When was the last time you said "I don't know" in an argument?
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I don’t know but it’s a great question.
Or just not argue because there no point - especially online.
Intellectually honest debate is hard to find. But when you do find it, both people tend to learn things. I personally enjoy having my thoughts challenged. I don't tie my identity closely to my beliefs. I'm ready and excited to be wrong!
I find your attitude to be rare. Seems everyone wants to be right at all costs. I get why, we seek to be consistent with our previous statements even when it’s clear that the logic breaks down. Just human nature.
It's worth it and personally rewarding to fight back against this internal nature.
It's not hard to find, you're just looking in the same corners of your own house. Ya dig?
It's pretty hard to find. To steal Tim Urban's lingo, we tend to go into "primitive mind" mode pretty quickly. Even I do it a lot.
I truly love debate when people actually have a foundational basis for their arguments. My pops used to provoke me to argue just to see how I was thinking.
Love that! I have a penchant for that, too. I tend to think it matters a lot more as to "why" somone thinks something than whether they nominally agree with my point. And I have a lot of dark stories from my times in politics as to why I now strongly believe that.
My favorite question is, why? Or as I heard a dude say W.hat H.appened Y.esterday that makes you think what you think today.
I do think true intellectual modesty is achieved through exploring honest disagreement. The more you explore the depths of different viewpoints, the more you realize that objective truth is much harder to know -- if not outright impossible. Or to invoke Socrates: "the more I learn, the less I know".
agreed! Yeah, that's why the current polarized silos of social media bother me. They've found their way into everything, even computer science where exploration leads to breakthroughs. People rather be liked than challenge the status quo.
It's like people say they enjoy freedom, yet do everything to suppress the freedoms of others. The freedom to oppose is powerful and necessary for growth.
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I think maybe the goal is to not win, but be able to see the other side. May not agree, but outcome is a whole lot of knowledge. I have these conversations with my big brother irl and got me to see a lot of things from wider perspective. Mike’s one of the few people who’s notes I catch up reading over the weekend - shortcut to free and quick knowledge lol
Whenever I talk to my bride, because only she knows…ya know?
All the time. Not necessarily arguments, but just discussions in general.
Whenever the need arises.
When the other person asked “are you passionate about this because you actually want to participate in change or this just makes your current beliefs uncomfortable?” 😳🤔
Lost track. In every argument.
I avoid arguments, but do find myself not knowing many things and declaring it in discourse often
Next time, don't reply, conduct a study, then revive the thread a year later. /s


