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Too many people have given Elon a pass. Don't give him a pass.

He's a marketer, not a founder or an engineer. He didn't found PayPal or Tesla; he bought into them early. He's good at selling narratives and equity valuation for perpetually unprofitable companies.

Everything for him is a narrative. His green revolution was a narrative to sell more cars and get more subsidies. His bitcoin purchase was to gain appeal among bitcoin/crypto people in a bull market. And he shilled doge like a dumbass. His SpaceX narrative is to get money from the government.

His rooftop solar thing was an outright scam; the technology isn't ready and went nowhere because of that. His full-self-driving-in-an-intermediate-term timeline was a scam, and is going nowhere because of that. He makes scams to draw people and capital in, because for him it's all about narratives and equity valuation.

And then he dug unproductive holes, suggested unproductive hyper-tubes, built meme flamethrowers, for what? It's a narrative, not a business. None of this is real productive shit to make peoples' lives better.

His latest "we need free speech" narrative was a scam too. He tapped into something real, which is what marketers do and why it kind of worked. Yes, we need free speech. Yes, Twitter had censorship issues. He saw that and jumped on it maliciously rather than productively.

But what did he replace it with? He replaced it with arbitrary journalist censorship about his private jet, arbitrary censorship of Substack, selective Twitter Files release, won't talk seriously about any of his China connections because Xi Jinping fucking owns him economically there like Jack Ma, has his balls firmly in his grasp, etc.

Elon's playing the narrative, the anti-woke meme of the day. He's a master meme-momentum-player. Don't fall for it.

Most conversation I’ve seen on a note so far. It’s happening…

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Jeez, the stats on that note 🤯

Just a pile on bandwagon.

Elon is the modern day Charlie Munger.

Zapped!

He really is. He just rides trends uses free government paper to fund his “green” projects. The “right” thing to do is always the thing that benefits him. Him buying Twitter wasn’t to save speech…many still have been locked out of their accounts. I think he’s worse than munger bc at least munger picks a side.

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Followed Lyn because of this Note.

Me too. She’s a fire cracker 🔥

It's breaking the UI... 😂

Elon Meeska Muska Marketeer

Network effect/Collective consciousness latching on is more powerful than us all. Exciting times. Looks like the tech will scale as the network effect does. 💜

Is no one else bothered by the fact the piece of content that’s gotten the most zaps on nostr recently, is a sensationalist hot take? Nostr doesn’t seem to be solving the fundamental issue plaguing modern media, that sensationalism will drown out balanced content any day of the week.

Is no one else bothered by the fact the piece of content that’s gotten the most zaps on nostr recently, is a sensationalist hot take? Nostr doesn’t seem to be solving the fundamental issue plaguing modern media, that sensationalism will drown out balanced content any day of the week.

Disagree. There is no kind of bad mechanism pushing sensationalism here, no engagement farming, no algorithm used, except for honest and well written words. Sensationalist hot takes with value will always get value back. Zaps, boosts, comments... that's how it SHOULD work

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Stupid things will always get more money. What Nostr fixes is not bell curves and human nature. Nostr makes sure smart things can also get money, anyone can follow smart money they choose, and smart things can't be censored.

So no , i'm not concerned. I hope more outrage attracts people to Nostr.

Not to imply Lyn is stupid or the post was stupid by the way. Just that outrage/alarmist posts appeal to many people with or without an algo pushing it.

Human attention is bounded and can be saturated though. Nostr seems to be distributing the responsibility for the mechanism to filter out the garbage. Hard to tell if that’s good or bad yet…

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aap9559

“Contrary to conventional wisdom, robots accelerated the spread of true and false news at the same rate, implying that false news spreads more than the truth because humans, not robots, are more likely to spread it.”

Hot takes and drama will always attract eyeballs. That's how tabloids and clickbait sites have worked and will continue to work. What nostr promotes is an open protocol, not a cure for human nature.

If you don't want to see hot takes and drama, you can probably design either a relay or a client that can filter for notes with an "unusually high engagement" numbers.

The same goes with spam and scam bots. It's not the responsibility of the protocol to filter them. Doing that will open the floodgates to what made corporate social media the way it is.

Filtering should be done on an individual level (i.e: client and relay implementations.)

That difference alone makes nostr wildly different than corporate social media.

Yeah , and it’s no big deal when you can see where peoples ideas come from because of thier notes. Not gonna start a fire in my bucket ,,, last rule in reasonably productive engagement is no name calling . If you break that first , it’s like a poker call.

This is an interesting perspective. Hadn’t thought about it in that way.

Hate never wins in the end

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Elon is a censor. Anyone have the Bluesky npub?

Jay created one but I guess deleted it?

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Its a productive eye opener

I wonder how #[1] sees Nostr in relation to Block's other projects (Bluesky, DID included). Is it part of it? Or did Nostr change the way those projects are being built?

Nostr changes everything for me

same

Apart from bitcoin

I just got it it’s pretty cool

Be sure to set 🆙 your ⚡️ wallet too!

Let me know if you have any questions on how.

Welcome 🙏🫂💜🤙

Why? Is it signal or the underpinnings of Nostr?

I’ve followed Jack for a long time now and he always gets painted in a terrible light by those that oppose our views, but yet he always seems to support the most important things quietly and they always turn out to be right choice.

As they say, “Let it roll off like water on a ducks back”

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Same here. Hopeful that a convergence of those projects will happen soon where free speech, decentralized identities and on ramp/off ramp of BTC can all co-exist.

That thought travels through my head every day. The last piece of freedom is the freedom to peacefully transact. Have a free and open market where the likes of the people decide the fate or success of any given thing.

Can you tell me how you'd like to see on and off ramps working? I work for one

An international KYCed or non-KYCed platform, open to all nationalities, where you can use your day-to-day credit/debit cards or wire transfers to buy BTC through Lightning and sell back to it. It can also host a marketplace (think ebay) where people can sell their stuff for BTC and start accumulating it.

Sounds too extreme to be feasible but this is the only way for a wider adoption and ultimately a true open & decentralized world.

What is maximum fee or spread above Spot price donyou consider to be reasonable, considering that cards are 2% more expensive

If fees/spread are similar to those of P2P platforms (3-4%?) but come with direct single option to just buy BTC & send to wallet, without dealing with 3rd parties, I think it will be a huge deal.

Many people would stomach the high fees if it means they can buy easily at anytime/anywhere.

I envision it as a last resort portal to escape fiat for those who are unable to use centralized exchanges.

Tell me what you think of checkout.banxa.com, I'll work to improve it. Ln TBC

I tried it but got stuck with KYCs. An official ID was not enough apparently. Those frictions, while understandable, are what hinder progress I think. But overall I liked the interface and ease of creating a purchase. Better than Moonpay for example.

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Powerful…

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Is Nostr a bigger game changer in the developing world, where authoritarian regimes censor social media ruthless (re: Turkey and Twitter with Erdogan). Love your engagement with the community Jack and love the Cash Apple. Grateful for what you’ve helped build :)

Open source software is incredible. Pushing to the limit of innovation coming from everywhere in the world.

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Glad to hear this 💜 means so much.

Legit thought I was going crazy how quick and by how much I was bullish on #nostr the first hour I was on.

So early too! Can’t imagine what it’ll be by #nostrasia 🤙.

To me, the recent doge stunt on Twitter really passed me off, even though many saw it as a light-hearted joke. People get rekt due to stunts like that and he is guilty. Lyn's piece was timely .. fuck Elon.

That post is the reason why I am here.

Respectfully, Jack didn’t you say Elon would be the single solution for Twitter?

^ Nevermind, saw you had answered that. Seems your hands were tied as CEO of Twitter on multiple issues. Hope one day your side of the story is brought to light.

My story doesn’t matter. What matters is what I do with what I learned.

what did u learn

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You have unique experiences that are worth us all learning from… especially those that come after us. With Twitter shutting down Revue, your essay seems to have been wiped from the internet which is a shame.

Repost it on Nostr?

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And more importantly , why you did what you did when you did it. The reason.

Every truth matters

Great vibe, positivity

why so serious -_-

lyns spitting hot fire today . lol fuck Elon in particular today

Fuck him every day, not just today. Full grown man child

Her posts are stealing all the bandwidth. 🤣

To think Elon isn’t currently having to stomach, experience, or walk through whatever fire Jack has had to seems a bit delusional to me. It would really seem to me it may be worse. Prayers in all corners on this , but … I’m not gonna hate the hate that hate made .. that’s what hate wants anyways .

Oh, I see what you did here

Just hope he put bitcoin nodes in all the space x satellites 😎⚡

📑bookmarking for study🤔