TELEGRAM IS SPYWARE.

DELETE IT.

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YES SIR

AND USE WHAT NOSTR-BASED ALTERNATIVE SIR?

THERE IS A NIP FOR PUBLIC CHATS BUT I DON'T THINK MANY CLIENTS IMPLEMENTED IT https://nostr-nips.com/nip-28

DOES NOT EXIST YET BUT nostr:npub1zuuajd7u3sx8xu92yav9jwxpr839cs0kc3q6t56vd5u9q033xmhsk6c2uc WILL MAKE IT HAPPEN.

UNTIL THEN SIGNAL / SIMPLEX / MATRIX / THREEMA ARE SOLID.

All have "backdoors" to national security of usa.

ur pattern odell begin to show to everyone. Careful butterin was in that pattern to.

Ohhh shit someone’s actually gonna work on this? That’s gonna be dope 👏

I like sessions. Am i the only one? Its basically a telegram replacement.

Never heard of it tbh.

😶‍🌫️they hide in plain sight so it can be hard to know. Xxmp though has been around a long time, im not entirely sure but I think he's one of the chair for bluesky

Keet.io

not until it's open source

Not the first time I saw that. So I never go on there. But I need to axe it.

BEEN DID THAT 🫡

🎯🙌🫡

Keet 😉

Need a vpn if youre worried about the other end knowing your IP, but fully p2p

Also not open source yet. But still cool af 😂

So, how am I supposed to use nostr:npub1lnp2p0v0tqpldhvtyqdpmkm85jmwy6phrlnn202p62mxsjhh5c0q5lyurp without Telegram? It might be spyware, but right now it's undeniably useful unfortunately. Is there a way to port lnp2pbot to Keet, or some other p2p app?

I don't think true P2P will ever work out for messaging, encrypted messages being sent via relays is fine. lnp2pbot should build on top of (currently very bad) Nostr DMs or SimpleX instead

Telegram has cost me so much. And helped me troubleshoot bitcoin tech but overall I hate it

Signal

simplex-chat

+1

Gd

I'VE TRIED SUGGESTING ALTERNATIVES TO MY GROUPS AND THEY WONT BUDGE

Simplex ✅️

Kinda hate simplex. Idk what it is.

APPLE OS AND GOOGLE ANDROID TOO 😱😱😱

What isn’t nowadays…

Is there any evidence to this very alarming statement ?

it's only OK for public discussion. whatever you consider private don't do there

(including obfuscating your identity)

Ever been.

Signal is spyware too, since the CIA backdoored it (it wasn't discovered until 2019 in the Android repo).

That's a load of bullshit.

Ha ! I have just said so in Start9 Telegram support chat. I asked a technical question, and 5 secs later, I got 2 private DM offering their support. Burn in hell, scammers !

Signal

SIMPLEX

beeper

ICQ

Leo, is ICQ shutting down ?

Sorry, it was a bad joke. ICQ shut down already.

use beeper

I'm really interesting, if it's not same shit in different body / app?

I'm doing this thanks

Everybody says so, but so far I didn't see any realistic proof, other, that it's "russian guy" behind. There is of course some concerns, lot of spam and frauds (well, when Nostr hit's majority user, guess what happens here), but I can hardly find so well supported and community used alternative. It is what it is.

Not sure I'd call #Telegram a spyware per se, but despite a pretty good UI/UX, it is very bad on so many aspects 😣

Nothing is E2E encrypted by default, DM, groups (groups never are, on Telegram).

And rule number one of cryptography is: you do NOT roll out your own crypto!!!

Too bad it's so convenient.

We need good alternatives ASAP.

nostr:nevent1qqsfqr92ze0082pdahh64ynmtnjtlnfc2lq38g967nccrvxqahem44qpzpmhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejsygqyey2a4mlw8qchlfe5g39vacus4qnflevppv3yre0xm56rm7lveypsgqqqqqqsy3c46l

Leaders lead 🫡

Spyware for who?

well, that's just fucking great.

I'm not feeling bullish on this shit lately. every time i turn around i feel another tug at a rug.

I agree... Thinking of starting an in the woods meetup, no fucking electronics within 1 mile of the meeting. I'm sick of this shit.

Done🏴

INTERNET IS A SPYWARE.

DELETE IT.

Most essential bitcoin related groups are there.

For example?

I was under the impression they were on XTwitter.

Sparrow, RoninDojo, SeedSigner, Phoenix, Bisq...

Unfortunately

Not sure why they stubbornly refuse to switch.. proly to functionality wins.

YOUR SMARTPHONE IS A SPYWARE

THROW IT 🚮

Can I shitpost first?

Phones for the #plebs!

#bitcoinfixesthis

ok, right after this note...

*tosses off bridge*

*thinks... hmmm that may have been a little impulsive*

#noregurts ;)

#smij #zapd

alternative??

simplex chat.

excellent, but only 0.00000001% of the population uses it and that makes it unnecessary.

Agree bro, if u think...no one excelent choice of p8 and sec app is popular.

Still use some groups there... simplex is not widely used

👇

nostr:note1jqx259j77w5zmm0042f8kh8yhlxns47pzwst4a83sxcvpm0nht2qas6c49

Stop lying. And tell everyone why ? Why always recommand tech that are bugs w usa intelligence enterprise ?

I agree and would love to, unfortunately a lot of Bitcoin communities are on Telegram with no alternative like e.g. Simplex.

Be the change…

For my app I've added a SimpleX fullly anon channel alongside the existing Telegram one (and nostr of course)

https://chat.frankie-gpt.com/public/help

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only shitcoin scammers still use telegram.

Still amazed how many spots are like “join the telegram group”. What, is this 2017 still?

Done and dusted

So that reaction is about this :

TG is the best messenger out there. Anyone who thinks that they can make normies using Signal or Simplex for privacy, security or virtues reasons is delusional.

But isn't Signal spyware too?

I know molly is a hardened version of signal still required to give your number.