bitcoin content can be good, but man i wish nostr had some more diversity.
don’t get me wrong, as a bitcoin luvr, i don’t mind seeing bitcoin related content, but a lot of what is posted is useless.
clients like olas are a great way to diversify the nostr ecosystem, i understand the hesitation by a lot of folks to want nostr to be hidden from the general public, but “normies” you hate, will bring a lot of good with them. even if you think the “normies” are awful…
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It's True, was thinking the same
Remember twitter IG had marketing fore power that grew them, not just organic magic. Until there is corporate investment to grow this and make profit able businesses, it will stay insider hobby club
We’re designing for normies, while trying to still honor the Nostr flavor. Spending/betting big on UX right out the gate.
based
we are to early, it's like being up on the moon and being annoyed that you are surrounded by astronauts talking about space and shit
zero correlation, but sure.
I agree. A like to see some Bitcoin content. Things like new products, services, businesses accepting Bitcoin etc but a lot of what is posted gets very repetitive..
I’m excited about Olas. I think it definitely brings something different to Nostr (as long as it doesn’t just get used for posting Bitcoin memes 🤣).
I’d say it’s a function of your follows… if you unfollow the 20% producing the 80% unwanted content in your feed, and follow more people that don’t post that, then it will make a significant impact on your feed.
Maybe you don’t want to do that but that’s still a choice you are making.
The other options are to mute words or invite people to Nostr that don’t talk about Bitcoin and socialize with them instead.
People simply won’t stop posting about their interests just because someone doesn’t like what they have to say about them.
I don’t always post about Bitcoin, but sometimes I do, and if someone doesn’t want to follow me because of that then I am content with that.
“useless” is totally subjective ;)
I don’t mind who comes here, it’s all about freedom to build your own clients, run your own relays, provide your own content. Anyone can talk and share anything. As usual it’s the visionaries who start these things. Bitcoin is synonymous with cutting edge so that’s who comes first. We’re early as usual 🤙
So early no one seems to read, like or comment on anything that anyone posts. Excellent…
Bliss 😂
Wow!!!
I answered you on your other note but here it is. The whole thing with Nostr is following / followers and relays. Your client is how you see it all.
To see notes you need to be using relays of the relevant people you like and the more people you follow and who follow you the more content you’ll see and be seen
You need to engage more and more often with a wide variety of people here
I added every relay. Every one on the list. Using Damus. Feels like an empty tumbleweed Twitter. No one responds to anything.
You’re only following 21 and only have 8 followers
Follow, interact, reply, post
Try this too - https://nostrplebs.com/
I hardly use follows. I mostly just look at global on nice relays, like wss://theforest.nostr1.com , or occasionally use my non-follows lists.
See, you know more than me. I’m just a toxic bitcoin Maxi tard happy reading about bitcoin so I’m the wrong one to ask. I love Nostr
Nostr is what you make of it.
You'd be surprised by so called normies, at least where I live. So many people are skeptical about the mainstream, and historically there is a distrust in the provinces of Madrid govt and an undercurrent of independence seekers.
Spain is quite big on bitcoin but not in the sticks. There are lots of alternative types doing their thing falling off the radar, even tried to introduce a local currency years ago. The missing link is lack of awareness of the "right tech".
To avoid tracking on social media locals trading between themselves are mostly stuck on WhatsApp private groups, and don't spend their lives studying bitcoin, so Nostr and zapping is not on their radar. But if and when they turn up on nostr, you should get some cool content and amazing variety of food and from resourceful people
, as it stands, though, Nostr has no appeal to 99% of normies pitching up for the revolution. It doesn't help that landing cold on a Nostr social app it is endless scrolling through zealous bitcoin bullshit. So I need to tell people, sign up anon and immediately search hashtags for your interests - and pray it is true that bitcoiners do have interests outside of fricking ngu and hating on monero :)
I agree. I’m trying to get the climbing community started on nostr, posting climbing content and finding other climbers that are already on here. Hopefully I’ll be able to get some climbing friends to join nostr as well soon.
I'd love to see climbing content. Do you have a list or hashtag?
Doesn't nostr:nprofile1qqs04xzt6ldm9qhs0ctw0t58kf4z57umjzmjg6jywu0seadwtqqc75spz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsz9mhwden5te0wfjkccte9ec8y6tdv9kzumn9wshszxnhwden5te0wpuhyctdd9jzuenfv96x5ctx9e3k7mf0dv4ph5 have a climbing npub?
Yes! nostr:npub18a5dah5p2jwvppz04ljj3u2hfdg7p908fy05dz7edz0cwaumhqwsqjpzjs I wish he posted more with that npub
I value the protocol, but still prefer X for content. It will only win in the long run if it offers both. Making Nostr accessible to broader audiences is imperative!
Guess it depends who you follow
a casual survey of my or my follows notes will reveal that this perception about bitcoin is based on the bias of algorithms being used by popular clients like primal
you wanna read about geomagnetic disasters, kidney disease, go programming? i'm your man
I also don't see that much Bitcoin stuff. I have a really great feed.
it's obviously something to do with our preferences in clients too... i know for sure #nostrudel and #coracle both don't seem to favor this whole "trending" nonsense
i think that people who aren't used to how it works just follow familiar names and then turn around and complain they are seeing the same stuff as they saw from them on xitter
🤦♂️ really, here's my surprised face 🤪
Yeah, if you just onboard to a client without trending or recommended follows, but with some quality relays, you start off with a good feed and just expand from there.
Hey, by ze way, can I write 30040s to your newfangled relay? I have a little test book I'm writing on different relays, to test out if they accept the events from Silberengel and to make sure Alexandria can eventually display their content.
Wheat worked, so did Citrine, all of the strfry relays I've tried (except 🍷), nostr-rs-relay, etc.
nostr:nprofile1qqsrmpp2lmx4u2fl9zmxy7fnwp9rlwxwz5a2j8tep2c376n494z2gtg4wc9yf can nostr.wine allow the curated publications?
should be fine, 30k numbers are parameterized replaceable, so if a version with bigger timestamp and matching d tag (it's d tag, i think? or is it a) will replace the old version
only caveat is wss://mleku.realy.lol requires auth
Sounds good.
Can my nostr:nprofile1qqs06gywary09qmcp2249ztwfq3ue8wxhl2yyp3c39thzp55plvj0sgprdmhxue69uhhg6r9vehhyetnwshxummnw3erztnrdakj7qguwaehxw309a6xsetrd96xzer9dshxummnw3erztnrdakj7qgmwaehxw309amksetpwshxsctswpuhgctkv4exutnrduhsw0qlr4 npub be whitelisted?
i added that one as a follow, that should do it... if you followed it with yours it would also be automatically whitelisted... assuming you'd published your follow list to the relay
is nice to have people testing it, let's see if it werks
oh i forgot i wasn't following any of your profiles lol... well, yeah anyway, to explain, anyone who is followed by someone i am following is whitelisted, as well as my follows, it's a primitive web of trust based whitelist, based on the idea that paid users would want to allow their follows to also post and especially DM on the same relay
You are the case in point of a dev with an array of other interests. Hey @Primal, stop it with the Bitcoin bias already! We get it, Nostr is for Bitcoin And...
agreed.
at some point i hope the conversation extends beyond what kind of money someone uses.
I like Nostr , Damus , Primal and recently testing Olas .since this is kind a new thing , social media using Nostr protocols so things went like I expected , relay connection slow , take a long to upload videos , sometimes a bit laggy , features missing and so on . Just like I expected .
I don’t think we hate normies.
Well, I for once post notes that are mostly non bitcoin related.
Still you have to admit that bitcoin relates to almost everything that is moral and ethic.
oh brother
I really need to step up my game and post more music and guitar related content. See you soon! 💜
Just post whatever the fuck you want and ignore the haters' noise.
Indeed. We should bring more normies not yet bitcoiners to Nostr. I believe that the fact that they are not here makes non bitcoiner accounts almost invisible.
Have the guts to talk about things that aren't comfortable. Growing requires challenging.
How are you contributing to the solution of the problem you are perceiving?
I feel like bitcoiners are the beta testers for all this. The Nostr experience isn’t as smooth as the centralised experience.
Normies don’t care about the values that brought us bitcoiners here but eventually once the experience is as smooth as they are use to they will start migrating over at increasingly faster rates.
It will only take a few big celebs such as Joe Rogan for example to start using it drastically start increasing the normie user accounts.
A lot of folks on here will talk about echo chambers on the internet but the fact of the matter is that right now Nostr is a very tight echo chamber, at least for the time being but hopefully not for long.
With how it is now, though, i can't see many others having any appeal for a platform like this. It's much easier to use Twitter, all their friends are there, and it does everything they need it to do.
At this point in time, Nostr offers nothing that the average everyday person needs or even wants for a social media platform and hopefully that can change soon.
No matter how much Youtube/twitter/twitch/whatever restricts speech and pushes ads, people will continue to use it because that's where all the money is and that's where their favorite content creators are.
Yes, same
I came here not because of the bitcoin but because clearly Elon’s X is not free speech and is becoming more restricted each day. I left facebook 6 years ago, I don’t use Tiktok, IG, Snapchat none of it. But I hope I can bring some of this diversity you speak of and I hope I can continue speaking on the things I’m passionate about.
You could almost say that scrolling through a NOSTR feed is like looking at all the transactions on the Bitcoin blockchain. Now your comment makes sense. No algorithm isn't the goal, but the one you choose. What are you filtering for? What value are you looking for? The other "corporate" networks tell you what is valuable... Like having parents who tell you what you should read and listen to. Now you get to choose, but this boring part, is great, as it is a pause in social media to ask, what is important to you.
