People are all up in arms over this Tucker-Putin interview.
I’m all for free journalism but I am also busy this week. For people who have seen it, is it worth spending two hours to watch it or does Tucker get cucked by Putin the whole time?
Discussion
No
lol
You should so we won’t have to because you’ll write a great note about it afterwards
I was hoping to hear your take instead of watching it myself
I was at a party in South America tonight and this thing comes out and people are emailing me like I’m supposed to have a take already.
My guess is Tucker lets Putin ramble and never asks him about jailing journalists or poisoning political opponents. But I haven’t had a moment to watch it yet.
Same
Putin talking about Russian history and how the US and Europe stabbed him in the back over and over. Snooze fest.
I’ve watched 75% of it (finish it tomorrow) and I think it’s worth it because it validates what I thought was going on. Russia is not what our leaders want us to believe it is. If you watch it and come to a different conclusion please disagree with me as I’m open to a different interpretation. Btw love your book and your content
Well of course our power hungry psychopaths misrepresent their power hungry psychopaths. At the end of the day though, he is still a power hungry psychopath.
Lester, you're as easily cucked as Tucker is, although he profits from his treasonous behavior.
You believe interviewing foreign heads of state to be treason? What?
facilitating propaganda for a hostile foreign state surely is
Oh that's right, interviews/discussions are propaganda now. I forgot.
Oh, you think that if you call it an 'interview' it's not propaganda what the interviewee says? Go interview a child molester and let him/her/it speak freely about his view on consent age, etc.
😂 he's not some random criminal, he's the leader of an extremely geopolitically significant country. What he says and thinks has *literal* consequences for all of us. We have two options - put ourselves in a bubble and just trust what the government/media filters down to us or we can get the message first hand. We aren't children... We can smell bullshit. We can form our own opinions. I don't trust the government or the media to equip me with the information I need.
15 mins in and im bored out of my mind
not worth it
It gets better after that, but it's still kinda boring
idk why I expected to be entertained.. that’s my fault
It's funny when Putin accuses Tucker of blowing up the pipeline himself 😂
damn, ok I guess I’ll go back for that 🤣 you got the timestamp ?
He didn’t actually accuse him but it was funny. Tucker asks who blew it up and Putin says “you did”, obviously meaning the US/NATO, and Tucker goes “I didn’t blow it up, I was busy that day”. Putin has a good chuckle and says “you may have an alibi but the CIA doesn’t”.
The CIA when they watch it: 
Somebody will 10 - 20 minutes supercut it I hope.
it's a must watch.
who knows what the absolute truth about anything in the world is but it's always good to hear many perspectives and go from there
I actually enjoyed it, depends on what you expect.
I watched without any expectations from either party.
Putin talks lots of history, leaves out some parts - some truth said, some misleading things said. He tries to make it sound like he has never done anything wrong. There are some interesting parts when he talks about times he’s met with US presidents and intel agencies but it’s hard to tell whether the conversations he recounts are true or not.
The part you’d probably find most interesting is when he talks about how the US imposing economic sanctions is actually bad for the USD and leading to more international trade settled in yuan.
Tucker ends it by asking Putin to free Evan Gershkovich, which was honorable.
Yeah I don’t think he’s got much to gain from lying about anything.
He doesn’t seem like the type of person that cares what others think of him, so I feel he is honest in what he is saying about intel.
This is just from my opinion looking at it from not living in USA or Europe.
I'll watch simply because so many people are up in arms over it. I think the story the West tells is incomplete. Just like I bet the story Putin tells is incomplete. Somewhere in the lies is a truth.
It's like a dumbed down version of the speech Putin gave to the St. Petersburg Forum. If you've watched that speech already no need to waste time with the Tucker interview. I think it's aimed at a less informed audience. I.e. using dubbing instead of subtitles.
When government starts to default, you see psyops like this.
Boring authoritarian bullshit. Even the maga bootlickers won't ve able to convince themselves that shit made sense. It is actually a great thing this guy II being revealed for what he truly is.
They don't call him Tuck the cuck for nothing; the very premise of the interview is a kind of cultural and intellectual cuckoldry.
It starts with a 30 minute history lesson from Putin. I’m not sure if you’ll learn anything new that is useful really, but Putin’s perspective is actually kind of interesting from a sort of bird’s eye view. And Tucker doesn’t do a terrible job with it either, imo. Maybe missed some harder hitting conversation and directions he may ought to have gone down, but hard to say what boundary one ought to push in that situation.
It’s probably worth a listen, but I’d probably do it while you were getting something else done that didn’t require your full attention.
I saw a. Few clips reading the replies here might be a spoiler if you actually want to watch it.
He does cuck Tucker pretty hard.
Imo watch it when you have time for it. It's not breaking news but still worth it.
not really cucked, just boring
feel like boring should fall into the cucked category here 😂
Two hours?! That’s a big tall glass of nope from me.
Putin is very long-winded and if Tucker interrupts with a question, Putin ignores it and continues where he left off. And he didn't say anything new or interesting.
Like him mentioning the US national debt, dollar failing etc
Putin has the ability to form complete sentences without falling asleep. Tucker looks very nervous.
What amount of time is worth giving to an authoritarian murderer and liar?
So don't listen to any politicians at all?
I can certainly do that.
Very interesting and worth the 2 hours of your time. But it was much a less an interview than a history lesson/speech by Putin.
Any western interview involves that person getting cucked by Putin. Any Russian outside Russia fucking hates Putin. Not like the west is so great, You won’t hear me towing the party line, But Russia has a literal “Theatre Politic”. Propaganda on all sides right now.
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I want to you if he come back or fall from a window, those things are really dangerous in Rusia.
worth it, I listened two times, very educational
Putin has a clarity of perspective that, while obviously biased to reflect well on his own actions, enables him to describe the actions of all parties involved. Tucker encourages this throughout the interview. It is helpful if you are unfamiliar with the perspective of the Russian state. The more interesting parts of the interview occur later, around halfway, when Putin is describing recent developments in the global political situation. Throughout the interview he describes the actions taken by the US and Germany in a way that is calculated to undermine domestic support of those policies in those countries. He also repeatedly encourages Tucker to check his version of events with the US officials involved.
Putin comes across as, given a realpolitik perspective, a competent leader that can make his case simultaneously to both a foreign and domestic audience. The case is not new, though it likely will be to many that watch the interview.
The portrayal of Putin as a madman in the West will now likely backfire. The contrast is damning.
If you wanted Tucker to berate him, you’ll be disappointed. Otherwise, the interview was done well.
I hate that this has to be said, but it is possible to think all of this and not support Russia’s war in Ukraine or Putin in general. What you want and what is should be kept separate when attempting to understand reality.
A fair and reasoned appraisal. I echo much of this. What this interview shows is that Russia has a far more competent leader than anyone in the West. He is not a madman. Calculated, definitely. He truly believes in the Russian cause and, I for one believehism when he talks of being open to talks. Unfortunately it takes two to tango.
If the West wants to prove him a liar, call for a ceasefire and talks. Unfortunately we in the West have already reneged on a signed agreement.
I pray for peace, not more weapons
Fuck politicians
it depends what is your goal. As a person who have been listening to Putin 20 years I'd say no. If your goal is to understand him learn facts and stories. not his words. there are lots of them - Chechnya war, Magnitsky, Nemtsov and so on.
Yes. Free speech is always worth. Whether you agree or not with the content. Apparently lady Clinton prefers censorship e propaganda ministries.
#liberty #freedom #libertarian #mises #rothbard
You risk losing solid 20 IQ points by watching it, so be careful.
Yes but itll be nice to pay some student to watch and make 500 words essay about it where historical facts are check.
I watched it it’s kinda hard to listen due putin is dubbed
I watched 20 minutes. this "historical part" of the interview is such a shame. "Lenin created Ukraine." God, don't embarrass yourself by calling Putin sane ) I don't know, ask a historian you know who understands European history to comment on this part of the interview.
I believe it’s worth the 2 hours.
If you watch it, make sure you have your bullshit detector tuned properly.
would u like a "transcription, summary and cutting of the video based on your selection of areas" tool
There are timestamps on Tuckers Website.
I think some parts are worth watching.
Certainly worth it. Many conclusions to draw from it not the least of which is we’ve been starved of this kind of journalism for far too long.
Extraordinary interview, not more than 10 min TC speaking, and he got all the essential and smart questions
I downloaded the audio and listen to it while driving.
my 2 takeaways:
- the idea is not watching to check whether Putin is gaslighting the audience or not, you're watching to gauge to understand the vision of an important world leader and to understand how cognizant he is.
- Putin seems to let the door open for a negociated peace. It's unclear if that's sincere but people in the West might question a bit more whether their govs are really trying to end the conflict.
> their govs are really trying to end the conflict
how west gov can end this conflict?
I'm no expert but I'd imagine that either they go all-in with a trillion USD to win the war or they stop sending weapons and sit at the table. There's no use sitting between chairs.
ok. west stops sending weapons. why would russia stop war in this case? when war started Ukraine fought for first 3-4 months without any supply from the west. btw putin said in interview that goals are not reached yet.
so next question - when putin started this war he hoped that ukraine will not get any help and he will occupy Kyiv quickly. then he failed. so - why suddenly when ukraine don't have weapons he would stop invasion and what his goals in the first place?
this is certainly a fair take. I don't have a good answer apart that maybe if 60% of Russian forces are eliminated, Putin really sees an interest in ending this war rapidly as long as he can paint it as a victory internally. But I agree this might be wishful thinking after witnessing how obsessed he is with his version of history.
He always can paint a victory, at any moment. Even if he withdraw all forces from Ukraine he can declare a victory.
I'm not sure he wants to end this conflict. Ukraine is not allowed to use western weapons on rusia territory. so putin is in no personal danger. So the war can continue as long as there is cannon fodder.
Probably he may wants some pause for recovery,
BTW he already outlined the terms of the truce. Ukraine is giving up territory that's already occupied. That's 20%. We're not going to do that.
money. US spent on Ukraine 113 billions in 2022-2023. US military budget - $842 billion in year 2024. so 1/8 for destroying russia military capabilities. current estimate - russia lost 60% of their military forces.
when US give money to ukraine it is not give money. in fact US give ukraine equipment, and money goes to US military-industrial complex to replenish reserves. sometimes US give Ukraine weapons that have already been decommissioned.
all I said you can find in public sources.
Today I see this new analysis revealing what Russian intelligence services have discovered by looking at weapons delivery to Ukraine from European countries. The bottom line is:
a) at the current speed of weapons production, we could only deliver sufficient weapons to Ukraine by 2025!
b) at the speed we are giving away our stockpile, we'll need 15 years to resupply!
Obviously this is coming from Russian intelligence and should be taken with a grain of salt. Nevertheless, it seems directionnally correct. This is a serious counterweight to the idea that this war is depleting only Russian forces. It is depleting supplies on both sides but Russia has probably prepared itself much better since 2014.
> Obviously this is coming from Russian intelligence and should be taken with a grain of salt.
Yes.
European economy ~ 16 trillion, US economy ~25 trillion
Russia economy ~ 1.5 trillion
That is the answer. 40:1. Ukraine's allies simply don't have a strong desire to win.
Skip past the first 30 minutes unless you’re genuinely interested in 1000 years of history of Russia. Other than that it’s definitely worth watching.
I had to get in nostr because I noticed you weren’t tweeting and I wanted to make sure you were still alive ☺️
Putin is the worst human on the planet. Tucker seems to lack redeeming qualities and definitely has an obnoxious voice. I won't watch.
Around an hour in:
Before Russian sanctions in 2022:
80% of Russian global trade was transacted in USD (50%) and EUR (30%).
It is now 35% in rubles, 35% Yuan and 13% USD/EUR.
More countries (especially non-G7) are cutting back on both dollar reserves and transacting in USD.
I put it on 2x playback so it took one hour. I believe the highlights can be found a bit all over! But Putin’s confidence during the interview strikes deep when compared to other western leaders
Worth watching, Tucker definitely gets dominated, and Putin is clearly the superior intellect… but I mean the man is sitting in a gangster’s house totally vulnerable so not sure how many people would do that much better. He gets a few decent questions in but wish it was someone smarter than Tucker who could make more nuanced arguments (especially about economics) and have a historical and cultural dialog instead of being lectured while trying cheap attempts at “gotcha”ing with his habits developed at Fox (which Putin sidesteps calmly every. single. time.). IMO still worth it though to learn about Putin’s stated motives and really understand that we are dealing with a smart, stubborn(principled?) gangster so maybe we think twice before electing a warmongering geriatric or a reality tv show host to represent our side.
…Oh and I’m sure this community would appreciate your take on what was presented by Putin 😉
It is a long winded history lesson from Putin’s point of view, whatever that’s worth. He played Tucker like a fiddle.
I wonder if Tucker steelmanned his arguments for going there.
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