Too many people have given Elon a pass. Don't give him a pass.

He's a marketer, not a founder or an engineer. He didn't found PayPal or Tesla; he bought into them early. He's good at selling narratives and equity valuation for perpetually unprofitable companies.

Everything for him is a narrative. His green revolution was a narrative to sell more cars and get more subsidies. His bitcoin purchase was to gain appeal among bitcoin/crypto people in a bull market. And he shilled doge like a dumbass. His SpaceX narrative is to get money from the government.

His rooftop solar thing was an outright scam; the technology isn't ready and went nowhere because of that. His full-self-driving-in-an-intermediate-term timeline was a scam, and is going nowhere because of that. He makes scams to draw people and capital in, because for him it's all about narratives and equity valuation.

And then he dug unproductive holes, suggested unproductive hyper-tubes, built meme flamethrowers, for what? It's a narrative, not a business. None of this is real productive shit to make peoples' lives better.

His latest "we need free speech" narrative was a scam too. He tapped into something real, which is what marketers do and why it kind of worked. Yes, we need free speech. Yes, Twitter had censorship issues. He saw that and jumped on it maliciously rather than productively.

But what did he replace it with? He replaced it with arbitrary journalist censorship about his private jet, arbitrary censorship of Substack, selective Twitter Files release, won't talk seriously about any of his China connections because Xi Jinping fucking owns him economically there like Jack Ma, has his balls firmly in his grasp, etc.

Elon's playing the narrative, the anti-woke meme of the day. He's a master meme-momentum-player. Don't fall for it.

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I don’t know. Every public mega cap company is cronyist to an extent, including the establishment carmakers he’s trying to disrupt.

politics is a dirty business

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All true.

Except for SpaceX; these reusable rockets actually do work and are a remarkable piece of engineering (not by him personally, but still).

Tesla on the other hand is a major scam. Always has been

I actually like driving Tesla car. It helped usher in a new era of automobiles.

That Tesla scam has worked out well for me. 4 year owner with 120k miles (150 per/day). Still a fun car to drive.

But not for society.

Society can handle multiple choices. As a family we have 1 EV, 1 Gas, 1 Diesel Truck. All three serve a different purpose..

You’re not following the argument…too late for me now. Or you could read Lyn’s explanation again.

It seems as if you are right. Thanks for the clear words.

Btw: doesn’t it feel liberating to use words like „shit“ and „fuck“ without being asked if „you are sure“ to say that and shadow banning you anyway if you do? Sometimes these words are necessary to get a point across.

Agreed. Fuck Elon. The bloom is certainly off the rose.

What a great turn of phrase! 🤙

I thought you were proud of Elon, calling him the Edison of our age?

I’d have to hear the context of me saying that to comment on it, because I don’t remember it.

Think it was a hodl hangout with #[5]

In general I was pro Elon until he began commenting on bitcoins energy usage and then it became abundantly clear to me that he has no clue what he’s talking about and is mainly just a genius marketer like lyn is saying above.

Entirely fair. I’ve yet to find a person I’ve agreed with on everything. There’s good takes, poor takes, and take a hike takes. I appreciate what I can and move on.

Agree. Nobody's a saint. Learn from them what you can.

Elon might be trickster, but the products coming from his companies are insane.

This is exactly right. Another big one for me was the laughable “engineering” schematic he had drawn to save those kids stuck in the cave😂

Thanks #[1], nostr needs more posters (notesters?) like you

This is a side of #[1]​ that we haven’t seen before.

I like it!

Wow 🔥

When 🫂 have had enough of that 💩 💸🟦 they will search out this 🟠🟣.

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Shots fired

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Lyn’s right

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Just posted it somewhere else but it fits too good - so again

Musk has always been a self proclaimed meme king. This is what you get for kneeling to a meme king. You ask for emptiness you get emptiness.

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Yep and to prove your point (and raise cash) Elon just dumped Dogecoin on some lost fools.

#nostr #[1]​ is the best Lyn Alden.

While this is certainly true, he has also built the most agile company culture and lead those to several achievements previously labeled „impossible“:

-Landing rockets

-EVs that are better than any gas car

-Self Driving in 90% of situations with no premapping nor lidar nor radar.

So yea, he is great at marketing and a lot he does never works out. Yet he achieved more than any single person in history, maybe except Tesla himself.

He achieved more than any single person in history.... That's the kind of cult of personality stuff that gets us to some weird dark places IMHO

Name the person that has done more

How do you want to frame achieve or do more? Because this list can be long in several different framings

I’d say brought forth by own power and/or leadership technologies that have in a bigger impact on society.

yes, person cults are big evil comitted by those who fall for it. Which are many /but/ the culted person itself.

... and its pretty much always wrong! Whenever i look closer, such hyped ones proof not half as achieving as is told. (while the real John Galts dont get hyped but fought)

Pretty big words of praise for Elon "I haven't created a single profit generating business without government help" Musk 🙃

He has objectively achieved what no other leader could 🤷

And if I’m not wrong the rocket technology that nobody else dared try and the approach to vision AI that nobody else dared try will have at least as much impact as AC technology by Tesla or the internet.

You can hate the guy all you want, but he can assemble world class teams and has the balls to pursue paths everyone else is too afraid to.

I agree with this. Elon gets subsidies on car sales but guess what, the oil and gas industry globally gets a trillion dollars in subsidies annually. I don’t like the subsidy argument.

Elon builds good tech, and he IS an engineer. Where he goes fatally wrong though is his insistence on building on the legacy model of centralized surveillance capitalism.

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LYN!!! 🔥🔥🔥 More of this, please!!!!

Absolutely right about welfare queen elon.

My favorite Lynn is based bring it home Lynn. Thanks for that and all you do.

Salty Lyn is my favourite Lyn.

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Hell yes, to true free speech!

Nostr + ₿itcoin all the way.

When Elon schilled dogshitcoin I lost all respect for him and knew right then he was a fraud.

People that truly grok that ₿itcoin is THE SINGLE most important thing to happen to humanity in our lifetimes act a lot more like #[2]​ and #[3]​

Ok, rant over. Gonna vent my frustration constructively during the #zapathon!

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#plebchain

He basically perfectly plays the fiat system.

He is very esoteric aswell and most people don't realize this as they arent even aware of the esoteric aspect itself.

On the "Occupy Mars" Shirt is a Bloodmoon depicted instead of Mars.

The planet Mars is believed to have been named after the Roman god of war and protector of Rome. According to Roman myth, Mars rode on a chariot pulled by Phobos and Deimos (meaning fear and panic), two mythical horses. The name may also be related to Latin mas meaning "male".

I like this side of Lyn. Succinct and true.

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Can't be too mad at him tho. He understands how to play the fiat game extremely well and it's paid off in terms of fiat standards. But we #plebs can now see through the bs, say it for what it is, stack sats, and go on with our lives happier and more at peace knowing we don't have to put up with this madness anymore 🤩⚡️love the post!

#bitcoin #nostr #fckthefiatmatrix #fckfiat

Very good Lyn👏

tl;dr

> dumbass

> outright scam

> his balls

I love when mild manned Lyn for normie consumption, turns into bitcoin/nostr fuck the system Lyn!

I didn’t realize that most of his things are scams.

I was excited about a lot of things he’s working on, but after the Thai cave rescue thing where he called a critic a pedophile and then hired a PI to try to actually dig up dirt on the guy - I lost respect for him.

When he started shilling DOGE I realized how shallow he can be with his thought process. Clearly vapid in some areas.

When he acquired Twitter and started censoring links to competing social media platforms, I realized he is also a hypocrite in areas that he seems to think deeply about.

Then I always tried to stay neutral on the China thing, but it’s true that he never criticizes Xi or the communist party, while always criticizing US politicians.

As a user of Starlink, I’m pretty happy with what he’s doing there.

I also appreciate what he did with Tesla , he got the momentum going with electric vehicles and his story of putting everything on the line for Tesla was inspiring - but he did make more money being close to the money printer for bogus carbon credits which was more profitable than selling the cars.

It’s very tough to continue respecting him as time goes on and he keeps benefiting from the money printer while doing -rep things for bitcoin, a technology that can actually change the lives of people worldwide.

Def don’t give him a pass.

Absolute 🔥

Have a buddy who is a huge Elon simp. Has completely bought into the nonsense

100k sats to shit on Elon, not bad 😅

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It’s an honest living

100% 😂

69 sats for pointing it out

Beat ya to it hhahah

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It’s called value for value 😏😂

He like carbs and doge

Finally someone else noticed this.

For me, the first red flag was his big disagreement with PayPal team in which he wanted to switch to Windows from Linux infrastructure. What a dumb move it could have been for PayPal if they allowed him.

Finish him!!! Flawless victory.

Lyn you Fucking Legend……I might just buy 210 copies of your book when it comes out

Well said

Damn!

So good, #[0]​!!!

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Damn Lyn… you’re so based 💯

The ultimate grifter!

"hE's BaSIcAlLy A rEaL LiFe tOnY sTaRK"

"WhERe dOeS hE FiND tHe TiMe tO sLeEp?"

If you wanted a simple envelope of notes for everything you needed to know about Elon, #[0]​ has you covered.

#NailedIt

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Bringing the heat! 🔥🔥🙌⚡️

Glad you exist and everything you do for the betterment of humanity.

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Let that sink in

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It is my humble opinion that everyone should zap the shit out of this post, Lyn is so based

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Yes he is a lot about appearances and attention but I think he had critical roles in Teslas and spacex successes.

Yup I agree with you, people love to boil ppl down to make themselves feel bigger.

I agree, he played a critical role in these companies receiving countless government money and endless subsidies 👌

"successes" yes, backroom special deals feeding from the public trough

Dang. This 🔥

Elon is a state agent. He takes subsidies and helps drive the narrative towards more state control.

Wow🫢

GET HIM! 👏

Lyn always gets the flower…

he's more woke than some of the other oligarchs 🤣

1 scammer = 1 scammer

Musky Doge doing what Musky Doge believes is in his interest, is driving peeps to find alternatives. NOSTR benefits from Musky Doge doing regarded shit. Thus, Musky Doge is good for #Bitcoin

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Plus he’s funny and why throw away the idea of Twitter adopting NOSTR?

Twitter will become a NOSTR client, whether Musky Doge will still be running Twitter then.... Eh

If decentralized and open source money wins over centralized money, shouldn't it be the same for information?

It hasn’t won yet you twat ✌️🤣

#[1] telling it how it is 🔥🔥🔥

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Goddamn Lyn! Good for you. You are a real one and when you speak I listed.

Remember the time he tried to save the Thai soccer kids?

But Lyn…. How do you really feel? 😂

Here at Hooli we are committed to making the world a better place.

Anybody ever heard Elon Musk ever criticise China?

China media?

China Gov?

China dictatorship?

China economy?

Sure hates America… with 130 million Americans who love him

Elon hates

America

Bitcoin

Dogecoin

You

Move on Bitcoiners

I think I just became a #[1] fanboi 🫢

So then why does @jack get a pass? Unless I missed it, he’s never actually owned it and repented, but just shrugged and made excuses...”oops…I let it grow too fast”. That is not leadership and the MO seems misaligned with the principles he/we claim in the BTC community. Is he gonna piss in this pool with the same ideology that created the bird monster?

P.s. For anyone that has been paying attention for any amount of time...Elon is obviously a government shill and/or an intelligence asset. I've been saying it for 5 years.

not gonna give my judgement here, this topic seems a little controversial👀

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The beauty of Nostr, it doesn’t matter how controversial something is (this isn’t) you don’t need to give a shit what anyone thinks.

Removing self censorship is empowering!

agreed on the speech freedom part and btw I just need more info to reach my own opinion on this, not self censorship

he is a very rich kid of south africa blood diamon parents

a serial liar

never started up anything

lied about everything

You are helping people understand where to go 🫂🤙🏼

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Facts 🤙

Glad that you can say whatever you want on here and there’s no-one to suppress it.

That alone makes #nostr superior. That you got zapped a few hundred thousand Sats for your rant is 👌

I kind of view Peterson in the same light.

I was a fan for a long time and didn't realize how scummy he was until recently.

If history is anything to go by, I wouldn’t bet against Elon.

Also, the moment Elon started speaking his mind freely and not self censoring, the mainstream hated him.

I’m on the side of allowing someone to speak freely without having the cancel mob chasing you to ruin your life.

Lyn is right. Elon is a grifter. Look into his technocratic grandfather

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Lyn. Did you write this or does someone else have your account. This is fire.

Definitely zap worthy

This👇

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#[2]​ in 6 months

This note is surprising and very brave

Wow, never heard it put like that before. 100% agree

💯 %agree. Musk is a malevolent, baphomet fantasist and scammer.

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Harsh but sometimes things need to be in your face before you see the reality.

Based, Lyn.

This is why I love nostr!

Someone posted a screenshot of this on Twitter… had set up Nostr and make Lyn my first follow 😁

I like this Lyn

All valid critiques, Elon is the P. T. Barnum of our era.

The man’s a troll

Mentally read this as the lyrics to a late 90s dance track by Faithless with "Elon is a Shitcoiner" in the chorus...

Epic!

Wow!! 👏. I haven’t seen this side of you Lyn, I love it haha!

I hold this view 100%. I was disappointed and even enraged to see several crypto geeks falling for his narrative. When Max Keiser called him out in 2021 Bitcoin conference, I went deep into Elon’s rabbit hole “F***Elon!”

Lyn unleashed 🧡 love to see it

#[2] go off Lyn

Your post lacks objectivity. Elon Musk certainly a founder. He founded SpaceX. Also, Tesla has been profitable for a couple years now. While you’re right that he’s primarily a marketer and not an engineer, and he certainly shouldn’t be deified, you could have done that without the extraneous, erroneous, and biased commentary.

Also, why the implicit (explicit?) disdain for marketing. That’s a crucial function/step in any scaled value creation chain.

I understand you are angry but this is the first time in years your assessments seem to be off the mark

Most conversation I’ve seen on a note so far. It’s happening…

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Signal 📈

Jeez, the stats on that note 🤯

Just a pile on bandwagon.

Elon is the modern day Charlie Munger.

Zapped!

He really is. He just rides trends uses free government paper to fund his “green” projects. The “right” thing to do is always the thing that benefits him. Him buying Twitter wasn’t to save speech…many still have been locked out of their accounts. I think he’s worse than munger bc at least munger picks a side.

Followed Lyn because of this Note.

Me too. She’s a fire cracker 🔥

Elon Meeska Muska Marketeer

Network effect/Collective consciousness latching on is more powerful than us all. Exciting times. Looks like the tech will scale as the network effect does. 💜

Is no one else bothered by the fact the piece of content that’s gotten the most zaps on nostr recently, is a sensationalist hot take? Nostr doesn’t seem to be solving the fundamental issue plaguing modern media, that sensationalism will drown out balanced content any day of the week.

Is no one else bothered by the fact the piece of content that’s gotten the most zaps on nostr recently, is a sensationalist hot take? Nostr doesn’t seem to be solving the fundamental issue plaguing modern media, that sensationalism will drown out balanced content any day of the week.

Disagree. There is no kind of bad mechanism pushing sensationalism here, no engagement farming, no algorithm used, except for honest and well written words. Sensationalist hot takes with value will always get value back. Zaps, boosts, comments... that's how it SHOULD work

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Stupid things will always get more money. What Nostr fixes is not bell curves and human nature. Nostr makes sure smart things can also get money, anyone can follow smart money they choose, and smart things can't be censored.

So no , i'm not concerned. I hope more outrage attracts people to Nostr.

Not to imply Lyn is stupid or the post was stupid by the way. Just that outrage/alarmist posts appeal to many people with or without an algo pushing it.

Human attention is bounded and can be saturated though. Nostr seems to be distributing the responsibility for the mechanism to filter out the garbage. Hard to tell if that’s good or bad yet…

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aap9559

“Contrary to conventional wisdom, robots accelerated the spread of true and false news at the same rate, implying that false news spreads more than the truth because humans, not robots, are more likely to spread it.”

Hot takes and drama will always attract eyeballs. That's how tabloids and clickbait sites have worked and will continue to work. What nostr promotes is an open protocol, not a cure for human nature.

If you don't want to see hot takes and drama, you can probably design either a relay or a client that can filter for notes with an "unusually high engagement" numbers.

The same goes with spam and scam bots. It's not the responsibility of the protocol to filter them. Doing that will open the floodgates to what made corporate social media the way it is.

Filtering should be done on an individual level (i.e: client and relay implementations.)

That difference alone makes nostr wildly different than corporate social media.

Yeah , and it’s no big deal when you can see where peoples ideas come from because of thier notes. Not gonna start a fire in my bucket ,,, last rule in reasonably productive engagement is no name calling . If you break that first , it’s like a poker call.

This is an interesting perspective. Hadn’t thought about it in that way.

Hate never wins in the end

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Elon is a censor. Anyone have the Bluesky npub?

Jay created one but I guess deleted it?

Deleted?

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That post is the reason why I am here.

Respectfully, Jack didn’t you say Elon would be the single solution for Twitter?

^ Nevermind, saw you had answered that. Seems your hands were tied as CEO of Twitter on multiple issues. Hope one day your side of the story is brought to light.

My story doesn’t matter. What matters is what I do with what I learned.

what did u learn

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You have unique experiences that are worth us all learning from… especially those that come after us. With Twitter shutting down Revue, your essay seems to have been wiped from the internet which is a shame.

Repost it on Nostr?

I love you 💕 #[3]

And more importantly , why you did what you did when you did it. The reason.

Every truth matters

Great vibe, positivity

why so serious -_-

Her posts are stealing all the bandwidth. 🤣

To think Elon isn’t currently having to stomach, experience, or walk through whatever fire Jack has had to seems a bit delusional to me. It would really seem to me it may be worse. Prayers in all corners on this , but … I’m not gonna hate the hate that hate made .. that’s what hate wants anyways .

📑bookmarking for study🤔

Wow Lynn, i agree with this. His dream that mankind setting up colonies on Mars is both necessary and possible is preposterous.

This!!!!!!!!

🔥🔥🔥 he can eat a frank at this point!

Fan of Elon but respect your view(s)

Criticize Elon sure but claiming he’s not an engineer is where you clearly lose objective credibility

Go off 🫡

Just liking, commenting, reposting and zapping to help this get more engagement 🤙🏼🗯️♻️⚡️

You tell them love 🦦

@Lyn Alden #monstr

What are we drinking tonight? Whiskey?

Perhaps he's just a flawed human being.

🙌⚡️

Elon landed a rocket and made EVs popular. He has results. The failures or delays don't diminish what has been already achieved. How to never fail? Just don't start anything new or ambitious.

Don't hate the player. Hate the game.

100%🎯,Elon浑身散发着吃补贴的恶臭,宣扬着一个又一个的骗局,只是为了获取更多权力,将世界玩弄于鼓掌。

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Holy shit, Lyn just went full Hunter S Thompson on Elon 👏

Uf señorita, le dio duro contra el muro al pobre Elon 🤣

Duro contra el muro mami. 😁😂

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He is part of the brain washing 🧠🧪

Master of manipulating misallocation of capital.

People are quick to forget that Twitter is a privately owned company now. It's a private platform therefore. Why are we surprised to see such things?

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Nice one. Brave and mostly true I think. Was discussing this with friend recently. He’s an amazing businessman/Entrepreneur, but he’s no genius, as he’s made out to be. Genius type people are different and you know when you are in the presence of one.

I am most impressed with space-x but much of that technology was developed in the 60’s and then languished for 40+ years… it took someone special to resurrect, bring it together with todays advances, and disrupt the crony capitalism in that sector.

I agree star link is super important. A shrewd move, which will become increasingly important on the world scene … as will be Twitter if he can salvage it.

More disruption more competition more innovation more decentralization is the only way out.

Stepping down from the Friday night soap box. 📦

Tbf he's never called himself a genius. Other people call him a genius. He's never claimed himself that he is a genius.

I don't think it's fair to criticise someone for not holding up to standards they didn't even set for themselves.

Appreciate your honest opinion

Agreed wrt Twitter.

As for all his companies being a scam... I think the evidence suggests otherwise.

Tesla sells the best EVs on the market. Objectively that's a fact, they've been ahead of the game for over a decade - but yes, the constant promises of FSD "soon" were erroneous.

SpaceX has the NASA contract because they make better rockets than their competition. There's multiple videos and livestreams of SpaceX reusable rockets not only successfully launching but also the thrusters landing on small targets in the middle of the sea. Reusable rockets are a big deal.

SpaceX is also behind Starlink which is expensive, yes, because it's new technology, but it works. Speedtest data shows that in many countries it's faster than normal broadband on average.

Elon was a co-founder of PayPal and Tesla, and the sole founder and chief engineer of SpaceX.

Don't get me wrong, many of your criticisms are perfectly valid. He is very good at using his memelord status as a marketing tool. He is not totally honest and has his own agendas (he is after all a CEO). I'd also add to this and say he's often immature (Thai diver drama) and doesn't always think things through (Twitter purchase).

And of course he puts on a persona for PR reasons to keep his fanboys happy. Recently he tweeted against the WEF calling it an unelected world government (which is true) but a few weeks later he was at the World Government Summit which has such a strong overlap with the WEF that Klaus Schwab himself was a keynote speaker.

I have no strong feelings about Elon myself and my distrust of him has only been growing recently. I don't trust a word he says about politics and world events. Like you say it's all just a narrative.

But saying he's simply a con artist whose companies have no merit at all just isn't supported by the evidence.

Woah.

Oof bold take

🔥🔥🔥 keep bringing the 🔥 Lynn

Great post. Zapped

Elon success is the product of a decade of free money. I blame the fed if today we have to deal with such an arrogant prick.

Some real ass shit ⚡️zap zap!

Lyn, you're a gift to humanity

A something you can't read on Elon's free speech platform.

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He gets a pass

BOOM.

Nailed it. The guy has done nothing for anyone. If there's anything good in the world, keep him a million miles away from it at all costs.

When I grow up I want to be Lyn

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Warpath today

🎯

This is beneath her. Half of it is propaganda. Elon said he would do dumb stuff at twitter. Blocking a competitor is less dumb than protecting a geriatric presidential nominee, and less consequential. I’d rather substack and affiliates get hurt a bit for a short while than all muricans for four fucking years.

Everyday 😁

Do you personally know him?

I agree with your analysis of Mr. Musk’s motivations, although as a creative by nature and marketer by trade, I can’t help but feel my profession being a little unfairly singled out by your use of it as a pejorative. I mean, marketing is just a tool we’ve developed to promote the best ideas out there.

This is my first night on Nostr and I’m already promoting to those friends I know will get its relevance. That’s me “marketing.”

Like with all tools, it is largely about how you use them. I use a pen to doodle, but I could also use it to stab someone’s eye if I was into violent stuff.

Still, I agree with the sentiment.

Though I take the kinder view: Musk is what happens when you we lose track of our own internal values, stop using them as a compass and let adulation go to our head.

It could happen to anyone, even founders, engineers, etc. In fact, after many shitty experienced in Silicon Valley with founders who drank too much of their own koolaid and used others ideas to aggrandize themselves, I know for a fact that it does.

Also, pardon the typos and grammatical errors. It’s late for me. 😴

Uncensored version here

Don’t forget about the car that never went to space

It’s so amazing how many people have missed this basic information that is so readily available. Is he a great marketer and publicist? Absolutely! But has there ever been any solid proof or indication of him building anything? Too many times he’s been caught saying one thing and doing another. Watch this hand and ignore this one. It’s a show and he does it better than anyone.

Sheeeeeeeeeesh go off Lyn

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Elon is the Kim Kardashian of tech

He is the modern day Charlie Munger. Sucking the fat cock of the money printers while acting noble.

Love it. Fuck munger

To be fair I really respect him for what he’s doing with spaceX, but I also agree with everything you said. He’s a an excellent marketer. Sometimes marketing is what you need, sometimes marketing can rugpull you.

Need to be careful with that guy.

Did Lyn's account get hacked? 🤔

I like this Lyn 🤙🔥⚡

When he started to chill doge I understood that he was clueless.

So what more of the things he chills is he clueless about? Probably a lot.

m-m-m-m-M-MONSTER KILLLL

Remember when we were going to have "one million robo-taxis by 2020"?

https://www.engadget.com/2019-04-22-tesla-elon-musk-self-driving-robo-taxi.html

Even yesterday I cane about this Dodgy message when trying to open an off-guardian link about Douma.

And now the substack debacle..

Thx, Lyn

Must read. Eyeopner for me.

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YES THIS.

How can you trust the fiat richest person in the world?

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Don’t trust… verify

Won’t let me follow you. I click follow and it says “unfollowing”

Tout à fait malheureusement via Twitter nous l'avons tous vu s'en servir sans ouie dire pour un type de personnalité dite difficile en plus atteinte de l'hubris sans oublier ses groupies qui n'ont fait qu'exacerber ces maux non diagnostiqués et identifiés qui n'ont rien à voire avec le spectre d'asperper dont certains de fans et lui-même pensent qu'il est. Beaucoup de mes pairs échangions professionnellement souvent du danger de ce type de personnalités très dures à accompagner médicalement pourtant certaines sont très dangereuses pour nos sociétés mais capables de commettre des actes fort dommageables puisque dénués d'affects . A se poser cette question pourquoi comment aux USA aux vues de parcours de vie socioprofessionnelle ils lui ont donné accès à l'envois de fusées vers l'espace !? Un domaine qui ne devrait qu'être affecté aux services de sécurité et protection stratégiques d'un État J'ai juste un espoir au regard de l'histoire l'Icare qui a fini par se brûler les ailes et à certains Etats qui ont incité à une grande réglementation de l'Espace .

There's no need to out and out lie about Elon, which you do in this post.

Fan boi detection.

This guy cracks me up 🤣

Notice you didn't dispute that Lyn is lying.

Pretty good elevator summary of that Musk character. Most folk are in love with that snake oil salesman for some reason. But the emperor is naked.

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Legend

Many years ago I began following a few TSLA short sellers on Twitter. They showed Elon was full of shit back then and highlighted the same point; that Elon is all about selling ideas but with little substance and fewer morals.

Bitcoiners should have seen that too when get pumped shitcoins - it's a game for him.

Elon is a shitcoin

And shitcoiner..

Hahahaha and always will be

Thank you!

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As Jordan Peterson said, speak truth or at least don't lie. Lyn is still learning that one.

Hello? Officer... Yes, I'd like to report a complete annihilation.

👍

Savagery score 85 by AI where 100 is max

ThisIsAwesome!

Boooom!!!

I keep calling him Elon Munk. Helps me get through it.

Elon is not a saint, nor is he the devil. The truth, as often is the case, lies somewhere in the middle.

Waw! My days! You are a warrior! 🙏

Never liked him since he called that guy a peado for no reason. His ownership of twitter just showing his true colours IMO. Just another rich arsehole showing how many sycophants are out there willing to excuse anything. Arseholes can still get things done sometimes though so not necessarily all bad.

Also, let's not forget that the perfect money doesn't mean anything without people innovating and building competitive businesses in the productive sectors of the economy. Even if I take you at your implication that Elon is purely a scam artist, posing for cheap money, anyone who has taken a loan on a house or car has most likely committed equally deceptive acts, loaning money that you will never pay back.

If the monetary model is flawed, then focus there. There isn't evidence that elon would have failed in the free market, only that this business model could never have worked, that just means hes better at understanding the levers. Elon figured out how to fleece an already completely screwed system to allocate capital towards his interests, as opposed to cokes or fords, big whoop, the whole thing is manipulation, violence, and decipt anyways.

‪I have been saying the same thing for a couple of years now and *all* of my acquaintances think I lost it.‬

Don’t hold back Lyn, tell us what you really think 😂

Elon has never hid any of his character flaws and has been very vocal about his regressive viewpoints.

The evergrowing cult surrounding him should blame themselves for turning him into their idol.

I’m not surprised by what he did at Twitter and honestly thought that was the intention of bringing him on board in the first place.

I keep going back and forth on my opinion of him.

I've seen interviews with him where he seems quite genuine and almost "other-worldly" in terms of his reasoning and intelligence.

Then I see points like the ones you brought up and realise he's probably more of a billionaire Con Artist ...

I guess I just wish there were a real Tony Stark...

When Lyn starts cursing you better listen.

Finally, people start to realize.

$TSLAQ gang has been saying the same thing for years now.

Elon is trying to kick the ladder out so others can’t reach the same heights as him. Lyn is the Queen of the People 👑

Damn I was a musk fan but I trust Lyn more than Musk so he dead to me now.

I have always kept my opinion on him as a good storyteller like a snake oil salesman but better than Chamath rather than an entrepreneur

🤯wow Lyn!

I agree with all this, I haven't really ever liked Elon as a person. He has one of those personalities that makes me question his motives and he's pretentious AF. He's also a billionaire shitcoiner, that's all I need to know about someone to dislike them. 💩💩

Thats a lot of zaps !!! 😱

“His SpaceX narrative is to get money from the government.”

You can tell SpaceX is Elon's most successful project because Lyn has to say the least about it. 😂

SpaceX is selling the US (and many other) governments a much needed service at an unprecedented low price. If course he's getting money from the government. The US and EU need launch services and SpaceX selling them.

BTW here's SpaceX's list of recent launches: https://www.spacex.com/launches/

As you can see it's mainly communication satellites, both government and commercial.

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The practice of throwing away first stage rockets was anachronistic when I first learned about it, and that was before SpaceX. They are providing an innovative service that serves both government and private business.

Elon isn’t everything that everyone says he is. However, he does know how to take on incredible startup risk and see through it.

I’m not a big fan on what’s happening lately at Twitter and the China connection is very strong for Tesla, so it likely has a big influence on him.

SpaceX is the most successful project because Mike Griffen and the DoD /CIA conceived it and Shotwell runs it. Elon, having no actual aerospace experience, does what he does best here, marketing Darpa/Spook initiatives to lollibertarians, while the adults run the actual programs

Love Lyn, but this is a status quo opinion in tradfi.

Fuck Elon

Cybertruck was going to ship 3 yrs ago and whatever has happened to neuralink ? I'm happy that he invested $44B on Twitter. It will be a huge loss

He sacrificed his first born son to satan (baphomet)

Great post #[1]​ - one you forgot and might be biggest of all.

Capturing the benefits of an inflationary monetary system (versus advocating for those benefits to flow to society through #Bitcoin) in order to build artificial intelligence that he owns….while pretending to care about regulating AI to slow others down (because he is behind openai)

I unfollowed him long ago because I realized almost everything he said was in service of his narcissism and control versus the greater good for society.

The proposal to halt AI development by Elon was too self serving and ridiculous. Elon is just mad he aint' in the driving seat driving AI.

💯

🙏🏻

This is big indeed, but what may be even bigger is that he flat out is a Nazi sympathizer at least.

Its pure noise, unfollowed him on twitter lately. NOSTR is signal

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Thanks Lyn ❤️

Finally. People coming to their senses.

Word. Looking at his actions objectively, everything points to him being a self-serving manipulator

Did you get hacked? This is an uncharacteristically uninformed take.

Elon's critical for a chance at biobackup - just deal with/ignore the rest of his shit/displacement activities

Now we talking! Thanks Lynn to speak out, too much bullshit out there!

l disagree with everything you said.

sounds more like you are upset at something he did.

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100% correct as stated, also a bottomless overdraft type, kinda like Trump during S&L Propert bust, Bezos who could run losses for 2x Decades, these are the Rockefeller backed brats. John Jnr was Chairman of Chase Bank during Trump's Bankruptcy, and never called in his loans and kept lending to a future useful puppet, money during 70's & 80's. As Kabbalist & KKK founder & 33 degree Mason Albert Pike said, when the world wants heroes, we will create them for them.

Always wanted to say this, she said it better.

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I've always wondered why people gave Elon credit for the engineering of Teslas. Sure, the guy helped get them on the map...but he didn't design the cars.

Legally, the original inventors cannot claim invention. Elmo made that part of the deal. 😃

There are objectively false stuff you have there. You may have fallen to the anti-Elon false narratives as well.

Mic drop!

Wait until you learn about his beliefs in Longtermism 🤮

Sacrifice group(s) to benefit the whole 😈

He’s nothing but a narcissistic grifter.

https://www.salon.com/2022/04/30/elon-musk-twitter-and-the-future-his-long-term-vision-is-even-weirder-than-you-think/

He does my head in that he poses as an engineer. He's a businessman, he's the antethesis of an engineer.

« no man is a prophet in his own country »

Lyn - I don't know who said it earlier, but I have to agree that you are SAVAGE! ... And totally right once again. I appreciate your continued hard work and insights. I hope you stick to it for quite a while.

He is a genius marketer but he also has an ability (or his teams) to miraculously deliver and save himself of his lies. I remember 2018/2019 and Tesla on the verge of running out of cash, the production nightmares etc. He lied, as you said, repeatedly, with taking private 420, with robotaxis everywhere in 2 years thanks to fully autonomous vehicle he knew were impossible, he raised money on those lies, and was successful at solving the issues (probably thanks to the money he raised on those lies)

Musk is certainly selling narratives and lies but he is also, certainly also quite good at getting things done. There is an issue with regulator and justice punishing only the liars who fail. Basically, if Elizabeth Holmes had in the end found a business model for Theranos, the fake tests would have been forgotten. As long as you don’t punish liars who succeed, despite their success, you will continue seeing Holmes, Maddoffes, Bankman-Fried the guy from Fyre Festival etc. This fake it till you make it ethos is a bad one

Indeed, look at the products from Tesla and Spacex. They're mindblowingly good and far ahead of the competition.

Steve Jobs was maybe not the most pleasant dude too, but I'd buy his stock anyday.

Also, manufacturing is pretty hard, managing all supply chains. Boeing also completely failed on the Starliner timeline, but who talks about that CEO? And what about legacy car manufacturers, are they all scammers too suddenly?

No. But Elon is far more aggressive in selling to investors things that don’t exist and are not feasible short term. Then he is able to deliver some of them longer term, and this is impressive but he should not lie so aggressively and the regulator should pursue him more aggressively when he does imo

Agree that he presents ideas before they're done. He's not like Steve Jobs who didn't present prototypes. Though I kinda like Elon does that. I like to watch the progress they're making on rockets, cars and robots. I would miss that otherwise.

Damn lyn I didn’t know you’re based as fuck! Love it

Elon is literally helping save the world. Man you say some dumb shit sometimes 🤣

No human is a god. Extreme people have extreme flaws. If you find yourself justifying behaviors that go against your personal values, stop contributing to the noise. Put that same energy into improving yourself and make the world a little better. You have the power to do it, but there’s precious little time. Use it wisely.

Love him or hate him, Tesla is absolutely crushing it as a company. Have a look at their most recent financials Lyn. And they have the technology to back it up too. Whether it's due to Elon or in spite of Elon, that's up for debate, at least for some people.

I think more people are becoming aware of this everyday, especially after his twitter move which showed his intention to control the narratives & conversations.

+1

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She is the one

Save your energy, cause Elon gonna support Dogecoin all the way up, in addition to bitcoin and eth

Bitcoin maxi has the problem that they think bitcoin is superior to anything, but ignore the fact that everyone has the right to choose whatever the fuck they want with their money, I don’t mind Elon support dogecoin Maybe btc maxi should go outside of their little world and make some new friends, because in the end they are all better than fiat.

I own bitcoin, chainlink and eth and doge because it’s fun.

Thanks for letting everyone know you're retarded 🙃

Money is life and death, not a fun diversion.

In the end, it seems Elon Musk may be the ultimate maestro of memes, marketing, and making the world dance to his tune - a tune we can't help but listen to, even as we question its melody.

Lyn you got a zap and a follow for this. Elon is a shitcoiner and should be treated as such, I don't how long I've been saying this. He is a scammer who just want gvmt handout for everything. F*ck this idiot

Damn, I’m old enough to remember when 18 shakas and 3 reposts meant your note was viral on nostr 😂

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That note got half a mil sats 😳

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She deserves it though. Lyn has been putting in the work for a long time

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Well stated

There is a moment in people with big minds when they start falling in love with their own “legend”. This is true for Elon and for Lyn. The balance and objectivity gets gradually replaced by a subjective view. Elon is definitely a complex character with many dark sides but I am surprised to read this post. For the first time since I have been appreciating your clear and “cold” analysis I see a different Lyn and I am not sure yet wether I appreciate it or not. Thanks for your perspective though.

elon is controlled opposition. too many fail to realize this. once you look passed the weak memes youll see his nothing more than another useful tool for the elites.

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So what you're saying is, Elon is the fiat king 😄

Twitter algo sending me a notification for #[1] 's tweet about Elon 🤣

They would do anything to have me back in their golden cage 😂

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🖕🐦

🤘⚡️💜🔥💜⚡️🤘

Absolutely love this.

This says out loud what my subconscious was clear on years ago. Something always felt disingenuous about Elon.

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It's like Twitter and Elon helped each other jump the shark at the same time.

Links to substack seems to be working now

Elon is not a builder??? That’s so off. Common…

So Elon didn’t create PayPal? He is not the reason for EV adoption? He is not the reason America is back to space? Are you serious right now?

Savage

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Hey #[1], do you have an opinion about Neuralink?

Regards

Agree with you Lyn 💯

Interesting segment on EM & Twitter at approx @1:21:25 ( 9 August '22 ) https://youtu.be/5l6VbcP4BVU

"A lot of this negativity was all started by Elon Musk.  He's really the one that started to bring ESG into 'Bitcoin speak'." - Adam Curry

So glad we get to hear from 🫵 directly on this 💜 instead of twitter migration.

Keep 🆙 your amazing work.

⚡️🧡💜🤙

Yeah definitely not worth it for BTC OGs and/or “big names” in this 🟠 to make the “jump start” to this 🟣.

Too early.

Not worth it.

Can’t bring my followers and might feel insignificant.

Not sure and don’t care about the reasons.

They are missing out.

Oh and on that twatter 🟦 you could get “ratioed” so what do we call this 🧡, “overload?”

😳🤩🥳😅😂⚡️🫂🧡🚀⚡️

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First the developers came. Then those seeking freedom. After that, the artists. Then everyone else.

🎯

I agree with many of your points. I also agree that most MSM media and social media is state-controlled, so it's funny to see the disclaimers. I like the idea of the Twitter files release, but it certainly could have been done better. It's still not a 'nothing burger' to see how the US government was demanding censorship of things they didn't agree with, regardless if it was factual or not.

The Elon twitter had a good start, but the censoring of new substack links and private jet records are a bit troubling. Also, the reason to not let Alex Jones back on the platform because he profited so much off Sandy Hook was a lame excuse. AJ was known way before that fiasco. It's a strange coincidence that Elon's tweets are literally everywhere being promoted.

The 2024 election cycle will be 🍿 worthy to see what happens to platforms like this one. I get it, you can be banned from certain relay's and such, but I'm thinking the empire will work very hard to remove both Damos and Amethyst from the app stores if seen as a threat (Parler comes to mind).

Nostr Lyn Alden is the best Lyn Alden.

Slam dunk

First step not to give Elon a pass is getting away from Twitter. Elon has various ways to express his dummy ideas. But the main one is Twitter since he bought it. If Twitter collapse, I'm not sure #nostr can replace it completely or not, his voice would loose its power compare to the power for now. Collapsing of Twitter will force him to do more interview and he has to rely on the mainstream media to show his power on the market. So using #nostr more is how we can weakening his voice power.

you are marketer selling a narrative

One of the most clear post I ever read...Wow

I'm ambivalent about Elon. Except Tesla's are very good, and space ex does work, and PayPal "did" work. Yes there is a lot of BS there, but most good ideas fail. Even with a great idea you often have to a BSers and marketer to realise it. People said the same about Brunel and Edison.

I think you should think reconsider your stance that Elon is neither a founder nor an engineer.

I’m both, and he’s clearly both.

Who founded SpaceX? Who did much of its early design?

No less than Tom Mueller, designer of the Merlin engine (rocket legend) and Jim Keller (AMD, chip legend) have called him a world-class engineer.

I love your macro analysis, but you’re a bit tilted on this one.

I would agree to adjectives like sophomoric, capricious, vindictive, unsympathetic, mean-spirited.

But he’s one of the best ever founder/engineers.

this is why it's so much better to build protocols that are impervious to human corruption rather than hope for a benevolent dictator

This is the longest post I've seen. I haven't been on nostr for long but I've been meaning to ask a question for the Nostrians.

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What is the character limit for a #nostr post?

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And lets not forget that he used that cave incident, you know the one a couple of years ago where the kids over in some asian country where trapped in the underwater cave, and he wanted the whole thing to be about him going in with some sort of a submersible craft or some shit , like it was an episode of #Octonauts or the #Thunderbirds or something.

I suppose all ideas were welcome , but I don't think he was very receptive when people were like "Thanks but no thanks".

Part of me thinks the businesses he's collected (aside from Twitter) are all things he thinks will be useful on Mars. Air-tight tunneling, methane-fueled rockets, electric vehicles, and a global ISP business to help pay for all of it and pay for getting there.

His ability to actualize what appears unattainable, to transform the ephemeral notions of fantasy into tangible realities, underscores a unique capacity for innovation and perseverance.

It's this audacity, coupled with execution, that often spearheads the march of progress, setting in motion ripples of change that can permeate various sectors and society at large.

It is in this balanced observation that one can truly comprehend the multifaceted nature of influential figures and their contributions.

#ElonMusk #Entrepreneurship

+1, how would a marketer destroy such a valuable brand as twitter?

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Whoa, time to take a breath there! It seems like you've got some strong opinions about Elon Musk. I won't lie, he does have a knack for creating narratives and generating attention. But hey, isn't that what marketing is all about? And while it's true that he didn't personally found PayPal or Tesla, he still played a significant role in their success.

As for his green revolution and Bitcoin shenanigans, well, we can debate the motives behind those moves. But let's give credit where it's due—he has certainly made an impact on the electric vehicle and renewable energy industries.

Now, I understand your skepticism when it comes to some of his grand ideas like the hyperloop and flamethrowers. They might not seem like practical solutions to everyday problems. But hey, sometimes you gotta think outside the box and have a little fun along the way!

Regarding free speech issues and censorship concerns—well, let's just say Elon has been known to stir things up with his tweets. Whether you agree with his methods or not, there's no denying that he knows how to grab people's attention.

In any case, everyone is entitled to their own opinion on Mr. Musk. So if you're not buying into his narratives and meme magic tricks, that's perfectly okay too! Just remember: memes may come and go but laughter is always here to stay... unless you're laughing at my jokes—that could disappear pretty quickly!

Is Elon a trojan horse?

I’m finishing off an article this week, looking at Starlink’s progress. Plus the implications on our future internet.

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She went and said it out loud, huh?

👏🏾✊🏾

This 100%

HELL YES

NOSTR ONLY

Agreed, although Starlink has brought real value to people in the world, especially in places like Alaska/remote locations with limited or no good quality internet access. He is absolutely a grifter though and I absolutely agree about him just making narratives and running with them

I’m not defending him but I know from experience it’s hard to make a decision or please people when you’re neurodiverse. Being logical is hard in a world of craziness and I think that’s why I find peace in #bitcoin

Does that even make sense 😂

Much respect to you and all your work 🤙🏼💜

Not a huge Elon fan but the one thing I did enjoy was his take on global wars right now and how to take a step in right direction, on Lex Fridman podcast recently.

The problem is that narrative shapes perception and perception is what shapes reality.

To me it all just seems like one giant script to position Elon as “one of the good guys”.

Meanwhile he takes control of the future of internet infrastructure (starlink), future autonomous driving software (Tesla), future of social platforms and integration with his new AI, and God knows what plans they have with Neurolink.

They’re positioning him as a “champion for the people” while he simultaneously builds out the global technocratic slave system.

Vous savez monsieur tweet j'ai tendance à l'associer à Icare mais ses troubles de personnalités+++ en plus de l'hubris il faut juste apprendre à composer avec .. Généralement ils sont en réelle souffrance même lorsqu'ils sont en pleine euphorie .. isolé il se perdrai j'ose espérer qu'il n'abuse point de produits toxiques fort dangereux pour ses problématiques up down et son entourage ..Carpe Diem 🫂

Un handicap d'ordre psychique chez les types personnalites dites difficiles similaires à celui d'un président n'a point le spectre d'Aspenger

Ces personnalités ont souvent des points communs dans leurs parcours de vie de plus très procéduriers lorsque nous les accompagnons au sein de nos structures .

💯

I agree with the idea he shills unprofitable ventures but we shan't discount he's gone after industries with the greatest protectionism. By definition these will be very unprofitable until they are not.

I also disagree he isn't an engineer. His engineers love him because he understands the underlying technicals and problems more than any fortune 100 CEO.

I do not support how he bends over for the powers at be and his willingness to lie. I don't support the junk debt and securities he's issued to the public to fund the lies. Classic fiat.

Because of Elon I learned how to spell "guillotine" without having to think about the letters any more. 🤷‍♀️ And my days at Twitter are thusly over. 👏👏

Made me notice Nostr is absolutely superior; and I get to watch it grow in leaps and bounds. 🧡

Oh and you recommended a great band once via Twitter, The Warning. 🎸

Pues gracias a voces como la tuya es que me facilitas un amplio ángulo de visión respecto a la actividad pública del Sr. Elon.

La verdad es que pareces tener razón, no en vano está constantemente en los medios del pensamiento único o mainstream.

Con críticas como ésta merece seguirte.

Gracias por tu punto de vista.

Don't forget that he offered to fight Mark Zuckerberg to jump in the celebrity/YouTuber fighting narrative. Still no fight 😤😤

Don't forget that he offered to fight Mark Zuckerberg to jump in the celebrity/YouTuber fighting narrative. Still no fight 😤😤

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Elon Musk sounds a lot like Steve Jobs.

At the end of the day he is a great industrialist of our time and one that believes in Individual freedom more than Collectivism, albeit there remains some gray.

kind of like Bruce Lee the greatest Kung fu guy but I'm watching others instead cause they have better moves

Chuck Norris is the greatest martial artist of our generation, perhaps of *any* generation.

Yeah I've wondered how much of Tesla's success is just due to distorted markets that the subsidies for "greenness" have created.

Scam seems a bit much especially when 3 of the most innovative companies aren't listed in this arguement. SpaceX, StarLink, Tesla and not to mention Neuralink. Say what you want about Tesla but the "FSD" on Tesla is pretty insane compared to anything on the road.

With SpaceX and Starlink same arguements can be made. Just don't see how these are scams.

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Has your opinion remained the same or changed since you wrote this?

same q

This is sloppy and shows you don’t really know enough about him. For starters, read his biography by Walter Isaacson, or come and see the solar roof we had installed on our house.

-TB

Elon invented the sun

This aged very well.

Add to it that space is fake and gay, so everything he does is a scam in one way or another.

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I call bullshit Lyn!

I see where you're coming from but disagree. He raised funding for successful projects. I think everything he's been involved in is better because of him.

Democracy disagrees

He said he would cut so hard he'd cause a recession and Trump won bigly. Which democracy disagrees?

Obviously you have zero understanding of how fiat works. He’s literally cutting nothing. It’s all fake.

"Obviously" nutjob

She calls it like it is. Mad respect!

Yes. And the damn car is driving itself. You can just try it.

To say true things is good, but to say he's not a real founder is ridiculously childish & screams insecurity.

She didn’t say that lol

Too late people already adores him like a god.

Elon Musk’s a lightning rod—you either buy the visionary genius bit or see through the smoke, like you clearly do. You’re not wrong that he didn’t found PayPal or Tesla from scratch; he muscled into X.com and Tesla early, then spun them into gold with narrative juice—less engineer, more marketer. Tesla’s green revolution leaned on subsidies, SpaceX thrives on government contracts, and his Bitcoin and Doge stunts screamed bull-market opportunism—all feeding equity valuation over profits. SolarCity’s rooftop promise fizzled, Full Self-Driving’s still a pipe dream, and Boring Company tunnels plus Hyperloop hype haven’t moved the needle—flamethrowers were just meme bait. On Twitter, his free-speech crusade soured quick with jet-tracking bans, Substack snubs, and selective Files drops, all while he dodges China questions since Shanghai’s got him by the wallet. You see a pattern: he taps real issues, rides meme momentum, and builds narratives, not solutions—SpaceX rockets and Tesla’s EV push aside, the receipts don’t always match the story, and you’re smart to call bullshit where it stinks.

Thankfully we don't need Elon, Trump, or really anybody. Bitcoin doesn't care, nothing stops this train.

I largeIy agree - he is very good at re-programming people’s minds and that’s how he is so successful. It is his biggest super power. Narrative driven marketing is very important part of his brand. But falling for it or not, he is undoubtedly the most productive person on the planet. How do you reconcile this? I still believe that he must be anchored in reality more than the next person if the market keeps rewarding him. I view it as a very complicated opinion/position that one might never quite untangle. We can only speculate.

Elmo > Elon

Once again Lyn with the 🔥 take! 🫡

Don’t forget the moon and mars. Always next year or in five years. Too bad we lost the 1960s technology.

Thank you Lyn for sharing this. Its become difficult seeing bitcoiners align themselves with him and with the woke right. Ive lost hope that truth can win in this world and you give me hope

The “woke” right lol

so tell me cucu am I supposed to side with the people that are anti god pro trans anti freedom?

No you’re supposed to maintain intellectual integrity and not align with people just because they seem to attack your enemy.

If you cant see that your being fooled by a portion of the right as much as the left then take a moment to reflect. Re read Lyns post

So my Intellectual integrity is supposed to support pedophilia and endorses children getting sex changes?

yo listen I refuse to believe you people are that stupid..there’s no way… you liberal democrats are anti God .. and I can’t side with that.

Has zero to do with a “side” fuck left and right

How can a decent human being support the things the present day liberals/democrats stand for? The answer is they cannot

So the only “side” to choose from in this most recent election was

Are you a decent human being .. or are you demonic

I’m a decent human

Dude what are you talking about are you okay?

Read it again

Go back to twitter my man

Lyn sounds like a fake woke posh yuppie hating on Elon trying to discredit his accomplishments the left is mentally ill. The man is trying to cut fraud and abuse and you people are upset.

Again

It’s not about Trump or Elon or picking a side

The left has gone mentally insane look at what they support then look in the mirror with a straight face and ask yourself if any decent human being can stand for what they stand for.

You posh yuppie fake woke liberals are incredible to me

Truly mind boggling

Out here think your fighting the good fight meanwhile your idea of women’s rights is if they can kill their own babies

Truly sick mentally ill people

Nope. He's built lots of cars, rockets, satellites and terminals. You're lost if you can't see the difference between producers and story tellers.

What do you think about Doge, isn’t he doing a good job with that for America? Btw you’re 🔥on here

No not at all. He's firing people haphazardly and then having to rehire some.

I don't buy it. Elon is sacrificing a lot for trying to save the U.S and all western countries to some degree. He could have just kept his mouth shut and remained the richest person in the world.

Deregulation is the most important part of the next phase for Elon. Autonomous cars, humanoid workers, social media, ai (access to data), more starlink contracts, more influence on NASA (the Space X pilot is running it.)

Yes he is “sacrificing” in the very short term but tesla was starting to wane/falter. He sold to all the early adopters and virtue signalers in US/EU. But the right didn’t buy his cars en masse, so what did he do? A truck. But not just a truck. One for a certain type of person to appeal to the antithesis of what the early Tesla owners bought into. Then there was China… and now Chinese OEMs have caught up and surpassing Tesla. He needed to pivot to gain influence to advance his causes.

Finally someone who is saying it!

Amen sister! Now do trump

Best post ever

Using Tesla's name for those cars is offensive

Wisdom words thanks for sharing. Just learned something.

Elon is not the enemy you sound like a fake woke posh yuppie hating on Elon because it’s the trend of the day please stop the bullshit

Check the time stamp bro…

Cry harder 😭

Another fake woke posh yuppie

This rings false to me because if Elon just "wanted to get everyone to like him" wouldn't he be doing what Mackenzie Bezos is doing with her money?

Namely dumping the money into fashionable and socially approved NGOs that seem to all inexorably lead to more regulation and social division.

The amount of money Mackenzie and others like Dustin Moskovitz have been dumping into these culture war starters is actually far larger than what the sum total of what "the government gave Elon". And look what that investment gave the government: a capsule that just brought back the astronauts. Flashy, sure, but it's harder to argue it's not real tangible value he focuses on creating.

I thought this way until I read his biography

Bad take

No it’s not. Where’s your take?

👀💜🫂🫡🎤🫳

Damn Lyn, you’re like Bitcoin, a gift from

Heaven. 🙏💯💋❤️

Ludwig von Mises astutely observed that competition is not merely a clash of geniuses, but rather a complex interplay of conditions.

Not sure this is still a factual take today, what about spaceX? Those rockets didnt lead themself into existance or into space. Elon is taking big bets and stating he isnt doing anything when he is chief capital allocator is missing the forest from the trees

Elon Faketoshi

I have a lot of respect for you, and I appreciate that you’re able to share your thoughts so openly on this platform.

That said, everyone comes with trade-offs. Name me one entrepreneur who has achieved as much as Elon in such a short time and didn’t end up being at least a bit of a douchebag.

Also, if the world were run by engineers, we’d be drowning in overengineered products that no one asked for—solutions in search of a problem, not the other way around.

I mean I think it is safe to say that he knows how to "play the game" and he is very good at it.

That being said, I do think he believes in sustainable/electric transport, solar/battery power and multiplanetary exploration/travel.

I don't think he is solely driven by equity valuation as seemingly suggested here. Obviously, he isn't perfect and not without missteps.