Let’s stop onboarding people to custodial wallets now.

Hook them up with ZEUS + ZEUS PAY, tip them 50k+ sats to start them off with an OLYMPUS channel (or open one to them yourself), and let them get into Bitcoin the right way: holding their own keys and with payment privacy.

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How?

I’m on WoS.

Me as well.

But this post is making me reconsider everything.

The learning never ends, does it? Off to read about nostr:npub1xnf02f60r9v0e5kty33a404dm79zr7z2eepyrk5gsq3m7pwvsz2sazlpr5

Me too.

Let me know if you find any goods

Likewise!

Apparently you need to stun a node 😂 who knew? 🤷🏼‍♀️

Yeah I didn’t make it past the main screen 😆

Run 🤦🏼‍♀️. Noob x2

We need to learn how to stun a node

⚡️⚡️⚡️ would work I’d think.

idk what that means and i have been using zeuspay w olympus (everything workd v intuitively if it werejt for the app freezing on me constantly)

Haha, ok that makes more sense. I was going to go look for this stun setting you spoke of (I have the alpha but haven't used everything).

😂 typo central. Welcome to #nostr, where the typos keep everyone entertainid.

never

Only wos?

Yup

You should at least be using something else.

I can’t wait for Zeus to drop the works on the normal App Store.

I use wos for inbound/outbound small amounts, Phoenix for larger amounts now because I still can’t fix my fucking pos LN on my umbrel .

Lol

Yea how?

We give you permission to share your alpha link in private. Open beta next week.

How do I get an alpha link?

hands up!!!

Open beta on play store or apk? Just curious because I had to uninstall the play store version to install the alpha. So might have to switch back for the beta.

This is the way

I’d love to. Is there a tutorial for this, I’m tarded sir???

#tardstr

Indeed.

Ta..t..ta..tt..tarted

Me too buddy, me too.

No official tutorial until nostr:npub1rxysxnjkhrmqd3ey73dp9n5y5yvyzcs64acc9g0k2epcpwwyya4spvhnp8 puts one out in “futbol announcer Spanish”

Setup the beta and grab that zeuspay lightning address before someone else does. I think if your on the iPhone you might have to reconfigure any node connections you have setup already. It's not hard, you just need to be able to write down 24 words 👍

What do you mean setup the beta? Where’s the beta?

Downloaded the beta.. lost af.. I’m actually retarded, I don’t just play one on nostr

So the first thing you want to do is add the embedded node. It should walk you through and give you 24 words. Then go into settings and under lightning address pick your name. Then send yourself a decent payment like 50-100K sats and Zeus will open a 0-conf channel, channel size will be determined by the size of that first payment.

Ok.. things seem to be happening but still confused af. I have Buddhazap@zeuspay.com

Got my words and my old channels are showing.. sent 50,000 sats from WoS as a test.. waiting..

Anything else?

THANKS HOARDER!!!

You have?

How a gringo matter?

#ALL

Mothering for the wrong reasons, as arguing for random mutations and killing to justify corruption and deviance is pathetic.

I have.

Payment came through. I redeemed… what next? Do I post buddazap in my nostr zap space?

Heyyyy I just got your zap hoarder!!!! (I’m assuming!!) 🔥🔥🔥🔥

So where do those sats stay? I tried opening a channel to Olympus and it’s saying funding error?

They're in your lightning balance. If you look in the channel screen, you'll see a channel has already been opened with Olympus.

It’s Not showing that channel yet

Trick question?!

Curious what what cures that illness.

For now you have to open a channel by receiving LN funds. Cannot currently accept onchain funds for channel opens.

Got it. What’s the channel size? Is it .01 bitcoin or greater? It seems like that’s the message I’m receiving

50k min for 0conf chans. 10k sat fee.

1m is the min for onchain chan opens

Hoarder I need help. I’m having a serious tard brain moment. I sent a few million sats to my node but put them in the bitcoin wallet, not the lightning wallet.. and I can’t transfer from the bitcoin wallet to the lightning wallet??? Am I losing my mind? So then I bought a couple million sats on strike to send over and I can’t send to the lightning wallet from there either? How tf did I fund my lightning wallet in the past. I’m losing my shit.

Also wanted to add another 1 million liquidity to our channel and can’t remember how to do that either… I’ve been tarding for too long

Current situation

Ok ok.. I think I just balanced our channel and now I need to add more liquidity to open the Zeus channel… it automatically pulls the new sats to balance our channel first it looks like.

I’m just talking to myself here, but it’s working

See, you’re not so tarded after all.

Well I have my moments but that’s debatable.. nostr:npub14hlzw4sywt23drreaqs8ruf00dsrnnv5hfnyu49g2hpheq836umssur6nl would call me super tard genius. I’d drop the genius. 😂😂😂

You passed the Mensa. You’re a gifted tard 🤓

Keep receiving funding error… not sure what I’m doing wrong. I’ve hit the end of my talking my way through it ability I think.

Yeah I actually sent that from my Zeus node 😁

Yeah 🎉 that should do it. Just look around in there and and enjoy having a self custodied lightning node on your mobile phone!

Fucking amazing!!!!

The app has gotten much more user friendly I have to agree although the 50% fees for zaps keeps me from attaching it to Nostr..

it's only 50% if the zap is below 200 sats

above 200 sats it has a 0.5% fee

initially i was like woah.. that is a lot <200 sats.. and might still be a lot for people in some parts of the world

but for me it's fine and honestly devs should be encouraged to do this.. it's a great setup to earn some sats for pow

another plus, it can motivate others to build a similar app but with lower fees (healthy competition)

But how does one access Zeus Pay?

Yes, please, how?

Open Zeus channel I did with Olympus under settings Lightning address enter your name@Zuespay

i can send you a link now i think check dm

Yeah true but How often do you get zapped over 200 sats the standard seems to me 21… there’s just other ways without the fees IMO

i like the model tbh

just a random zap.. i dont think I'll feel the difference of receiving 22 sats over and over compared to 11 sats

i do know I'll definitely feel the difference in receiving 100.000 sats vs. 50.000 sats

Yes no argument there great for large amounts but if there is still a way to avoid a fee one must!!!

It's not 0.5% above 200 sats. It's 100 sats even. So a 300 sat zap gives you 200 sats. A 10,000 sat zap will get you 9,900 sats.

That’s the positive of using ZeusPay which is why I use it for large transactions agreed only 100 sat fee for any large amount..

What’s Zeus pay and how do I try it ?

Zeus, hire me as a contract promoter

Here’s the deal.

Send some SATS to cover the channel fee.

I’ll use Zeus exclusively for the rest of 2023 (barring anything crazy and unexpected)

And I’ll send out one post per week about the Zeus wallet. I have a small following but they’re all legends.

Sounds crazy but it just might work.

Lmk 😎

Downloading 🦔

ZEUS makin folks question the nature of wallets.

The new Zeus is open to everyone now?

Can you send from an Olympus Zeus wallet to a Zeus Pay LN address?

Yes. You can send to any Bitcoin or Lightning address from the new ZEUS wallet and you can pay to ZEUS PAY from any lightning wallet.

I couldn't pay Zeus Pay address from Phoenix wallet. I don't think HODL invoices would work sending from a wallet that may be offline when the receiving wallet comes online later to accept the payment.

It works with Phoenix. It’ll just show as pending until redeemed.

I always onboard with breez and, kill me, Coinbase wallet (not the exchange). Because they're easy for noobs. Both are non-custodial. While I do have them write their 12-24 words down so they understand the concept those wallets don't necessarily require that. I know it's bad letting them rely on a Google drive backup but I do warn them. That's all I can do.

Only issue I have with breez, and I suspect Zeus will suffer this, is a clear guide for noobs on what to do when their channel to the lsp is closed. Breez mentions the app will guide folk on how to claim their coin but I've seen folk delete the app thinking a reinstall would fix it which only makes things worse. Other than that I think the lsp route is the way to go for noobs and self custody. It's progressed far enough that I can't see why people still use custodial solutions. LN Addresses were the only missing piece and you have that covered now.

What is Zeus Pay? How do you get started?

gm the nostr, this is the way 🫡

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🎯

Gm The Captain!

gm to you as well good ser 🫡🤙🏼

Thank you! 🤜🫡

So if I understand the new setup, the key is still stored on phone, but the liquidity from Zeus?

Yes

But you can also open your own channels

I assume own node functionality has not changed at all?

Where can I read more about this and how to set it up?

Zeus has Zapable Lightning addresses in their open beta. It's time. No more will we have to on-board someone and then tell them to install two wallets.

nostr:nevent1qqsf9fgc4rzvvp5tdza9p8smq7r7m8j45sxrrs9xa3cfaekc70k5ucsppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qgsrf5h4ya83jk8u6t9jgc76h6kalz3plp9vusjpm2ygqgalqhxgp9grqsqqqqqpvkhvnp

Zeus Pay is really cool way to have non-custodial zaps with a completely mobile setup. Is it worth letting them take 50% of every zap less than 200 sats? That’s a hard sell for me. Hopefully that gets cheaper or it’s really un-useable for that purpose.

The key with all of these options is education and limiting exposure to being rugged. I believe that’s where the majority of the arguments are made and it’s not so black and white.

But just like everything in life, there are tradeoffs. Knowledge tackles emotions IMO.

My Setup -

WoS / Alby = Limited balance - fun tickets for Nostr (cash in my pocket for a night out)

Use case example : zapping on Nostr, buying a buddy a drink, etc

Zeus = Medium balance (debit card in my wallet / spending account)

Use case example : Shopping online via Lightning Store

Cold Storage = Large balance (Savings Account)

Use case example : storing wealth.

Just my thoughts….

Agree 💯 Zeus Pay gives users a powerful tool to add to their tool belt. Every tool works well for some things, and not as well for others. Self-custody is crucial to learn and put into practice. So is not accidentally losing a large % of payments. If zaps are more than just a play thing and are truly to be a vehicle of economic activity for content creators, then losing 10-50% of every micropayment tip up front is really a non-starter.

💯🎯🙌

nostr:note1j2j332xyccrgk6962z0pkpu8ak09tfqvx8q2dmrsnmnd3uldfe3qqpgnsx Feeling happy as kid to have this wallet working !!!🥳

How do I start?

Thanks! Can I install and run this beta app along side the F-Droid version I have installed already?

No, you need to upgrade.

Why is there a 0.01 BTC minimum to open a channel to Olympus when the LSP will open a 50,000 sat channel?

nostr:note1j2j332xyccrgk6962z0pkpu8ak09tfqvx8q2dmrsnmnd3uldfe3qqpgnsx Feeling happy as kid to have this wallet working !!!🥳

Cómo?

How? ☺️

You can top me 50k+ sats 😁

Tip , need an edit function so bad

How to retrain what’s corrupt and sick, Dave?

Edit the weighted? I’m dying to understand how

You can only retrain those who are open to it.

Unfortunately we as a species are relatively closed and need to be forced to open.

Species? We are not the same.

You’re an earthling, im human.

I can’t condition.

I have