To all the people in the comments saying I’m being

- overly emotional

- divisive

- jumping to conclusions

The fact that I’ve been vulnerable enough to show emotion the last few days does not take away from my objectivity.

I still sift and discard information I don’t think is true. I am happy to be corrected, and I will admit when wrong, but I’m not going to cower from speaking the truth.

What i said below is true.

If you can’t see that now it will become more evident to you in the days and weeks ahead.

You won’t owe me anything when that happens, but I hope you can shy away from the comfort of delusion and admit it to yourself.

Because the truth is paramount.

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Fuck’em

Keep doing you like always!

I subscribe to your way of thaught and emotion⚡️🤘🏼

Thank God for your courage! On display - day in - day out 🙏💜

The truth is your sword and shield. Keep being a warrior for the truth.

You are 100% correct. There will always be those that don’t live reality and believe what they want to believe.

Respect you & this community on many levels..but the Left-vs-Right battle is a divide/concure tactic.

We the people are all one, & our enemy is not one another..it's levels above the common man.

We all have the same basic needs & wants.

The people who would cheer for my death are not my people. I seek no unity with them.

Weird how you frame this like we're the ones that started it.

I would cheer for your death because you've shown you would cheer for mine, before I ever felt like cheering for yours.

And will you reply to this in a first step towards proving me wrong? No. I'm not wrong. You will probably not respond. You will probably not even look outside your echo chamber at this reply from someone you've abused and muted.

No one wants you dead retard. You are getting played by the media.

Exactly this is dangerous rhetoric that the establishment wants. They don’t unification bc that’s the only path to destroy evil.

Don't care what people will say

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Left is still pushing the narrative that the killer was a conservative. The left lives in delusion and its kind of dangerous. The blood is definitely on their hands and some are happy about that fact and own it. Sad times.

They’re pushing that not because they are delusional but because they are malicious. The people swallowing it unquestionably are the delusional ones.

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What's your source? All I'm seeing is he was further Right than CK

What's your source? All I'm seeing is he was further Right than CK

Estoy contigo hodl 👍

He defended his beliefs peacefully.

And they killed him for it.

Charlie was the moderate position.

The next wave of activists on the right will not be as moderate, that time has ended.

You need to be these things, to anyone with eyes to see and ears to hear, the left has finally changed fundamentally in this country.

Politics is down stream of culture so the politicians themselves are still very much resembling the old school radical left of the 1990-2010. When the norm was champagne socialist types and nepo babies who are just rebelling against daddy and his wealth.

The voters and activists themselves no longer resemble that mentality at all…they are true blue believers in communism and socialism. Which is why we are seeing them get more violent as time goes on. It isn’t a sign of the left losing, it is a sign that they have never felt more emboldened. Right now is the time of choosing and the inflection point of where this country goes. Because they will use violence and attempt to send us into a cultural revolution as part of the 4th turning crisis that we must overcome.

Look at the backlash from Charlie Kirk vs George Floyd.

From someone who never watched any Charlie Kirk stuff, this has made it VERY clear to me who the sane ones are.

I was expecting chaos when I heard Charlie Kirk was assassinated, but all there was were prayers.

Im impartial, but I know which side I would rather be on.

The left have lost their fucking minds. How can they expect to be taken seriously when they think men can give birth😂?

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Not that it matters but this just made me hit the follow button. I'm looking forward. 🤝

I don’t celebrate his end but i don’t also shed tears for him. He was a human and should not got the end he got.

5 stages of grief

- Denial

- Anger

- Bargaining

- Depression

- Acceptance

Most are still at stage 1 or 2. They’ll get there

The people saying those things are the real reason we’re in this mess.

In life, “you get what you tolerate”

People like to blame the Jews and the blacks and all that for our problems - and YES, while it’s very true that Jews coordinate most of this shit in the background and blacks commit the most crime - the REAL enemy is inside the gates.

The real enemy are those that want to remain complacent and continually “do nothing” when their people are being murdered in front of their eyes

They will sit there and make some moral justification for their lack of rage, but all it does is make more clear how pathetic and weak they really are

Keep going nostr:nprofile1qqsp4lsvwn3aw7zwh2f6tcl6249xa6cpj2x3yuu6azaysvncdqywxmgpvemhxue69uhkv6tvw3jhytnwdaehgu3wwa5kuef0dec82c33wf6xcutrvyu8ydnpw4ukzae4dc6ksvmvx56ryvnyd568xunex4j85en9v56rvwfkveck2wrnxeckwatyddenwer2w3n8x0mzwfhkzerrv9ehg0t5wf6k2qgcwaehxw309aex2mrp0yh8xmn0wf6zuum0vd5kzmq6hyw09

You won some respect yesterday night for call out Jack.

Keep pushing

It's true, the left has become the party of "shut up and comply or we'll kill you."

Yep

When ppl show you who they are, believe them! As one guy said one time, “speak truth to power”

I don’t know you well HODL but I see that you have a nice life and are authentic in your wrestling with the challenges of life. You are a support to other young men & women wrestling with very similar curve balls this world throws. I would encourage you not to fall into the cesspool of partisan extremist politics. Please clean out your social’s feeds and touch grass. Take your family on a vacation. Grab a copy of The Brothers Karamazov and decide for yourself whether you’ll choose the way of man or the way of grace.

Those itching for a civil war have no idea the common misery they are asking for. Our global adversaries are working overtime to drive a wedge between us all and for us to destroy ourselves from within.

Killing others is not the answer. Do you honestly think that Jesus would be advocating for retribution? How did he respond to Satan during his temptation?

You’re projecting a lot of things onto me that I never said. Obviously I don’t believe in retributive violence or extreme partisanship. Nor am I calling for a civil war or anything of the sort.

“So it is not surprising if his servants also masquerade as ministers of righteousness. [But] their end will correspond with their deeds.”

‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭11‬:‭15‬ ‭AMPC‬‬

truth is paramount

Damn this platform is becoming like X with the division. The only way to defeat evil is thru unification.

Every platform will with enough users. Even among bitcoiners Nostr has divided with the op_return bullshit. People can blame the algo's on Twitter all day long but in the end it's the users that are at responsible for their behaviour.

So the “friend” who was the only public source to claim he was a leftist, has now been retracted.

Discord also said the rumor about leftist groups/messages on Discord were not true.

The DSA shirt picture was proven to be not him.

The DSA rally speaker was (clearly) not him and proven to be someone else.

Let’s grow the hell up, and start actually addressing these issues so we can have a safer country, rather than trying to do mental gymnastics bs.

Cause the reality is, 22 year old white male Christian Mormon, at a trade school, in rural Utah, who is a gun enthusiast, wears a Trump costume and is in a MAGA family, owns a Mauser, wears a wounded veterans America flag t shirt, and calls people “gay” as an insult - is not going to be a “leftist”

He grew up on a pipeline of Fox News and gun shows, was clearly mentally unwell and indoctrinated, and did something heinous.

If you actually wanted to *honor* Kirk, like many of MAGA say they do, then address the damn issues that led to this, instead of trying to scapegoat and use his death as a pawn in entirely unrelated political agendas.

If you believe everything on the news you are part of the problem.

You probably believe the trump assasination attempts to be real as well. Research squibs. It’s prettty obvious.

truth, by it's very nature is divisive and unity is not better than truth

100% facts

We’re with you Hodl ✊🏻

That’s why I said before emotions are good, and it’s natural to have them, but they need to be in check and not run rampant.

What you said in that post wasn’t “truth” at the time of writing, it was your opinion, which you’re fully entitled to, but it wasn’t based on evidence. It was based on hearsay and emotion. Maybe evidence will surface that implicates the whole left in Charlie’s death, but until then, it isn’t truth. If that evidence does appear, I’ll be the first to acknowledge it.

To put it another way: I could copy-paste your post, swap “left” for “right” and “Charlie” for a recently shot left-leaning politician, and claim “the right is responsible.” That would be just as unfounded, even though statistics show that most politically motivated killings in the U.S. in recent years were committed by right-wing extremists.

Truth is paramount but letting emotions drive conclusions works directly against finding the truth.

It's not "left" or "right", it's extremists and mentally ill people.

I’m speculating here but you sound like the kind of person who would have said this about Covid lockdowns. We didn’t/couldn’t know the truth at the time, only in retrospect was it clear. Is that something you might have said? Or am I off base?

I always want evidence before i do something important.

To paint a small picture about me. We can start with Covid as you mentioned it. I did not get vaccinated when vaccine first came out. When some reasonable serious data came out and i was "ok, i'm ok with taking it", i already got covid 3 times (3 different strains, first strain was 3rd big mutation....as we called it than "UK mutation") and i had zero reasons to do it after that. When i got first one, i was really fucked up, it was Flue++. I lost my sens of taste for 2 months (which turned out to be worst of it all). After all that, i had natural defense and mutations were getting less and less aggressive so i had no reason to take vaccine no matter what data said.

As far as lockdowns go, yes i supported them in that short time we had no idea what's going on. Big reason for that is that i live near Italy where shitload of people died at start of it all. Some people i knew personally. Once covid mutated first time, i changed my mind as situation has changed and after that moment i was against lockdowns. I still stand behind my original stance and after my changed. I pride myself to be someone who can change his mind when situation changes.

Most of countries did not shut them down as fast as they should have. My country included and i basically started to ignore it. Simply went where i wanted and did what i usually did, with extra care for others. If i was sick, i wore mask. Not for my protection but to minimize exposure of others to my viruse or bacteria, whatever it was.

I am kind of person that skips on making big decisions and strong opinions without good reason. Saying: "i amnot sure i will make my mind later" is something i pride myself with.

That said, someones personal opinion, here say, feelings etc. is not good reason, at least for me and that is all we have as far as Charlies shooter goes. Once we get more data i will change my mind on him. But i don't see posibility that "left" is responsiible in any way, shape or form, as "left" is simply term that describes way too large group that simply can not be responsible.

Imagine this. I look at this video:

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And i say: "Right want's go kill innocent helpless people". Not one guy on Fox....no...Right. You included (if you are "right"). Cmon now....really? Is that correct way to communicate? Is that objective? You are better than this.

Thank you for answering honestly.

There’s a lot of nuance you seem to lack about the context of American politics as a Brit.

Leftist and left wing are different things here.

Leftist = far left extremist

Are you talking about the 12 lefties on nostr or leftie america?

Leftists in America

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was extra funny for having just read what Queen JK had said 🤭

What confuses many of us is why you always discard facts on Israel, whether true or not.

People in general who try to avoid politics - especially here on Nostr is one of the reasons I love it here.

Unfortunately - and eventually if you don’t care about politics - doesn’t mean Politics doesn’t care about you.

It will affect your life for good or bad. Most cases bad.

It takes great courage to speak up and stand your ground knowing you will be attacked.

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THANK YOU AND KEEP IT UP. Many here are cheering for you! 🫡

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Public executions are not assassinations.

Shut the fuck up.

“When people stop talking, that’s when you get violence. That’s when civil war happens.”

-Charlie Kirk

Sure MAGAts just want to talk. That shit might work with your brainwashed buddies. But I’m not one.

Are you advocation for political violence then?

You have to be bot . You make no sense. Or you don’t speak English.

Wrong on both accounts.

In your post you are saying that Charlie is responsible for his own death.

First that is absolutely disgusting.

Second, that implies that he deserved to die because he had different opinions than yours.

Are you endorsing this behavior or will you condemn it as it should be.

Your own guy killed him. Did the bullets have an inscription on them?

Yup. Public executions of the right criminals would go a long way to restoring faith in our system. The alternative option is pretty wild (decades in prison, millions in costs to taxpayers etc).

Public executions would be healthy when done to the right people. Imagine the guy who killed Iryna on the subway a few days ago. Society seeing him brought to justice brought swiftly and publicly would be cathartic and a strong move in restoring faith in our systems. The alternative is 20 years in the prison systems, funded by millions of dollars of tax payer money, only to be lethally injected and few hear about it.

1: does the propaganda have you so confused that you think people are going to disagree that the guy that killed that poor young girl shouldn’t be punished.

2: if you allowed people to watch somebody’s life being taken and they voluntarily watch it. You are sick.

3: if you feel that way, how about you release the pictures of all the children torn apart by gun violence. Maybe that would change people’s opinion on it. Don’t you agree?

HELLO))))))). HELLO)))))))

Somehow I think he meant after a trial, but nice try given the little you have to work with.

That’s funny. Go find the clip where he says “no need for due process “

This is absolutely true

This isn’t politics anymore. It’s a death cult masquerading as a movement.

nostr:npub1rtlqca8r6auyaw5n5h3l5422dm4sry5dzfee4696fqe8s6qgudks7djtfs the people in the comments are saying this not to fight with you, but because they know you’re one of the best we’ve got, and we don’t want to lose you to the political whirlpool that seems to suck in everything good.

In the last few days, your posts have used the term “leftist” far more than ever before, and specifically I think you are referring to “left extremists”, which you outline in one of your posts, but for most, I don’t think this is obvious. The term “leftist” is NOT universally accepted to mean an extremist on the left. For most people, it just means that they have more liberal leaning political views. That is the dictionary definition of a “leftist”. So when moderate liberals who are a fan of you and your work read your posts and are moved to comment that you are being divisive, I think it’s because they feel like you’re lumping them into this category.

I think it’s a really good thing for Trey to step in because he can be a foil to you in some ways, to rally the Nostr-left around productive, unifying perspectives.

In this particular case the person who died aligns strongly with your personal choices and values as a father, Christian, American, etc. and that is something that I can respect deeply on a personal level. But I think that the outcry from your followers on Noster is due to the fact that you have been such a leader in a bigger mission that unifies a diverse group of perspectives. Of course it is your choice if you want to use your platform to switch your focus, but I think I speak for many of us who hope that you’ll keep pushing in a direction that focuses on these universal truths and rights that we as Americans believe in that bridge the gaps between left and right: personal freedoms, and sovereignty.

You and I undoubtedly disagree on a lot of personal issues, but I respect your perspective and I am grateful for your championing of these universal rights that can unite people of all viewpoints.

In America leftist is synonymous with communist and American liberals know or should know that I am not talking about them when I say “leftist”.

I just think all these terms get thrown around haphazardly by most people. Right wing politicians would love to blur the lines between Leftist and left-ish. So even though you might be using it in a more technical way, I just don’t think that’s how it’s always perceived, especially for those who aren’t actually that involved in politics, and don’t really know the difference. You can take this advice or leave it, but I think you’d get less pushback if you subbed “leftist” for “left extremist” or something like that.

Left extremist pushes it too far to the fringe this is a mainstream left problem. A large portion of the left now believes that right wing speech is violence and left wing violence is speech.

Like I said, take it or leave it, but “left” vs. “leftist” is being lost on most people in the exchanges that I’m reading here on Nostr, regardless of what they “should” know. I just think that in these charged conversations, nuance is often lost. Gotta keep it at a 3rd grade reading level, and “leftist” as a technical term ain’t it

Fair enough. I hear you on that.

people intentionally misunderstanding you is not your problem

Indeed!!!!

Agreed, and I certainly see plenty of that from some people here, but I also see plenty of people engaging in good faith, who are misunderstanding the intent whether because they genuinely don’t understand (see point about 3rd grade reading level) or because they are bringing a bias into the conversation. Maybe you’re not going to change many minds that are already biased in one direction, but you can certainly avoid pushing away those who don’t understand. And the optimist in me wants to believe that with the right message you might even find common ground with a few of the biased participants who are genuinely open to hearing other perspectives.

can’t imagine why… 😅 thanks for engaging with the community and making this a place more than an echo chamber

Set up your wallet btw I can’t zap you

Yes. That’s the problem on the “left” and those who haven’t run to the other side are know deemed “far - right” with the media so disproportionately on one side - it’s refreshing to see moderates like nostr:npub1rtlqca8r6auyaw5n5h3l5422dm4sry5dzfee4696fqe8s6qgudks7djtfs championing the TRUTH - that is not a blurred line it’s a fact.

Man, a week ago I publicly redefined Evil as "that which seeks to deny humans their innate divinity". I still hold that definition because it guides me in identifying Evil as I encounter it.

What happened to Charlie was Evil. Not because he was murdered, or because he was pure, but because of the intention behind it.

They want us suppressed, to prevent us from reaching our full potential as humans. They want to keep us fearing & fighting each other. To keep us feeling seperate. From this place, they can continue to control us by playing both sides of whatever division that they manage to create.

You said it well when you said there's no division been decent humans. I believe that most humans are decent at heart which is why I had to redefine Evil into something meaningful.

How do we rid the world of Evil. You call it out when you see it, you nip it in the bud before it festers & spreads. Evil doesn't walk among us, it grows from our fears & distrust of each other. It's seed resides in the gut of every man just waiting for fear to germinate & feed it.

thats why fbi states that it was a christian republican from utah, fuckin leftist christian republicans

(not like we should believe anything they say)

Epstein files where? i swear that some leftist christian republican stole it or smt....smh