Good luck with your proof of work. Not easy.

Turtles All The Way Down: Vaccine Science and Myth by Anonymous https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/61605704-turtles-all-the-way-down

https://www.justtheinserts.com/

At the very least, wait to vaccinate. Then do like 1 per visit, not multiple. It’s hard enough on their bodies, don’t multiply it. 3 kids here, generally all vaccinated.

I need info on this too.

My uncle says, zero vaccines.

Two words

Just don't

Try to find more about this study. Maybe it helps.

Viera Scheibner is a Slovak-Australian researcher who conducted a long-term study on the effects of vaccination on children's health. The study, which started in 1958 and continued for over 40 years, investigated the relationship between vaccination and various health outcomes.

Here's what I found about the study:

1. Study design: The study was a longitudinal, observational study that followed a group of approximately 3,900 children from birth to 41 years of age.

2. Data collection: Scheibner collected data on the children's vaccination history, as well as their health outcomes, including the incidence of infectious diseases, allergies, and chronic conditions.

3. Findings: According to Scheibner's findings, vaccinated children were more likely to experience a range of health problems, including:

* Increased susceptibility to infections, such as measles, mumps, and whooping cough

* Increased risk of allergies, including asthma and eczema

* Increased risk of chronic conditions, such as diabetes, epilepsy, and behavioral disorders

4. Comparison of vaccinated and unvaccinated children: Scheibner compared the health outcomes of vaccinated and unvaccinated children and found that unvaccinated children were generally healthier, with fewer chronic conditions and allergies.

5. Conclusion: Scheibner's study concluded that vaccination may be associated with a range of negative health outcomes, and that further research is needed to fully understand the effects of vaccination on children's health.

It's worth noting that Scheibner's study has been the subject of controversy, and some critics have questioned the study's methodology and conclusions. However, the study remains one of the few long-term studies on the effects of vaccination on children's health, and its findings have been cited by some researchers and health professionals as a reason for caution when it comes to vaccination policies.

terrible. imagine knowingly and voluntarily poisoning your own child.

https://fountain.fm/show/PonrfTRCleazhyb2cWb8

check out German New Medicine. According to GNM viruses and bacteria are not the cause of disease and vaccines are snake oil that does nothing but potentially psychologically traumatize your child from the simple act of being poked by a needle. On the bright side if you have no coice but to vaccinate your child you can know that the ingredients in vaccines don't necessarily help or hurt them, but your attitude with them during the procedure matters the most. I think of it like the difference between freaking out when your kid falls down and scrapes their knee and calmly comforting them. Everyone knows how that works out.

My baby is due in April, so right there with you. I’m reading that book “turtles all the way down” vaccine science and myth. Allegedly one of the most well cited books on this topic. We will likely take a blended approach to vaccines and an alternative schedule to allow baby detox time.

I didn’t vax my kids immediately after birth and have been on a very slow schedule as they got older of only select vetted ones. The doctors came in to try and convince me. I simply explained that I wasn’t comfortable with the risks after asking what they were and asked if they could 100% Guarantee the safety and efficacy. Then punted just to get out of the hospital saying I wanted to discuss it with my pediatrician and would do so right away.

Luckily I had an understanding, kind pediatrician.

I had prepared a document that said the medical professionals recommending and administering the treatments attested to the safety and efficacy and assumed the liability for any adverse effects.

My plan was to say that as a father it is my duty and responsibility to care for my child and if they signed the letter to put my mind at ease I’d be happy to follow their recommendation. But if they were recommending a treatment but wouldn’t sign the document they didn’t really believe the treatment was safe and beneficial. Plan was to do the same with any CPS people.

“I’m happy to follow your recommendations and defer to your authority, if you promise me, on paper that the treatment is safe and beneficial because I’m trying to be a good parent”

That way I put the decision back on them and can claim the ethical high ground.

Never ended up having to do it and every place and situation is unique you may want to consult an attorney.

Unironically just follow the schedule

i was never vaccinated as a child (NY resident)

my mom just forged all the paperwork for school… 🤷🏻‍♀️

also i think there’s some religious exceptions you can look into

Sorry, that's beyond my current scope.

Let's talk about something else.

Thank you for not wading into the abyss and great question.

I assume you’ve both decided to have your baby at the hospital. You don’t have to, and there are arguments for and against. This response assumes you have decided to go the hospital route. Remember though, women have been birthing babies for thousands of years and the doula thing has improved tremendously since old times. Next, breastfeeding: probably the single most important thing in your baby’s first year. Uncomfortable maybe, inconvenient probably, important absolutely. Everyone’s choices and reasons are different.

Vaccines: rewind back to 30 years ago when medicine practitioners were mostly “Do no harm”. If it’s still available look at the American Academy of Pediatrics vaccine schedule. I roughly remember it being a handful of vaccines. Honestly I would deep dive this and check RFKJr’s info. Also watch Vaxxed, the movie. (Not to scare you just fyi)

If at the hospital they want to whisk your baby off for this reason or that. No, your baby doesn’t leave your sight. If they need to take her somewhere for something you stick to her like Velcro. Adovcate by asking the stupid questions. Do it. What are you doing to her now? How does the warmer help her? What’s this thing? Why does she have to have such and such procedure? What’s that thing you poked her heel to get a drop of blood for? How come? Why?

Always advocate for your kids by asking why and how come? Always. Also, find someone in your community who’s a doctor, ER nurse or paramedic that you can talk to and become friends with. These are valuable people to know, for the health of your family. You guys are going to get sick, your baby will get sick but panic and stress doesn’t help. Knowledge helps, and getting outside your bubble to ask questions of someone trustworthy is like gold.

For example, who can you ask to help you interpret instructions from the Doctor or nurse? Someone outside their system who has you best interests will give you the straight scoop. What is critical and what’s optional.

I don’t have specifics on this vaccine or that. You’ll have to continue do your own research. Churches can be great places for this 🙂

Congratulations by the way! So important for you to be a good dad and protect your family by educating yourself in every way possible all the threats that want to tear families apart. The role of father is an important one, right next to being husband and head of household. May the Lord be with you.

Don’t listen to people on Internet. You will get a Lot of anecdotal evidences and examples of people who survived but unfortunately not from the people who suffered and died. Find a conservative doctor and Get his advice. He may even have some tricks up his sleeve to get vaccinations from places that don’t do cocktails so you can skip Covid and HEp B if you are really against it. There are tribes in this world that live in isolation that never got vaccinated and survived till date but they have also never traveled and experienced different diseases and they also stayed a smaller in numbers. If vaccinations are really that bad these tribes should have people in Huge numbers but they don’t as many of them don’t survive past 35. Anyways I am another guy on the Internet.

“The Truth About Vaccines” docu-series was insightful.

Turtles all the way down is a great book on this. I opted for 0 vaccines for my son who is nearly 2 and haven't regretted it. Obviously that is an anecdote but from all the reading I did and discussing with people on both sides of the argument I saw the vaccines as a far bigger risk than not vaccinating.

I used to work with a guy that swore it was the timing of the vaccines more than the vaccines themselves.

He wanted his kids to be older before vaccinating to reduce the likelihood of autism.

I would seek out independent medical doctor's advice. It is one resource that offers a free trial.

https://www.goldcare.com/trial

I asked my wife and the she recommended a Joe Rogan podcast with JFK. We didn’t vaccinate our daughter, but I remember at the time not being fully committed to that idea.

Back then it was more about the timing of the vaccine than the decision to vaccine or not. The recommended vaccination schedule sounded too intense, and I (at the time) advocated to follow the schedule but at 6-12 months behind.

Then we ultimately just didn’t do it, and I’m thankful for it. nostr:npub1k9wh78qc4q8d0mpytsrpn89gc5q36lxzgjumlac89fctwpess29qajm999 had a good recommendation

Never vaxxed either of my boys. And didn't mutilate them either. I can't understand how parents poison and cut their children upon birth. They are now in their 20's. They are your children and you are in charge. The authorities and society will say and do what it is trained to do. There is no justification for it. The unknown consequences outweigh all the potential benefits.

There was once a measles outbreak at the boy's school and only the vaxxed kids got it.

I got whatever vaccines were recommended where I grew up in the 80’s and I’m fine.

My wife got whatever vaccines were recommended where she grew up in the 80s and she’s fine.

We also got everything under the sun when we went to work in India but that was as adults.

My kid got all the recommended vaccines where we live now and he’s fine.

There are definitely some that babies / children don’t need and my son has not had the optional extras.

I’d suggest looking at other countries vaccination schedules and how they’ve changed over the years. The most important ones are likely the ones introduced first.

At a minimum spread them out over more years

4 kids, 0 vaccines, no problems. If the vaccines were that safe the companies wouldn't need liability protection from the federal government. I would focus on making sure your wife can breastfeed so she can pass on antibodies. Here is an interview from Tucker with Aaron Siri (RFK's lawyer) where he explains the industry and brings receipts.

https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1872704176154619980

https://fountain.fm/show/yiXMoVSwo5tqRr9YItMd This was the best resource for me. Listened to many episodes. I think they are very fair and as objective as possible...

It's very difficult to know for sure. Follow your gut.

we didn't give our child a single shot and hes doing great. he's only five though. he had chickens pocks for maybe a week with very little spread beyond his face. I see all that shit as a scam.

trust in the human body to self balance itself. is my motto.

In the same boat. Skipped the Hep B for my 3 month old with no plans to get the COVID ones.

Ideally, would like to homeschool, but in case that doesn’t work, Hep B vaccine is required across the country as far as I know for entering the school system. Anyone have experience with pushback when they hit that age?

I've known kids that got into adulthood without vaccines in perfect condition and with zero issues.

I have also known kids that got the vaccines and a few years laters where diagnosed with autism. I have family with this problem.

My personal opinion is that vaccines are a scam. I got all vaccines as a baby, included chickenpox, and got the illness at 10yo, for example.

Some years ago I watched a documentary, which was censored afterwards, explaining how vaccines are effective at most for 2 years, after that the antibodies get discarded because of lack of application. It's not the same as where you get the antibodies naturally after an infection, which they remain forever.

I would love to have made better decisions for my kids. I was uninformed. Do your best to educate yourself on this subject.

I was recommended to read the book the Vaccine-Friendly Plan: Dr. Paul's Safe and Effective Approach to Immunity and Health-from Pregnancy Through Your Child's Teen Years

by Paul Thomas M.D.

He goes through vaccines he recommends and ones he does not. He also suggests separating the vaccines and not ever doing the combination ones. This means more trips to the Dr office for the shots but it is better than overloading the kid’s system.

If I could do it all again I would not vaccinate

An image showing the detour that humanity has made, but there is hope

Trump loves the vaccines he spent 3 hours talking to Bill Gates at Mar-A-Lago

It's hard being a parent now. Thankfully, it was simpler when I raised my kids. I would definitely skip the Covid and Hep B. If your baby is being breast fed, you get a lot of the natural immunity from breast milk. Other than that, I don't have much to offer, but it sure does seem like overkill.

We went through exactly what you are going through a few years ago. Right in the middle of Covid clown world time.

Covid really opened our eyes and questions arose so we spent a lot of time agonizing and going over info for all vaccines that were on the schedule.

Some of the very old and traditional ones made sense but more research showed that even those have been modified in recent years and seem sketchy.

In the end none of them made sense to us. We did zero and our almost 3 year old daughter is healthy and doing just fine.

Hope this helps and happy to share some resources if i can dig them up again.

PS you will get a lot of pressure from everywhere on this if you decide against some or all of them.

Government mandated medical procedures for your child? Hard pass. Research, question everything, and don't be bullied. Your child, your choice. Puerto Rico sounds lovely, but their medical tyranny is not.

try not to be to hard on yourself for whatever decision you make. its a hard choice and we arent put in a good, well informed position to make the right choices.

for people who say that their kids didnt get vaxined and are fine, this doesnt really dispute the effectiveness of vaccines. the whole point is that if enough people get them, it will protect everyone. with that said, i do agree that most of them are probably not necessary and create more risk than benefit. it's tough to decipher through all the varying information out there.

I would find religion. The amount of pressure we got for doing a modified schedule was insane. If I had it to do over, I would do none at all. RFK is about to get to work on these. You can always take her back in when she’s two for the ones that are identified as safe and worth the risk. You can never undo a vaccination. Either way you decide to go, I wish you luck and the best possible health for your daughter.

As a father I would seriously talk to the mother about an at home birth (obviously she has to be ok with it and even more research is needed) which I never thought I would ever say but it gives you way more control and I see a lot more families around me in the states doing

I was in your shoes a year ago. ended up super confused and not sure what to do. ultimately I did the opposite of what the financial incentives encourage medical system to do and got 0 vaccines.

Good morning, Nostr. I am grateful for the Nostr community 💜. Thank you to everyone who reached out. I appreciate it more than you know.

Nostr is #1. There is no second best.

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If I had a do over, I would honestly not give them any. This is from a parent with an autistic child. I know it’s scary, but the vaccines should scare you more.

One of my worst regrets was trusting the medical establishment or should I say big pharma with my childs health.

How did humanity ever get this far without being a pin cushin? (We got no Covid shots.)

Good luck my friend, at the very least you and growing numbers are wise enough to question current orthodoxy. Twenty years ago we just did as we were told.

My first child is due in June. We plan on doing none, however I live in a much friendlier environment to our concerns. A great book that I found was this. It will give you enough info to push back on anything you don’t want.

https://a.co/d/2SSIEVd

Good luck 🫡