Women sabotage each other.
Men sabotage themselves.
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You’re wrong
You don’t know DICK about SHIT when it comes to vagina wearers broski
It's not his fault. They can't imagine the oxytocin levels that are our baseline. Never gossiped in a knitting circle and it shows.
Have you seen this movie?
Duh. It’s not an educational documentary
Have you read Lord of the Flies?
A long time ago in school. I don’t remember a lot of it though but I know they were basically at war with each other. But they were stranded on an island trying to survive 😂
And what is war if not sabotaging each other writ large? 🤔
Oh shit. She said “writ large”.
Just zap me one sat and move along 🤣
War lately is just a way for bankers to make more money 😂
In lotf, the warlike behaviors went away as soon as they were going to leave the island. So it’s circumstantial.
Both genders display these characteristics, but these are the general patterns I’ve seen. For example, men will often sabotage themselves by abandoning their decade long friendships to focus on their girlfriend/wife. Then when their relationship fails, they find themselves alone.
Try living with a woman for multiple years before formalizing blanket statements.
Women ditch their friends all the time for dudes.
You’re not pointing out anything that profound here
I have lived with a woman for multiple years.
I’m sensing some hostility, not sure why.
Im always a little hostile. You’re just who it’s pointed at at the moment
In mean girls, Rachel's hyper aggressive behavior was no longer a problem once the circumstances were changed and she was the one at the bottom of a pile of girls. So it was also circumstantial 🤔
You see patterns. Are they patterns you're already looking for? Or are you looking to see what patterns there are outside of our social conditioning? If I think I will see a red car, I am more likely to notice red cars throughout my day via confirmation bias.
Your example of a man within a relationship losing his friendships is very poignant, if for no other reason than I'm sure every woman knows another woman who did this as well. Our behaviors are less gender -siloed than you seem to be assuming.
Right but we need to compare similar circumstances. High school isn’t life or death like it is for lotf.
And yes you’re right women will lose their friends over a guy but men don’t lose their friends in the same way. Men neglect their friendships rather than walking away or ending it. It’s common for guys to catch up with a friend after multiple years of not talking like as if nothing happened. This is what I mean by men sabotaging themselves. They sacrifice good experiences with their friends.
Women tend to have more fallouts with their friends. Guys tend to just drift apart over time as they stop prioritizing their social lives.
Again, these are just general statements. They don’t apply to ALL people of a specific gender. There are exceptions for sure. Men have fallouts and do sabotage each other sometimes. But most of the time, men are their own worst enemies.
It sounds like you don't interact with many women.
I call it the Andrew Tate effect
Weird because I’ve been told I interact with too many women IRL 😂
I don’t show them this side of me though haha normies don’t like it
Oof. If that was true, you would have already known to ditch this topic
Yea I'm wondering who's saying that and are all these ladies related to him 😅
We went from discussing to mocking 
Hey nostr:nprofile1qqsytuv4el7t3jtjfm7zfrc9q730ked40806he7dx5uctxqk8j4hvfcpp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqpr9mhxue69uhhxetwv35hgtnwdaekvmrpwfjjucm0d5q32amnwvaz7tmgd9ehgtnwdaehgu3wd3skueqsgfq6l I just got back from errands. I meant this in a teasing way but it's been interpreted as harder hitting than I meant. I just want to say I enjoy your content and I enjoy lively morning discussions and I hope all is well in your world 🤝
Appreciate that 🫂
Let's calm down, people. 😅we can have a civil debate here.
This is nostr. If you get butthurt from THAT…maybe twitter is more your steez. This is me being calm.
😅I'm not butthurt. I was just... interested in seeing where this would go. I'll steer clear of twitter... and any centralized platform for that matter.
That's not a gender specific behavior, though.
Precisely
Example of how men sabotage themselves
https://video.nostr.build/049b45162dc97723854d79e31085e23168a1d2d5fd165e65fb2ef18a4d65afe0.mp4
Correct. None of these are gender specific. Some are just seen more often with a specific gender.
Well... yeah, duh. Lol I think you should've been a bit more thorough with your OP.
Yeah I could’ve clarified that better lol
Lol, yep. I've never seen nostr:nprofile1qqszd44fgen4ucpl3hjt7muuaazzqdahp3lwu9c07phdweelcdxf3ugpz4mhxue69uhkyetkduhxummnw3erztnrdakszxnhwden5te0wfjkccte9enk2arpd338jtnrdakj7a33qyxhwumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmvhj9400 and nostr:nprofile1qqstcqhq5mq0qxkeedt69v8ca7pyr0zll9uuu3zje60zg00y2a6kwfgpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsz9mhwden5te0wfjkccte9ec8y6tdv9kzumn9wshszymhwden5te0wp6hyurvv4cxzeewv4ej7jdjfkd get triggered before. 😅good job!
Really? I stay triggered. 24/7
Yep, but it's hard to tell if you're actually triggered or if you're just messing with us. 😅... this is a millenia long issue all us fellas can't seem to find a solution to🤷.
Be careful. If you make a generalizing statement, she will rip your head off 😂
And not the head that’s on your neck…
That’s too scary. Please accept this as a token of my apology
https://video.nostr.build/38e6a6a31467e7cf88f781181cb2024c2dc6a433312434b7b182aeeeceba92a4.mp4
Duh. I would just mute you if I didn’t plan on forgiving you. You the homie, but don’t piss off the other gender too much
It's just tiresome hearing men who seem to never be around women spout nonsense and pass it off as wise truth to a large group of men who also don't seem to interact with women who are all approving snaps and zaps.
As a woman who doesn't interact with men, I look around my large community of women and see no truths in these statements about women. It makes me wonder about men's observation skills when it comes to the opposite sex 😅
It’s not just men who think this way though. Searching up “men sabotaging each other” doesn’t show many results but does show suggestions for how to stop sabotaging yourself. When searching “women sabotaging each other,” it does bring up a lot of results. Most are by women too so it’s not an Andrew Tate thing. Again, you ladies are the exception. Most women are not on nostr and don’t give a shit about bitcoin. You are the unique ones without these traits.
It's difficult for both genders to decipher either of these behaviors in the opposite sex because both portray them using very different means.
I'm mostly just very confused around men, which is disappointing because I don't particularly want to be single 😅 I think a lot of people are having a similar issue though, both men and women.
There is a lot of data that shows it has never been a more difficult time to find a partner to start a family with than right now. Social media and dating apps have distorted what kind of relationships are actually possible.
And what makes me most angry is I think a lot of the discord in our society now is purposely done and benefits some.
Influencers are definitely rage baiting people to blame the opposite gender for being single. I hear a lot of complaining and see a lot of memes about men acting feminine while also seeing complaints about women expecting too much from men. The truth is that everyone is asking a lot more from their partner than any other time in history. It’s just not realistic for everyone to find everything they’re looking for.
Porn has a lot to answer for....
Also tech in general. The amount of youngsters now that cannot even look at you when talking is astounding. It is like social skills are completely lost sometimes.
We have never been so connected, yet so distant from each other.
Porn for men and social media for women have distorted the kinds of relationships they expect/want.
Probably overlap in there if I really try to be accurate.
Certainly downsides to each affect men an women predominantly as you say.
For example, plenty of men have zero social skills because they spend too much time talking as we are here.
Don’t tell me what you don’t want in men or in women. Tell me what you do want in a human being.
Putting aside the fact I didn't say what I don't wan't per se, it was an observation, if I had to consolidate it all down into a simple concept, it would be for people to be connected on a deeper level, not less.
Most interactions today are superficial, and more interactions of a superficial level do not make up for deeper understanding.
It's not just the lack of social maturity (which has become more prevelant) that is concerning, it's their lack of self-esteem and confidence. Social media reliance needs to die out eventually. It only exacerbates all the issues that the internet has produced.
I'm not sure it will. People use it as a crutch so they never have to engage with others IRL.
The constant stream of Insta posts makes people feel shit too I think. Like everyone else living their best life except 'you' lol.
It's all so fake though. I was in Rhodes last month. A never ending row of women walk down to the beach to pose, with a bloke in tow taking their picture. Then they walk off again. Just all for show.
It depresses me lmao
Have you seen Airplane?
I have not
Makes you think...
🍿thank god it's a slow day today
Weak women...
Weak men...
But yeah, without a doubt.
Strong men and women build each other up because of obvious reasons.
