My wife likes bitcoin. But she seems afraid of interacting on nostr and the like. She seems to think that bitcoiners come off as being better than and scary to interact with.
How did she get that idea? Are we inviting or do we push new people away?
#asknostr
The whole bitcoiner attitude is not attractive to new folks.
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I'm not a fan of that attitude either. I feel like being compassionate and hellful is better than that vibe. I get that there is frustration In dealing with certain people. For me, of they aren't open, I just move on. No need to shame. She hadn't even really been a victim of it. She just picks up on it I guess and it puts her off. I am trying to get her off the old platforms. But this is currently the challenge.
Meet people where they are at. Without empathy we push people away
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I think there are a higher share of unpleasant interactions than most people are willing to deal with, despite most of us being perfectly pleasant.
It feel more friendlyness here than I ever did on Twitter. Maybe it's just because I am a psychopath.
Hmm. Idk, but it's a good question to ask.
I know some new bitcoiners who have nostr but never post. I think they are shy or intimidated. She's like "I don't have anything to say!" And I'm like "that's gay as fuck!"
Bitcoiners in their natural habitat can be a bit much 😅 Nothing will change that anytime soon.
On a more fixable note, maybe point nostr:nprofile1qqsvakze3ztrgqc5rg9lqcwkzpp6577tuv9azur3qpue5zy2klyrvyspzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujucm4wfex2mn59en8j6gpz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduq3yamnwvaz7tm0venxx6rpd9hzuur4vg0yp76a towards more of the artists & gardeners? I haven't seen her post many notes yet, but she's welcome to come chat on mine, if she needs a not-so-bitcoiny space to get acquainted with nostr.
Uh oh. Now she is going to know I have been talking about here. What do you mean, chat on mine?
Wife is similar.. She's here in nostr but afraid to post.
How do we remedy this?
She's hesitant because she was told straight away not to post about personal stuff, personal pictures, etc. Nostr will never take the next step toward adoption giving new people fear like that.
I mean, that's a really GREAT idea on ANY social media platform! Why surrender your family to the vagaries of billions of people online? The utopia of law is a FANTASY! Now with AI bots on the loose, why on earth would someone even say it is OK to post anything about self or family. Keep those interactions in the private realm of private law... The fear of the Lord is the beginning of Wisdom...
We are an insufferable bunch. The women here have very thick skins.
My wife said to me today “wow bitcoin is dipping shouldn’t I buy some more?” I’ve never been more
Proud.
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I wish she was here to interact with you. She could really gain from you and a couple other lady psychos.
Thats a keeper.
Like a wicker basket I work to hold her water and keep her with me
You got a good one
Yeah we are. I feel bad my wife has to put up with me alrrady. She probably has heard enough of the bitcoin, sovereign, freedom, blah, blah, blah talk.
It’s not just that haha. I’ve seen girls here post their opinions on things like abortion and lgbt rights. And the replies are full of very mean things lmao. So a lot of them left and never came back.
That's a tough one. It's taken time for my wife and I to find common ground on some of that stuff. It's a tough time to be real. A lot of shitty narratives out there seperating people
And a lot of women have been conditioned by society to not be tolerant of opposing opinions. Mostly because men will say whatever they need to say in order to sleep with them. So when they are in a context that provides anonymous communication and uncensorable communications, a whirlwind of aggression attacks them like they’ve never experienced before lol
Seems like you're in denial of how nostr's community is full of shitty people who drown out the good right now.
They have no reason to stay in a place with no network effect helping them find their people.
You're accusing them all of being thin skinned when you don't know how many of them would be fine with the attacks as long as there were also enough good people mixed in.
Do you mute people? You don't know how many of them wouldn't even mute anyone once they got used to the idea that it doesn't stop them from replying anyway.
Oh, he has me muted. Ironic. 
On amethyst I don't think you can see who has you muted. I wonder if there is a way to reference the "muted list" as a way of self reflection. Maybe they are bots(not sure why they would bother), maybe their racist/bigot or other type person, or maybe a they just find the person annoying.
In case you don't know, Firefox with nos2x-fox is also available on Android for use with web clients like nostrudel where I got that screenshot 🤙
You can see muted lists on Nostrudel. I muted that guy because he was annoying and being a douche. A lot of people also have him muted as you can see on his list 😂
W.e gender you are, you're here bc you think a meritocratic social order that can't be silenced to be of value & you find the collective consciousness on here is beneficial enough for the time spend.
Confidence can be perceived as abrasive to soft minds... Like a knuckle sandwich for a younger sibling...
Talking down to people has little to do with confidence in my opinion. The most confident people would have nothing to prove and no need to belittle others.
There's a lot of misogyny, racism, etc. here, unfortunately. Simple, popular tags like the meme and memes attract content from a lot of shitheads. I've seen several posts from literal Nazis praising Hitler. The nostr community is kinda shitty on the whole so far, even if the tech is promising.
This does not sound like the right place for you. Maybe consider leaving before you get upset?
Maybe the Nazis can go fuck themselves with a rake. Maybe the hateful idiots shouldn't be allowed to monopolize promising tech. Maybe things can't improve if we stay away and let it fester.
I'd agree with you if this was a centralized, owned platform, but for one of the most interesting decentralization technologies of the day, nah, if nostr is going to learn to thrive, it'll be in spite of the hate, not because of it.
'Decentralized' and 'allowed' are not compatible. This is the one place where everything goes. You better like it, for better and worse. There's no stopping it.
There's no way you're smart enough to study physics if you can't remember 1 reply ago where you were telling this person to leave, leading them to respond by explaining that they don't feel like allowing your type to monopolize shit.
I was just trying to give good advice man. Cause in here you can say anything you want, and people do. No?
That's what's promising about the tech, while the community as a whole isn't bringing it to its potential yet. As nostr:npub1f2d7g0p206c5nqjqfhftvrxg8u25gy6egqpv290qk27nc60k0fms43wnvu was saying
Oh I think it is glorious already. You come to appreciate it when you are ready. Not before.
Your little flag in the handler tells me all I need to know.
Your lack of 🇵🇸 tells me almost all I need to know too.
I will appreciate nostr when it is ready to be appreciated. I am ready for it when it is.
Translation: "but those raging assholes are my people, I'm glad to see them"
We aren't going to appreciate having to deal with racists and mysoginists and fascists and homophobes. We don't want to share space with those people. They're toxic, and practically all of their hatred is unfounded, but they don't care about reality, or they'd turn their attention to the people actually fucking them day in and day out.
Why don't you go to like Bluesky or Mastodon? Seems like the place for you.
Why, am I intruding on your safe space?
Hehe. Not quite. Just trying to save your mental health. But you seem to be pretty dumb and retarded. Maybe even homosexual.
It sounds like you have an issue with projection.
These bad thoughts and feelings you have about yourself don't need to be projected onto other people as a coping mechanism.
Go to therapy or get a hobby. Go outside every once in a while
Decentralization is all about allowing and disallowing things. It's about defining a standard we can all agree upon for our interactions, including ways to reject what we don't want to allow to influence us. What's not compatible is the monopolization. Any monopolized system is to some extent centralized. And fuck letting the assholes ruin this by letting them run the place.
I don't understand what you are saying exactly. I might have missed something.
The person is describing centralization but thinks it is describing decentralization. The person will not have a good time here.
Participation is voluntary, ain't no one who can disallow anything, except shutting your eyes.
It's actually trivially easy to disallow the monopolization I spoke of. Literally just have dissenting opinions show up. Don't back down and cede space to shitty people. Don't let the dregs of nostr define it by providing a coexistent alternative.
Dude there is no monopoly here, there never was, there never will be. That is the whole idea. You can woke all you want, but you are going to have a bad time, because you will be called a retard.
Some of your statements about this being a place where "anything goes" are concerning.
So you want nostr to be a lawless shithole full of scammers and pedophiles because "anything goes" but at the same time you are upset about people having different opinions to you?
Found a ugly retard! With an ugly dog! You look like a loser in life, you are never getting kids or a wife.
As if I would care about how another man feels about my sexual appeal.
Why would I take anything you say seriously?
Ironic being called ugly by someone who is afraid to show their face on here but I really could not care if you are attracted to me or not.
Why even bring the dog into it? Why would I care what you think of my dog?
A loser that'll never have children sounds like you're projecting. And I have no interest of marriage, why would I want to involve the government like that?
The tax incentives for marriage aren't worth it.
You need to know that you are failing in life, miserably. Natural selection will remove your genes from the face of the earth, no one will remember you ever existed. Everything you have ever done or said will not have mattered, it will just die.
With regards to your dog. You could have gotten a nice looking, cute or friendly looking dog, but you choose the ugly scary one. As ugly and scary as your heart.
You are not the boss of nostr, you don't decide who gets to be here or not.
You sound like some spoiled child having a tantrum.
All voices need to be heard. Even the ones we don't like. Otherwise that hate grows into something worse. It's important that free speech is free for everyone. Even those we disagree with.
Nostr is not inviting. It's been insanely hard for me trying to break through and start getting any engagement here.
Its both I think. I had a no block/mute attitude from the start, but while I can handle seeing eleventy billion ways bitcoin is "really great" over and over, I end up as a furious typing kitty with the Nazis and some other kooks. With the right personal algo and enough normie hobbyists showing up, though, it could be a happy place for all folks maybe?
Bitcoin can't be the end goal for life. Once someone is onboard and accepts the soundness of BTC then the money issue is solved. Now move onto other issues. If everyone is so confident in BTC going up why do people have to constantly talk about it at the exclusion of everything else?
I agree. I am starting a podcats called Beyond Bitcoin, for this reason.
I had no ides this would end up getting this much discussion going. I think it's important to consider the trafe offs to a truly decentralized social media platform. I will always stand behind free speech. If we dont like it, mute and block. Its easy. Much better than having the billionaire tech overlords decide what is appropriate for its users. Keep it coming. All voices need to. Be heard.
