Primal is eating up a lot of my mobile data. I’m not on an unlimited plan. Any tips on how to reduce data use? Tagging nostr:nprofile1qqs9xtvrphl7p8qnua0gk9zusft33lqjkqqr7cwkr6g8wusu0lle8jcpzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezuurpwfjhgmeww3hhwmspr9mhxue69uhkummnw3exx6r9vd4jumt99aex2mrp0yn7plng to see if there’s a setting or fix for this. #asknostr 😢

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Try taking your shirt off and eating coconuts 🤙

Seimi that only works for the men of primal

Im all out of ideas then 🤷‍♂️

Build a signal booster?

I wonder if it’s the caching feature. All Nostr clients should have a low bandwidth setting. Not everyone has an unlimited data plan.

Caching is supposed to eliminate the redundant data fetching issue that many nostr clients have. This looks odd, may be a bug.

Primal's caching happens entirely server side, then the client only has to read from the caching server. If anything, this practice should reduce the amount of data used, since the client isn't requesting notes from multiple relays and likely receiving a lot of duplicates.

Could be the 100mb blogs ever one & their dog is uploading.

Sorry not sorry nostr:npub1cudap5kkjdvnv78v08m3748afshj0u3zh9h34svrf4nhn07gn4lscflujc

Hey, I have never dog-vlogged, not even once!

Sounds like an opportunity to me. Just use Nostr build shack to shrink yer videos

Could be. Not sure how Primal handles that. I imagine it's really bad if auto-play is turned on, but not sure how much is downloaded when it is turned off, or if it waits to fetch the media until the user hits play in that case.

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Use a different app

One recommendation I have is to disable background data usage and background app refresh. That would be a good start for managing your data plan.

I’ll try that. Thanks.

If you need any help with data management I can help you organize your data consumption on your phone. I see you're on android so I have a few tricks that can help.

Use https://jumble.social, instead.

I can't imagine that helping. Jumble chews through data at unbelievable rates

Just stick to one relay.

Like, TheForest 🌲. 🙂

Ah yes, that might be an efficient setup 🤙

Set the "auto-load media" option to "never" in settings, that’ll save a lot of data.

Good tip, thank you 🤙

Have you disabled the "autoplay video" feature? That reduced a lot of data usage for me in other clients.

Yes, it's off.

The nostr protocol and most of its apps are designed to waste data as one of nostr's many methods of staying small (to keep internet discussions fragmented and echo chambered and crush the hope of people interested in free speech)

That's not true lol. Nostr has used less data for me than X did along with a couple of other applications.

Also convos aren't echochambered here like traditional centralized platforms. If you want true echo chambers, go to Bluesky, Mastodon. Those are true echo chambers that larp as decentralized social platforms.

Overtime Nostr relays and clients will improve over time to help run things more efficiently. It takes time to grow and nurture a new social protocol.

X definitely uses a lot less data than nostr. To create an edge case that shows otherwise, I'm sure the conditions have to involve X doing a lot more than nostr is being asked to do

nostr:npub1n0stur7q092gyverzc2wfc00e8egkrdnnqq3alhv7p072u89m5es5mk6h0 has a data saver mode that you can use; I would suggest giving that a shot

I checked but no Android app available for them at the moment.

True true. Sorry to lead you astray!

It's alright, thank you 😊

Hey nostr:nprofile1qqsyaye7vg25pyccnxv8jgvlne9r9vlkwkhcgfarvj5xl9d4j2l09nsppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qyvhwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnndehhyapwwdhkx6tpdshs3mz9ac , we’re currently working on a way to reduce the amount of mobile data usage with Primal. In the meantime, we would suggest turning off auto-play videos in your settings.

Thanks for the reply. Auto-play was already off on my side, so I’ll wait for the fix you’re working on. 🌻

Do this

Was already off

Damn. I dunno then. I keep those options on unless I’m traveling abroad and don’t think I’ve ever come close to your amount of data usage. Probably cause I’m usually on WiFi. If you’re on iOS, you can try using Damus instead which allows you to completely turn off media previews.

Primal actually responded, they said they’re working on a fix 🌻

Have you heard of WiFi?

Definitely uncheck “Allow background data usage”. You can also change your relay list to use only one or two relays

I’ll uncheck that and cut down the relays too. Thanks 🌻

No worries, if you're looking to depend on one or two relays then I suggest nostr.wine which cost around 18k sats lifetime payment and then is a very high speed performant relay. Then I suggest using one of your own that you run at home. Redundancy is good so don't just use one relay because if that relay goes down then you could lose your Nostr events. Any questions let me know and I can easily explain the technical ins-and-outs :)

Ah maybe the relay list is where I fucked up. 💡