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Statism, in general, causes it
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my tax dollars at work :(
The ceilings can’t stay intact in case of use of bombs; looks like it was demolished.
I would love to know if people are successfully using this as a way to not pay taxes, even taking it all the way to court and succeeding with it.
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Ugh! This god forsaken gubment does not represent me. I’m an American and not a fan of this USA.
May A Chinese user say that China support these weapon also in Gasa ,may be China NORINCO. Also in ukraine,China support Russia with weapons,drones,digital Industry and backups,also medical aissistance,Also Gas ,oli,Import economy support. We don't understand why our government of P.R.China do these?Can you understand,anyone knows?
So that their enemies will destroy themselves?
tax dollars at work
Gaza?
To Lockeed Martin like it. :V
the war ended, the politicians shook hands, and the military-industrial complex made a lot of money. but only mothers are burying their children.
war is a faster means of robbing people of their wealth than taxation.
politicians love war.
Corruption occurs whenever the entity making the purchasing decision doesn’t have to pay for the purchase. This has always been true.
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I think the only way out of this trap, besides taking away the printer, which solves the funding side but not the security side, is to have a population of strong fighters and supporters organized as militias.
Bitcoin can solve the problem of printing money. Nostr can solve the problem of thought control. This can make the government return to its original job. What we can do is to give people the power back to themselves.
That's what I'm saying. Security needs to be provided by someone though, and that's where it gets complicated.
The government's job is to protect the safety of citizens. It's just that now those greedy politicians use the fear and threat of war to gain power and plunder people's wealth.
The gov job is to protect territorial integrity and sovereignty. Internal security is another matter. Would it not be better if everyone could defend themselves and their property? Any arrangements after that are made on a local basis.
Stop USA from funding Israel = No more war in middle east
Stop USA from funding Ukraine = No more war in Europe 
Maybe every war in history of the world its because of US and FED? How do you think? maybe the Mongol-Tatar invasion in the 12th century was also because of the U.S.?
I hope someone is paying you for this hahahaha. Bro. Wrong crowd. Nostr doesn't like murder apologists
Oh interesting, I'm a murder apologist? can you explain how you came to this conclusion?
is there any such thing as a just war?
Yes
OK then let me explain. Murder apologist is someone who justifies war. That is what you are. There is sometimes an imperative but that is not justification. War is the ritualized and industrialiized slaughter of humans. Do you not grok?
How is an imperative not a justification?
ok am gonna assume you are sincere in wanting to know the difference.
1. Imperative: In this context, an imperative means something is necessary or unavoidable due to circumstances (e.g., self-defense, protection of innocent lives). This doesn't necessarily imply moral approval or justification for war.
2. Justification: Justifying war implies that the act of waging war is morally acceptable, which can be problematic. War often leads to significant human suffering, and it's essential to question whether the ends (whatever they might be) justify the means.
If I am forced to kill then I will. That is different than saying it was right.
So protecting innocent life is not morally justified?
you are playing word games now i think but I will try one last time in case you really dont get it.
avoid war if you want to protect the max number of human lives fren. Life is the ultimate aim. Life and thriving. We need to cheer that.
What if a war would kill 100k but would save 1m in the long run? What if it kills 1 innocent for every 10 innocents it saves? I just don't get why you have to simply something that is notoriously complicated.
it is not complicated.
You described an imperative. That does not mean we should glory in or assign moral rectitude to the ritualized (rules of war) mass slaughter of human beings.
This is not some deep philosophy. Life is good. Death is bad. Avoid war. Dont call for it if you are not ready to die in it. this is very simple.
People can't do the kind of math you're talking about because we don't know the future. You can't say this will save 900K lives. The world would be a better place if governments weren't in the business of industrialised, ritualised killing of poor people to make the rich richer, aka war.
You should read Machiavelli. It's instructive. Here is an exerpt that deals with this from the pragmatic prince perspective but makes it clear that it is wrong.
And it must be understood that a ruler, and especially a new ruler, cannot always act in ways that are considered good because, in order to maintain his power, he is often forced to act treacherously, ruthlessly or inhumanely, and disregard the precepts of religion. Hence, he must be prepared to vary his conduct as the winds of fortune and changing circumstances constrain him and, as I said before, not deviate from right conduct if possible, but be capable of entering upon the path of wrongdoing when this becomes necessary. (Machiavelli, 1988: 62)
Think of it like this: While an imperative acknowledges the necessity of a particular action, justification implies moral acceptance or approval. There's no moral justification for mass ritualized murder; however, recognizing an imperative doesn't necessarily mean you condone or justify war.
It changes how you address, approach and regard it. Cheerleading is frivolous froth or dangerous goading when the war gods come. The first time you hear a mortar incoming will change your perspective or make you a demon. we unfortunately may find out soon if the cheerleading continues.
war should be faced and contemplated by those who are prepared to die. It makes wars more scarce and aggression more difficult to fund.
Stop USA from funding Israel = No more Israel
Stop USA from funding Ukraine = No more Ukraine
Sometimes I wish women ruled the world..
Sure we’d be cat fighting more, but probably no bombing..
Is this Palestine? This entire situation is heartbreaking 💔. The Israeli Jews are executing the bombings and the USA will be blamed for the Jews’ violence. A never ending cycle of terrorism between moslems and jews
Mainly it's just Israel and US bombing everybody
Ouch
Would have been great if RFK was opposing that as much as he opposes the war in Ukraine... I still think he is by far the best option, but man, that is his achilles heel imo...
For all the anti-semites here, Israel has only ever wanted to co-exist amongst its neighbors. Israel has always sought Peace. Don't confuse defending yourself from annihilation with overt aggression and conquest.
The recent invocation of Mill is quite apropos...
“War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing worth a war, is worse. A man who has nothing which he cares about more than he does about his personal safety is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the existing of better men than himself.”
― John Stuart Mill
good words.
yah idf is killing a lot of semites bro. dont twist words. nostr is a more educated crowd and many of us know the history of the region better than you ever will. we know the difference between a murderous regime and a semite. Also. I think you are trying to conflate israel and Judaism, semite and Jew. This is a basic bitch argumentation technique that would get you tossed from 6th grade debate club. I think you know that it is dishonest as well which is even more offensive.
Be better or if someone is paying you to do this thenbe better at your job. rn your arguments are weak and your delivery is trite.
You are defending mass murder. That is disgusting. We see you. We wont forget the murder cheerleaders. You are tainting your life and your family name. The repercussions of that sin will haunt your family for generations. I don't think you understand what you are toying with.
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Israel has always wanted ethnic cleansing of palestine. There's no point otherwise.
You are supporting genocide and the world is waking up.
and, lol, it's "anti-semitic" to have any sort of a problem with killing women and children
If they wanted to co-exist, they could have just migrated to Palestine without creating their own state.
Churlish.
Countries don't exist.
They're only an idea in the minds of human beings.
The real war is class war. A wealthy powerful minority (eg forming fascist corporation/governments or communist government/corps - they both amount to the same thing) against other wealthy powerful minorities, and against their own populations. Rulers control the populations that would otherwise kill them by focusing their attention on another ruler/population to go an kill them.
Psyop mind control.
That said, now I'm going to contradict myself and say - classes do not exist except in the minds of human beings...
hahaha right on bro. dope rant. the thing is though that what we call reality is to a large extent a shared delusion. We cant even percieve most of what is going on around it. we all agreed on some abstraction that our minds can handle so . . . its all made up bro.
Parfaitement et puis historiquement puis les empires européens y sont beaucoup de par leurs multiples conquêtes à travers le globe
C'est L'humain Darwinien avec toutes ses failles plus dantesques sociologiquement pour ainsi dire .
you are a genocide supporter, you support the mass killing of babies and children in ghaza.
Rien à voir avec les Israéliens c'est plus Bibi qu'il faudrait condamner il est resté aux temps de l'Intifada, idem que Putin même type de personnalité qui a une grille de lecture de l'erreur soviet durant la WW2 mondiale vis à vis des *alliés.. d'ailleurs il a toujours martelé qu'on ne peut être un ex du KGB on demeure soldat du KGB sous le regard de tous les dirigeants qu'il a dû côtoyer depuis qu'il a intégré l'armée de l'URSS. a une rancoeur de tous les précédents leaders soviets depuis la WW2
Historique cette terre se nomme la Palestine mais depuis les actes incommensurables sur la diaspora de confusion juive sous le regard des dirigeants européens, pour se dédouaner ils ont dû opter pour ce territoire des 3 religions monothéistes....les conséquences nous les payons depuis lors...
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Which ones should I buy?
sustainable war
I still remember the "humanitarian bombing" of Serbia 20 years ago.
There’s so many people who defend the nuking of Japanese cities because ‘it ended the war’
Its like saying "I slapped my wife but it ended the argument" or "yes I did stab him but it ended the confrontation".
The people are lost bro. I'm a scared for them ngl
Vécu avec tous les retentissements sur les civils vivants aujourd'hui dans la diaspora pourtant des gens très attachés à leur histoire et pays ..que de petites humaines indignes de l'être humain géopolitiquement abjecte cette période de l'histoire européenne
It was for the children!!
Where is this happened?
They only brought democracy.
By st*pid people...
Fascinating how USA always finds the next rightful war to sell weapons into
fuck you very much USA
What else 😔
You should have posted a picture of a gangraped israeli and write "payed for by Qatar" to be fair, as it happened first
More accurately, by US fiat currency.
bad, but true
