TF? 3.5 hours and ~$200 per trip to get from Miami to Orlando?

Who is going to do that, that’s practically the same time it takes to drive and it costs maybe $50-70 in gas to get *there and back.* 🤨 nostr:note1g0juc5enw33etv6a9cu59ax3ysljj6dk6wlkftpvpx0kjwpzjq8qjt0tx7

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If I can work and get paid for it while I am in the train… most of the people I know that use trains use it for that reasons, they can work while commuting.

That’s the one thing that I can see remains a differentiator. Having the time of the travel to yourself and not needing to focus on driving. But that’s still, imo, stretching the value to its absolute limits. A $400-500 round trip is ridiculous, imo. Maybe more infra down the road will improve this somehow.

It is expensive, even by Swiss standards. Money, most people get only the smell of it, some « live » near the faucet

It says the "round trip" is ~&150-300. So half that for one way.

OH! that’s actually substantially better than what I thought. Should’ve read closer

A local told me that at one point, Brightline was offering free shuttles (in a Tesla) from the train station to your destination (within some predefined radius) for trips between west palm beach and Miami.

So it's convenient if you're visiting family or someone with a car at your destination.... otherwise, you're stuck ubering everywhere at your destination.

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So driverless cars will most likely kill all demand for passenger rail... Good

Not everyone has a car and the bus takes longer

How much does a bus cost on the same route? Anyone know?

Just looked it up. Between $42-$74 one way.

Your car will be illegal soon. Then the ride will be 400 bucks.

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Price of trains in the US is ridiculous

+ you have to wait on their schedule, and pay a cab or Uber for everywhere else you want to go.

The competition is not driving. The competition is a public bus and Uber/Lyft

Also, traffic

Sure, but if traffic was being properly competed against, the trip would be half the time.

Listen I’d love the idea of high speed trains infra to build out for better travel options. I’d be stoked. The train I took across Switzerland was crazy fast, much lower cost than alternatives, stupid quiet, and really comfortable. I’d love to have that here! But according to the stated claims of this train, this thing is probably going to go bankrupt almost immediately if this is the best price/service they can provide.

Wow. That’s like my frustration with the Boston to NYC Amtrak. More expensive than a flight, shitty quality, and the ā€œhighspeedā€ business train is even more expensive. It’s all pathetic

In the US, rail lacks the network infrastructure (and therefore all the demand patterns) that would place greater downward pressure on costs.

High speed rail in the US is fundamentally a margin business today that will compete on convenience - rather than cost with air travel, not cars or busses. Conversely, rail in Europe, China, Japan etc. are all volume businesses, heavily networked and optimized for broad mass transportation at low cost to the rider. And they are likely subsidized to the same or greater extent that cars and oil are subsidized in the US.

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People without a car.

I guess there’s a far greater likelihood of that for people who live in the heart of the city. Still seems way overpriced, but maybe they will have the volume needed to keep this from going bankrupt.

Ever been to Germany?

Pls don't try the railways here.

The'll rob you and you'll end up late at a place you didn't want to go.

I'm still wondering how this company can exist.

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A better comparison is a taxi/uber unless you value your time behind the wheel of a car at $0.

125 mph for 3.5 hours and then be only 30 minutes faster than a car? How?

I guessing there are stops in between.

Yeah that confuses me too

I don't see anyone doing it regularly, but I could see someone wanting the down time to read or work or something instead of paying attention driving. If you can get enough other things done while just sitting on the train, it could be worth it. I agree that most people won't do it, especially a big family. It may be worthwhile when one person is traveling, but it is hard to justify when you have a family of 4 or more.

Averaging 67 mph… ā€œhigh-speedā€ā€¦

Agenda 2030, they don’t want us to have cars and to live in only cities

What would rural area be used for I wonder?

The elitist playground and factory farm food production, toxic runoff from the major cities also

Sounds like a movie ive watched. Cant remember the name.

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At least the train looks decent and modern.

This for when your electric car catches on fire āœ…

And if you add in the time to park and go through whatever 'security checkpoint' they are going to have, there won't be any time savings. Not to mention having no flexibility in your schedule.