I will be participating in exactly zero stupid fucking wars between Israel and the lunatic warmongering US govt and whatever country they think is convenient to obliterate so they can install a āpro westā tyrant.
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Bitcoin is the only path to peace. Defund the military industrial complex
Broā¦.. just one more war bro. The war to end all wars, broā¦.
Unfortunately, if you pay taxes to the US Government or hold any amount of dollars you participate by default.
I agree with your statement but money printer go Brrrrrrrrrrrr for the war machine.
The whole world uses dollars. And Iām on a Bitcoin standard so Iām about as removed as I can be.
The whole world doesnāt pay taxes to the IRS or is involved in the political process that put people in place that voted for these. There were wars under a gold standard and there will be war under a bitcoin standard. Bitcoin is part of the solution, but we also need a political solution to the subversion of out political institutions by foreign governments
The stupid fucking wars are getting ridiculous!..šš¤
At some point everybody realises that WE are the Evil Empire. Itās what we do next that counts.
Fuck the zionists and fuck the US War machine. You all are gonna go broke proping up that terrorists state
Any thoughts on leaving the US some day? Iām torn as I donāt want my future children to fight in a politicianās war but still have my family & roots here. I didnāt think Iād ever consider the thought until I read Sovereign Individual and watched the West get progressively crazier.
I stay and fight for it. America is an idea and thereās no better place to reignite that idea than here, imo. It just means not running and not quietly consenting to all of their bullshit.
Exit the money. Exit the system. Voice your opposition. Do not comply.
If enough people did that they lose their power. Itās the only option, imo.
Good! This way you can stand shoulder to shoulder with your American Muslim brothers and sisters against the authorities.
But arenāt you a patriot? Whoās going to bring freeduhms to thems peoples over there? š
Remember kids "Just Say No!"
You WILL participate. Via inflation.
Not on a Bitcoin standard I wonāt
We are decades away from that happening
The war is already underway
I didnāt say having the world on a Bitcoin standard, I said *I* was on a Bitcoin standard. Thus, I am not contributing by supporting their dollar by allowing my money to be inflated.
Youāre contributing less, but presumably you still pay taxes and youāre still involved in the political process (even if the involvement is to abstain from participating) that allowed for this to happen.
Dollar bills didnāt send weapons to Israel.
Sure, it's all for freedom and democracy
Iran has consistently called for the destruction of Israel for the last 20 years, has launched their own missiles into Israel (April 2024), and has funded and supported numerous terrorist groups like Hamas's October 7th attack on innocent civilians. If I were Israel I'd be pissed too.
Why are we only upset when Israel takes out Iranian leadership and hampers their nuclear program?
Israel is arrogant. They are the little guy at the bar picking fights with everyone because they have a really big friend there with them. Well, the really big friend is getting tired of fighting wars for Benjamin Netanyahu.
Ur an illiterate idiot.
Cry harder you filthy zionist
No refutation? Just name calling? What about my post upset you so much?
It's not the post that upset me, it's the fact that you're a filthy zionist
How old are you that you still believe that when a completely unrelated country āsupports terrorism,ā and especially one that has had multiple regimes violently installed by the very countries you seem to position as victims here, while the US and Israel have been calling for war with Iran for like 40 yearsā¦ and you still believe the *exact* same line that got us into the utter bullshit that was the Iraq war?
Do you even consider that what you hear on the news might not be the truth, but just what is most convenient for the establishment?
Preach, my dude.
Guy, you seem pretty heated on this issue. I really love your content, and listen to your show all the time. I just think on an issue this devisive it's good to remember theres always nuance and we never have a completely clear picture of the truth. All sides have incentive to lie. All sides have incentive to diminish their own role in things. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. All we can do is approximate justice based on what we think we know.
make wars unaffordable. seems people like war. is it evolutionary biology where cells compete for their position in passing on the gene pool.
Thanks Guy š we need more bitcoiners to call out Israelās fuckery.
But Guy, that's impossible... If the puppet we install is pro west, it _caaaant_ be a tyrant! Must be a liberator
You are participating because you fund the wars and terrorist regimes with your taxes.
Until you Americans get the courage Americans had in 1776 to revolt over the tiny tax they had to pay, the wars will continue.
Does nuclear Iran sound good to you? Iran is such a great democratic human rights championing nation. I guess we have nothing to worry about
I was so worried about how Iran was 2-3 years away from a nuclear bomb in 1992. Then how they were 2-3 years away every year since was even crazier. Canāt believe we dodged that bullet for 33 years thanks to our diligent, honest, and hard working govt.
Again, how old are you?
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I mistook this as a continuation of a different thread because of the order of my notifications.
Two questions: Do you think Iran stopped trying to get nukes? Or do you think itās not dangerous if they succeed? Your point is unclear.
Do you actually believe the nonsense ācount down to the end of the worldā war mongering that has persisted by multiple regimes who have been trying to start a war with Iran for 40 years, during which the same countries violently installed their own regimes and have been f*ckng with every govt in the region for more than half a century?
Donāt honestly still believe their elementary school narrative about why this is all happening? Thereās just some super bad guys who want a super bad bomb and the heroes have to stop them?
Iāll tell you very simply I think they are full of shit. Like they were for every single war for my entire life and for all of them for 20 years before I was born.
And I canāt imagine someone still just taking them at their word considering that not once has it held up. Literally not a single time.
I might be missing what youāre really getting at here. Letās be more specific: Do you think Iran has zero nuclear ambitions? And if they achieved them, would a theocracy with nuclear weapons concern you at all? Does Western governments dishonesty somehow make Iranian threats less real?
Do you or do you not believe Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction and therefore must be stopped at all costs?
I really donāt know. Do you know?
What about Iran? Are they also not developing nuclear weapons?
They definitely are now
Before they wanted to have the capability of developing a nuke as a deterrent so Israel and the US wouldnāt do to them what they did to Iraq, Libya, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen.
Gaddafi gave up their nuclear weapons program and look at what they did to him.
Iran is not dumb. Without a nuclear deterrent they are as good as cooked.
Israel wants total control and domination of the region. Iran is the last one standing
Fair point. So honestly - what path forward do you see?
Maybe stop with the endless aggressive wars, overthrowing elected regimes, funding violent extremist groups, and supporting and installing tyrants across the Middle East?ā¦ I donāt know maybe thatās an option?
Be more specific please. Israel invented Hamas? Is that it? Bibi invented radical Islamism?
Yes, Ron Paul informed us of this many years ago.
Idk about radical islamism
Youāre not sure whether Bibi invented radical Islamism ?
No one āinventedā radical islamism. Factions in Islam became radicalized from US and Israeli actions in the region, but Iām not sure to what extent Bibi himself is responsible for
What about isis? Is that western creation too?
U.S. support for Syrian rebels contributed to the rise of ISIS. This lead to regional destabilization, a refugee crisis, and increased terrorism.
Israel and the US helped ISIS and al-Qaeda take over Syria.
Didnāt know that.
Donāt get me wrong, Iām describe myself as libertarian, even anarcho capitalist on a good day. It just doesnāt mean I canāt distinguish peaceful societies from non peaceful ones.
"Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian State has to support bolstering Hamas & transferring money to Hamas. This is part of our strategy to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank. It's impossible to reach an agreement with them, everyone knows this, but we control the height of the flame."
~Benjamin Netanyahu 2019
Ok. So Bibi indeed invented radical Islamism. Now we found who to blame.
Itās not that simple, but Bibi is not a good actor.
Consider listening to Nick in general, but the last 2 shows are very informative on the current war
Wait, you still believe the nonsense about the Iraq war today?
As I said, I genuinely donāt know enough about Iraq to comment. But help me understand your perspective on Iran - are their nuclear ambitions a conspiracy in your opinion ? Whatās the exact reason it doesnāt seem to concern you?
Seem to keep avoiding from answering. Why?
This is the sort of crap that annoys me more than anything. First I donāt even know what you are wanting me to answer, second I have a stupid busy life, especially right now, and Iām not a loser who spends every second of my day on social. Literally havenāt even been up here since yesterday.
Probably see you tomorrow. If you want to not be a āomgerd he didnāt respond 20 seconds later got emā and make a legitimate point that isnāt a āso you donāt want to invade another country indiscriminately!? Well what if they are super bad guys?ā News vomit, you may do so under this post. But my desire to have a conversation with you has dropped significantly and you clearly have never even tried to look into this beyond whatever you heard on the news and I donāt feel like regurgitating something Iāve covered in a million different places here again for you.
You may try though.
Reducing complex questions to ānews sheep vs enlightened skepticā is the real intellectual poverty. Reality exists between blind faith and total conspiracy. Understanding requires respectful dialogue, not dismissive labels. Your inability to engage without ad hominem attacks mirrors the dogma you project onto others.
The inability to see clearly repeated asked questions (look above in the thread) while finding energy for insults is very disappointing for someone like you. True intellectual discourse demands patience, humility, and honest engagement with challenging ideas - not dismissive language about ālosers.ā This is exactly the difference between constructive and destructive dialogue.
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Demand I answer, play the āgotchaā game, then play the holier than thou card.
Thanks anyway but telling me I have to answer you on Fatherās Day is a great way to earn exactly what youāve received.
Can you make it less cryptic? Donāt know whatās the gotcha game. There is also the option of just answering the questions, just as people do in intellectual dialogue.
Listen, my wife is sick, kids are crazy, I thought I was going to get this day to do a little work, and then I come up here for 5 minutes and have to respond to the most vapid News lineup talking points imaginable and then you acting like your ignorance of 40 years of regime change, CIA funding, the history of lies that have proliferated every single war we have been in since JFKās murder, the explicit manipulation, and not even knowing that Netanyahu has been funding and helping Hamas, pushed me a little too far today. Iām not going to lay out the history of the Shah of Iran and everything in the Middle East which is so obviously the consequence of our horrific and incessant meddling, overthrowing democracies, installing tyrants, and directly funding terrorists of all kinds since before the days of Bush 1.0.
Maybe Iāll come back to this, but I just donāt have the patience today. I got a little overheated and thatās my bad. Iām out of socials for a while though. Might come back to this later in the week. You can *easily* go do a little homework if you just want to look into any of the things mentioned above or pretend they donāt exist. Up to you.
If you want the simple intro, I suggest watching this documentary and then just verifying the claims, like any good Bitcoiner should. Donāt believe it blindly, and stop listening to the damn establishment whatever you do. It always pure bullshit.
Yes. I agree with a lot of what you say. Iām still wondering about your thoughts in the specific matter. Do you think Iran is trying to get nuclear weapons? And if they are, do you think it would be reasonable at some point to try to prevent it militarily?