Make babies, without babies everything you are doing is kind of pointless.

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Not necessarily. But I get your point.

Yes necessarily

I bet you know plenty of people who shouldn’t have babies.

I think it hinges on whether you have hope or not. I have hope > I have babies.

Having babies is also different from RAISING CHILDREN!

I have hope which means I frame difficulties as challenges rather than threats.

Good outlook. 💜🫂👊

Not everyone has to have biological children. Some people biologically can’t. One can still find meaning & purpose without creating biological life. Adoption is virtuous as well. The world is not black & white.

Agree

this is a high time preference take

Why make the world better if population is declining where you live? Humanity ends...

On the dark side of the moon we take care of all the unwanted babies humans produced.

Many are addicted to drugs, media manipulation and more. But you humans keep producing unwanted children.

Cartoonish people get Loony Tunes and more.

Because humanity isn’t ending. The world is overpopulated as it is. Sounds like a Nazi takeover attempt.

Cartoon characters can read. Can a bunch of dots? Are you code? 👩🏻‍💻

I don’t follow

Babies are def low time preference. You have to invest a lot of time, energy and love over a long period of time.

I’m listening

Made. But I bet Satoshi never made babies, so disagree with “pointless.”

You got babies? If you didn’t, I have babies that might one day hold a cold card. That wasn’t pointless.

Yes

Also I hear the process is really fun ❤️‍🔥

As I was growing up, I never realised that the most terrifying thing about my "forties" would be dealing with childless adults.

It is without a question the most baneful demo in our society.

In what way?

“The future belongs to those who show up.”

Made two. Would recommend.

Fired a bullet at the halving party.

My first bitcoin arrives Jan 3 ☺️

Congrats! Nothing more beautiful.

Bitcoin baby!

And it’s a girl! ☺️

👏🧡💜🚀

Congratulations

There are exceptions, but they are few. Often left for the very few who manage to over achieve outside of the human population count duties.

Over 10% of women are not able to conceive. That’s not a “few” exceptions, that’s 9.7 million women in the United States alone.

That's very unfortunate, but nature is neither fair nor kind.

On the other hand, having my first kid after losing a testicle to cancer, I felt blessed by redundancy in nature.

Nature stacks the deck on this mayer

Amazing for you! Unlikely for me 🤷‍♀️, but I’m a phenomenal “aunt”

We could all use more aunties in our lives

Somebody’s gotta babysit 🤷‍♀️

Yes please our nanny quit.

Neither are you for telling people

They must make babies

Your lack of consideration

Noted

Someone was asking my preference stack.

Goal number one is not getting extinct. Second is providing for your lineage.

Third yourself.

Bleh

If these are your priorities

out of the entire grandeur of creation,

you have no fucking perspective.

You know humans end if we don't do better than what we are doing now right?

What does your missus think about you posting while making babies? Sounds like you’re doing it wrong.

😂🤣

If we stop cockblocking and being erotophobic we would have plenty.

If people are motivated and culturally pushed, the sexual preference is irrelevant to reproduction

It’s the only real way to change the world.

Next step! Nvk, let’s start a private school. Not your curriculum, not your kids.

I can help with that. I used to teach at a private school.

What would you do differently for curriculum

Basic curriculum necessary to be a functioning adult remains similar, but perhaps the method can be improved: I have many ideas if interested, but didn’t want to go full rant here (I see many potential parallels with open source).

The biggest change is not to push inorganic agendas that homogenize and weaken human resilience: Sorry, no Bitcoin national anthem either. Our kids are with other people for 7 hours a day, this is massive power when it comes to the future of humanity, and we need to fix it.

Have just recently reloaded the over. Incoming feb 25

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Or don’t. Lots of us are very happy without.

Reread the allegory of Plato’s Cave.

“Lots of us are happy looking at shadows on the wall”

Please don't make babies if you can't take care of yourself. (That includes maintaing a loving and healthy relationship with your wive)

What a stupid comment

You’ll understand it one day. 💯

🙄

I get it. You’re 20-something. You like your life. It’s safe. I was there once too.

Now I’ve raised 3 boys to adulthood. It’s the hardest, most joyful, most frustrating, most wonderful experience you can possibly have as a human. There is NO way to learn unconditional love that even compares, IMO. Your children become your GREATEST teacher.

Remember me when you are staring into the eyes of your first newborn Ben. Staring into infinite love and joy. 🥰

(Side note. One of my best friends and business partners just had his first at 47! Held the “I don’t need kids” line for 20 years! Now he can’t believe he was going to miss the most “foundationally transformative” thing in his entire life! (His words).

Thx for letting an eternally grateful 55 yr old parent rant…. 👴😉

Be well 🙏🏻

Actually I’ll be 36 in a few short months.

I guess having never been that great at relieving my own suffering I feel it would be kind of hypocritical to accept the responsibility of relieving someone else’s.

It takes self awareness to realise that, Ben. And maturity. Most people have very little of either. That alone gives you a BIG leg up on parenting.

Like Bitcoin, parenting calls you into becoming a better version of yourself.

At the very least, don’t rule it out. It expands your heart (and therefore awarenes) in ways that are impossible to describe in words alone 💓🧬🦋

Pick up a copy of “The Untethered Soul” by Michael Singer. Transformational. For me and countless others 💓🙏🏻

Very approachable

Unfortunately given the state of the Family Court, having no ego or self-interest coming in to parenting is probably a basic requirement at this point

That’s a high high bar. (No ego). If everyone used that, humans would have become extinct loooooong ago.

Just sayin.

And here I was thinking you couldn’t think for yourself

And anyone exercising authority over people (either in companies or governments) who don't have children should be viewed with a healthy degree of skepticism.

Why?

1. A person without children has no personal authority (like a parent has over a child) yet tries to wield it publicly.

2. Raising children changes your perspective on reality, both of yourself and your relationships with others.

3. You experience how growth happens and how to plan and prepare for the future.

This is not to say childless people can't contribute positively, but someone raising children has objectively experienced more about life in this world and opportunities to practice virtue.

“This is not to say childless can't contribute positively”

That’s most magnanimous of you but wouldn’t it be better to cull childless people at the age of 40, least they try making a contribution to the world somehow?

No

But with such limited life experience how could they possibly do anything good?

You're conflating childless people in general with those in authority, as my original post states, and taking issue with a qualifying statement, not the original argument.

Can't even take care of myself. Wouldn't want to know how I would fare with having kids.

Start by taking better care of yourself 🙏🏻😉

From personal experience, kids have a funny way of forcing you to get your act together to take care of yourself.

The future belongs to those who show up.

Disagree, enough folks are having kids and there will always be folks who want them. Lots of ways to give back to our world and those around us. The only reason to have children is because you have the desire to raise children. I respect everyone's personal choice. I choose to be childfree ♥️

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Pffft. Man you’re bating a thousand with these opinions.

Sounds like a ponzi scheme. Just enjoy your life.

White babies*

You have one life only, just enjoy it. With or without babies, it really makes no difference. The point is to live virtuously, not to replicate.

Nope, I had kids, it’s not even remotely close

Truly one of life's greatest joys (with lots of crying and yelling in between)

But hey whats life without some ups and downs?

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So trendy.

My wife and I can’t make any more babies, but our babies are making their own babies now, so that’s pretty cool.

I want to. Can't seem to find someone who wants to join me in the endeavor.

Stop advocating for policies that reduce the social safety nets needed to raise physically and emotionally stable children, stupid fucks.

We cannot afford more babies...

I have 8, many around me don’t have any. I’m stacking for those I’m closest to.without them ,id be doing the work for someone else .who wouldn’t appreciate my stacking effort

`make -j5 babies`

i can make them if you raise them

Not necessarily. But the issue is generativity. After you’ve peaked mentally and physically you need to invest in the next generation or your energies are wasted.

Uterus Activated Soft Fork or die

Yea. Imma call bullsihit on this one.

Technology is arguably the most impactful thing that humans have ever created. Regardless of biological inheritance, the individual contributions each of us make in a lifetime (in the things we create and the words we speak and write) will propagate across many generations BECAUSE of human technology.

To even acknowledge that humans have “something special” over animals, is to recognize the evolutionary power of our technology to shape society and the world around us in ways that baby making will never touch.

Babies are just cannon fodder for technological growth.

What's the point of technology if population collapses?

Right!

Not to mention making babies is the most lindy tech. around.

Make making humans great again.

I did my part. Three time over in fact. 🥰

Your proliferation is good.

Right!

Not to mention … the human lineage has been TOP baby makers on this planet for hundreds of millennia.

The Lindy effect would agree that 50 or 100 years of regionally declining birth rates is of ZERO concern to human survival.

Population collapse… 😤

Seriously? With human population being the MOST now than ever before… you are concerned about a recent decline in birth rate ?

Let’s talk in 5 more generations, after it rebounds. If it does not, then we can go full on handmaids tale.

There's actually a decent argument for population collapse coming over the next century and some proposed solutions. Quite an interesting topic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwIeDuHwXJY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3cXRs60xiU

Foundation: let’s make something to keep the knowledge alive and then make the dark ages take less centuries than it should without this help. 🫡

L take, the only way to pass on technological innovation and keep the ball rolling is to raise and teach the next generation how to use and build upon it.

Babies are cannon fodder for knowledge. If we don't do this then we're are only going to have further generations of brain rotten tick tock users that the don't contribute much to society, in such a scenario society stagnates.

You should try having kids

What I have or have not “tried” is irrelevant. And you have no idea.

My statements stand on their own value. They are either bullshit or not.

I have an idea

They're bullshit. People have value in their own right.

Yes. Everybody is valuable. Until they die. Then only the things they’ve built and the ideas they’ve shared with others (including god) are all that is left to value.

Technology (the evolution of human consciousness) is what we have made, and is the most valuable thing we can pass onto future generations, no matter whose babies they are.

I may be full of bullshit, but I will always respect you and everybody else I meet in this short life. That is my small but valuable gift.

No, we can leave a genetic legacy. Someone to use the things we have built.

What's the point of a legacy if there is no one to pass the torch to ?

This is the way, if I had my time again I would have had more children.

Unfortunately, we are on a path to eliminate humans on our current trajectory, for human like robots.

We're already obsolete when miso robotics can take all the starter fast food jobs for 16-18yr olds legally.

Humans will never be obsolete unless we give up, which sadly, seems to be quite common of late.

It is like making a neural network 1000x more potent than chatGPT and the best robotics developed over millions of years - together - that runs on 100 watts energy !

I have more than the average number of children. They are generative chaos. All my plans vaporized during the first pregnancy and better ones rose in their place.

JDK.

Most people are retarded. They're here because retards made them. Please stop making rerards

More cartoon babies for dimensionality