just saw your no lard request but tallow is an easy swap
Roughly 40% of people who cannot tolerate cow milk are fine with goat milk. I am in the lucky 40% so I speak from experience that is is a real thing.
I just worked up the nerve to try this and got the good news. So excited to have my first cheeseburger in ages.
Tallow is ideal. But for some variety, perhaps try ghee, butter with milk solids removed little to no lactose and milk proteins. Non-ruminant animal fats will be too high in PUFA, pesticides, plastics, etc. Maybe coconut, high in saturated fat, low in PUFA.
I'd also be careful with carnivore. I was ketovore for probably 5 years. It messed up my gut because I wasn't feeding my good gut bacteria, gave me leaky gut, and made me sensitive to half the foods I was regularly eating. I loved it until I didn't. I've added back in more carbs and my gut is slowly healing, but I've been unable to eat a huge list of normally healthy foods for the past year+.
May I suggest homemade yogurt or keifer. Even lactose sensitive folks can usually eat it since the milk sugars are eaten by the lacto bacteria. Just a thought.
I also make kimchi. Theres a zillion variations if you’re like me and hate kimchi. Basically just letting something ferment in a brine. You can put whatever you want for flavor. Kimchi is just traditionally a certain way.
-Add some prebiotics like querciten to your diet.
According to a food sensitivity test, I can only have goat, buffalo, and camel milk (where in the world do you get buffalo or camel milk?). I read "Super Gut" and now make two varieties (fermented at different temperatures) of fermented goat milk with 5 or 6 different specific strains that have been proven to help the gut. I really enjoy it and it seems to be helping. Since it is fermented 36 hours instead of the normal 4 hours for commercial products, it has so much more live cultures than anything you can buy at the store. It doesn't require artificial thickeners in it because all of the cultures thicken it naturally.
That’s amazing. I make yogurt too!
Kiefer is easier since you can do it without heat. (Faster on counter but will ferment in refrigerator over a week or so)
Its also a different strain of bacteria.
In any event, good stuff.
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I also drink kefir. I want to start making my own, but at first it was too hot to order online and then it was too cold. I was too busy when we had moderate temperatures. One of these days ...
The store bought stuff is inert. Ive been fermenting for 20 years. You can test it (or yogurt) easily by trying to rebatch it. take a scoop and and put in fresh milk and leave on counter. You should see some fermentation over night and a lot in 24-36hrs.
Ive tested many Kiefer brands and I’ve bot come across one you can rebatch.
-Oh and don’t worry about the temp, just order some. The first few batches might be weak but you’re over thinking it.
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I typed kefir and meant kombucha
I have tried various diet trends over the years and finally came to conclusion that the needs of our bodies vary based on our ancestors. I started learning what foods my ancestors survived and thrived on and started developing my own diet around that. For the most part I just stay away from sugars in varying forms, grains and processed foods. I feel 100x better now and pay attention to what my body seems to be craving and address it.
describe that feeling of needing more fat
The idea and desire of eating a stick of butter is something I think about often through the day. Which is weird because I haven’t had butter in YEARS. When I eat my beef I am so stuffed. I can hardly eat the last few bites yet I am craving fatty things even though I am full
fascinating!
tried ghee?
fermenteds? kefir? buttermilk? kumis?
maybe not getting the energy out of what you are eating. acid? bugs? bile?
hypnosis? :)
Beef is some of the fattiest meat around, so I guess cook with lard?
If you were just doing a low carb diet, I'd say eat some nuts, but obviously those arn't made of meat, so that won't fit your diet.
It's odd that you can feel the need. Have you confirmed this using a scale? As in have you lost weight? If you were to consume mostly protein you would definitely lose wait in a process called rabbit starvation. If your weight is fine then maybe it's something else. Were you doing a specific diet before you went carnivore.
I have been carnivore for years. I have just completed day 7 of a 30 day challenge to do beef only. I have so many actual allergies and lots of food sensitivities it makes it tough. Everyone always seems to add cheese or butter for extra fat but I cannot. I’ll just try to eat more and add more tallow I guess. And yes I am down 8.5 pounds in this week
Ok that definitely sounds like an energy deficiency in that case. I suppose you ate some pork before as well where fat might be more plentiful. If you want to stick with pure beef (as in meat) there's still tri-tip that is very fatty and if you have a slow cooker you could go for some slow cooked brisket in beef stock.
Other things to consider is trying to see if you can get fatter beef like black angus or wagyu, though these might be a bit more expensive as well.
If you really need the fat consider clarified butter (ghee) like others already suggested. Most people with allergies (especially lactose) have no issue with ghee as it is 99.9% pure fat.
Then there's still raw milk which might suite you better than pasteurized as these still contain many of the micro organisms that will help break down things like lactose, but i would start really small.
In the end you should feel good and you should not force yourself into anything if it doesn't sit well with you. If that means adding back in things of what you ate before than that is ok.
Bone marrow
Can you tolerate coconut? I know that it's not carnivore but it's very fatty and delicious. I like fresh coconut and coconut butter.
If the only thing that you can truly eat is beef, then there's not much besides the tallow and marrow to get fat into your diet.
Bone broth
Have you tried raw butter if you can find it? Does all dairy cause issues, or more heavily pasteurized dairy?
Butter & tallow are all I use, so unfortunately no new suggestions for you.
I am actually going to try the raw dairy! I can make some butter and try it. I am definitely willing to try but I am also not super hopeful. I was just researching raw vs pasteurized a bit. I appreciate the encouragement!
There are a lot of people who believe they cannot handle butter, but it’s the homogenization and pasteurization that causes issues. If you cook out the bacteria you need to help digiest it, you’ll have issues 😁
Raw dairy may not be the answer, but worth a shot perhaps
Next week is my butter trial. I am excited, and of course, nervous
