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Choice. People use zoom. Who are they to force decisions?

The proton customer is already making a different and more difficult choice by not selecting google products.

Proton’s value prop is privacy.

Zoom is the exact opposite of the value prop above.

This does not feel a cohesive product choice.

What’s the alternative to zoom that would be preferred and privacy focused?

Lets consult the proton blog 😀

https://protonvpn.com/blog/zoom-alternatives

The better question is when Jitsi option too.

My guess would be it is quite a bit of work to host jitsi for proton customers at scale, and performantly. Whereas plugging into zoom is low hanging fruit without technical challenges.

I just drop a jitsi link in the description when I add participants

but I have my own instance so nobody has to sign up

Proton Calendar usability has been poor for me and clearly one of the most unprioritized products out of Proton’s suite. I’ve stopped using it.

I’ve had headache trying to figure it out as well. Maybe adding zoom call invites will juice the calendar app KPIs?

The only products I’ll use from Proton at this point are Mail, VPN, and Drive. Though Mail has performance issues and bugs with viewing email attachments, VPN occasionally gives me connection issues, and the Photos feature in Drive seems limited. I might give nostr:npub1dd9znw7585wsam4d8p84ztdmtywwjsrayld6fzk4fvqdn5hpju4st5xe7p a shot, am attempting self-hosted calendar sync through Nextcloud, and I’m already moving my photos and videos out of Google / Apple iCloud (thanks, UK) to Ente (end-to-end encrypted).

Ente is great. Also learned through the migration process that Apple juices up the storage you use on their devices compared to others. On my iPhone, I was supposedly using around 300-400 GB in photo/video storage, but after migrating, it's down to 77 GB. I would be inclined to think that that is due to some sort of compression or loss in quality on Ente's side, but that decrease seems too substantial and quality is still good. I do hate Apple though, so maybe I'm just fishing for conspiracies...

To be adopted by companies

I just past in my jitsi link to the location and ignore the zoom button.

because most people are at least partly enslaved in normie world through a thing called a job?

These people use gmail. If you are using proton you have accepted the challenge of living a bit more privately.

I was thinking the same when I received their Proton updates email today. Why Google and Zoom instead of supporting privacy and FOSS such as nostr:nprofile1qqsrs7xetkmms4xr5rfm944hh7dl9zekzc47vsex74fphfcu7w6956gpr9mhxue69uhks6tkv46xzmrt9ehx7um5wgcjucm0d5q3jamnwvaz7tmswfjk66t4d5h8qunfd4skctnwv46z7qg5waehxw309aex2mrp0yhxgctdw4eju6t00n89td Hivetalk, Jitsi, etc.

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