That shouldnβt have bearing on what you do.
Itβs also not at all clear.
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Are we looking at the same thing? She's like 300lbs & she joined a beauty pageant. Her delusions & the people helping her maintain them by telling her she is beautiful are destroying her. Do you not care about people at all?
I care about people enough not to call them a βjug of canola oilβ
While all you seem to see is her health issue, I also see her smile and her confidence. She might have accomplishments, a strong mind, and personality that make her special and admirable. She might not have deserved to win a beauty pageant, but she also doesnβt deserve to be defined by one thing only.
There are loving and effective ways to address health issues. What you did was neither. It was bullying; Iβm just pointing that out. You can do better.
Yes, I was making light of a truly disgusting situation. If you don't learn to laugh at clown world you can end up in a very dark place.
I don't think beauty pageants are often populated by people of particularly high confidence. And if they were they wouldn't all be lying to a 300lb woman to make themselves feel better.
What she has is metabolic dysfuction & a bunch of people telling her it's great. And if she also thinks it's great then where does that lead?
Being "nice" in the short term is easier on you, but it contributes to the destruction of the people you are lying to. It is the most cowardly people who tell the most white lies. If she was standing right in front of me I would tell her she is overwheight & that it's not beautiful at all. And that the emptiest sort of win anyone could ever experience is a "win" they secretly know they didn't earn. I would tell her that she is surrounded by horrible people who would clearly prefer to humiliate her than to help her. And I would offer dietary advice if she wanted it.
If you are more bothered by my words than by what is going on in that picture, then idk what to tell you.
I never said I supported whatβs going on in the picture, and frequently said itβs totally fine to disapprove of it, but yeah, your dehumanizing words do disturb me. They donβt befit someone who sees himself as a Christian. God would call her his child, not a jug of canola oil.
Take every thought captive.
I also am not supporting being βnice.β If I were βniceβ I wouldnβt be calling you out. Iβm talking about being loving and respectful.
There are loving and respectful ways to address her problems but you chose to be an edgelord instead π€·π»ββοΈ
I can tell youβre one of those guys who thinks your personal standard of beauty is universal, and to that I say: Venus de Milo
I happen to share your aesthetic preference on that, but that doesnβt mean she doesnβt have a beautiful smile, hair, skin, whatever.
People who can find beauty somewhere have more fun in life, try it maybe.
Again I say though, sure, she probably shouldnβt have won a beauty contest. But that isnβt what I was originally addressing. Only your choice to be disrespectful.
Well, if we're gonna start personifying God, then I think God might say he doesn't know her...
along with most of the people who put her where she is.
These people do not live in reality, they are very lost.
Beauty standards are by no means universal, but markers of health are naturally attractive with all sorts of evolutionary biology to back that up. I do think that anyone who finds this attractive is truly broken & suffering from some deep sort of corruption.
Yes, look at this beautiful smile... 
Yeah this pic is really unflattering.
Still a jerk move to be insulting. Please donβt.
Correction: Venus of Willendorf, not de Milo.
She and her enablers need to be brought back to reality. Itβs not going to be a pleasant experience and people in danger of slipping into the same delusion need to be warned away from it. Not saying name calling would be my preferred method of doing that, but I seriously doubt Jack or this Jeff guy would actually call that person names to their face. In the military they call people worse for a whole lot less in order to make them stronger. No one is laughing at that person or even trying to degrade them. In each life we are entrusted with a vessel that should be cared for more than probably any other possession we have have. Christ took a whip to people defiling Gods temple. Now we each have a temple of flesh that we are to care for. Do you not think God has something to say about her defiling her temple with obvious bad health choices?
Make it more Biblical by saying something like βthy temple is a brooding place of the canola vipers. Tis time Jesus whipped the devil food cakes out of youβ
You are in denial of reality. That doesn't make you better than people who are in touch with it.
Some people never get the truth about themselves pointed out to them out of "empathy". Instead they go around their entire lives surrounded with people that lie to their face and feel justified when they flip out with cognitive dissonance when their illusion is pointed out to them.
Itβs bad to lie to people. Itβs also bad to insult them and reduce them to inanimate objects in your mind. π€·π»ββοΈ
Donβt replace one evil with another. Find the right way and donβt be a reactionary jackass.
I can't control what other people hallucinate about what is happening in my mind
The people who are celebrating her for being fat have reduced her to nothing. This whole thing is to make themselves feel special for being the judges who "see through to the person" in an effort to virtue signal harder than the state that just awarded the guy who thinks he is a girl. And you are playing the same stupid game. You don't know anything about this person, except that she obviously doesn't take care of herself at all, & you are trying to pretend that there is something beautiful about it.
It's like people who prefer Obama to Trump because Trump said mean things while they ignore that Obama bombed more countries than any president in history. Which is worse, offending people or killing people?
What you don't seem to get is that the people celebrating this fat girl are killers. In the Milgram test they are the ones who push the botton every time. Social status & acceptance matter more to them than any person & they are demonstrating it as plainly as they possibly could.
This stupid "beauty contest" & its results are actually a pretty great illustration of the philisophical corruption that is wrecking the western world & I do think the altruistic bullshit preached by people who consider themselves "good Christians" has played a significant role in moving the US & others toward collapse.
Oh get fucked.
Thatβs sad. I used to really respect you, Jack, but you keep having these shit takes about real human beings.
Jerks arenβt cool.
When people say " used to really respect you" I know they are full of shit.
This woman is a SLOB, people that allow themselves to get this way and then try to glorify it and say it is healthy etc. do not respect themselves.
If saying that makes you "no longer respect me" it means you never did. Either you are a liar or you were an idiot that never really know who you "respected" in the first place.
I never respected you. To respect someone you have to know them, and I do not in any real sense. I gleaned some valuable information at times from things you have said but that's different from respect.
However, seeing how someone behaves towards others when there's no consequences for their behavior is a great window into what kind of person they are.
Take a look in that window, see what's reflected. Are you sure that's the kind of person you want to be?
wow, same. I used to respect this guy.
In what possible delusional interpretation of reality could you think this was the appropriate way to insert yourself into this conversation? The sickness of character would make anyone look healthy.