Too many developers trying to make the superapp of Nostr when the best approach is too have smaller apps doing less things and a better compatibility layer between them.
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She's always saying things fiatjaf should be quote posting and fiatjaf doesn't quote post them even when he decides to copy them
I wish there were something like nos2x but for mobile devices to make this many-app style future more manageable. Maybe it wouldn't have a great UX though if it requires switching app views just to sign. Every app that requires an nsec import increases risk.
Amber exists: https://github.com/greenart7c3/amber
Use Amber developed by nostr:nprofile1qqs827g8dkd07zjvlhh60csytujgd3l9mz7x807xk3fewge7rwlukxgpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhszrnhwden5te0dehhxtnvdakz7qgswaehxw309ahx7um5wghx6mmd9usjfpck
Fedi enables signing of mobile web apps through their mods feature
There are apps like #Amber for Android that implement NIP-55 which is basically NIP-07/nos2x for mobile devices - is this what you had in mind? I recently built a CapacitorJS plugin for NIP-55 and you can make the experience seamless for end users, they only have to authorize once - https://github.com/chebizarro/nostr-signer-capacitor-plugin
NostrKeyring.com is almost fully written and open source on my Github. Anyone reading this who wants a much better signer, please contribute.
I completely agreee
Better developer tooling and libraries would help. although its much better than it was a year ago
"This is the Unix philosophy: Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a universal interface."
God is a super being, angels are many and have way less power than God.
Would you rather have one God in your side or many angels?
God = protocol (Nostr)
Angels = small apps that focus on one thing
I would like to create a Nip-75 app... but i don't know if this NIP is required at relays (and i didnt find any relay with this nip)
that's it.
agreed 💯
Damus is the way to go.
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Until you lose access to it because an entity chooses to target you specifically.
I don’t hold nostr:npub1xtscya34g58tk0z605fvr788k263gsu6cy9x0mhnm87echrgufzsevkk5s accountable for this. After doing everything to fix it on my end I realized it was a fools errand & chose another path.
No plans to waste anyone’s time on one person: it’s not logical. #Hackers will continue to attack those they find as a threat. My former career made me a threat in some people’s eyes: that’s acceptable & was expected & planned for. All good.
Primal
He's right. Take Google's approach here. One app does one thing, but it does it really good.
You can design it under one corporate identity if it's from the same author or company.
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👏 This is how we beat all competitors
https://primal.net/e/note1zk7dunwf304wmk5ku5exyxyx5lzrxx8pd24nrvdwjw8k7t09jm2sxkuatv
It is the natural recognition of Gall's law. 100% agree.
Could be, could not be. Reminds me of monolithic vs microkernel architecture arguments of kernels. Today both are used as well as hybrids. The monolithic Linux kernel has its advantages. Space for all approaches.
this will happen naturally if signers actually work.
Exactly, devs sre being greedy, they think they’re gonna be “early” and be the “killer universal app” and be millionaires.
FAX 📠 Some don’t like being told the #truth about
1. #Narrative #warfare
2. #Information #warfare
3. Being #hacked will come from all spheres & is not based on their “timelines”
They were warned for months it was coming. It did.
I spoke out in support of the person who admitted they did it. Oddly enough: I was blocked by some & since access to be able to
1. Add Damus Relay
2. Add Nos.lol
YES: I did all the steps required to regain. Someone chose to target me. All good. We go on. To be clear: I’m not blaming nostr:npub1xtscya34g58tk0z605fvr788k263gsu6cy9x0mhnm87echrgufzsevkk5s for this attack either.
Admittedly: I’m retired #USA #Army & #Fed & some believe that makes me a threat. Whatever. I’ve made as many amends as possible & will continue to fight for 99% of humanity until the day I die. Never again will I apologize for not being a #keyboard #warrior Nor will I apologize for not understanding #Cyber as I chose to be a late adopter to online. Various skillsets exist & all have value. The amount of times people choose ego over humanity has always bothered me. We go on 😊🐙🫂
The network is the super app
Totally agree! Simplicity and interoperability are key.
I agree with this point, but sometimes Nostr is just too fascinating, and we can't resist implementing some really interesting features. hah.
Absolutely!
“Good design is less, but better.”
- Dieter Rams
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I agree.
I totally agree with this at least for the time being
#Nostr clients are more like distros .. not like coreutils :-)
Does feel like some have got slower the more features they add on
I think this is the key point. It is aligned with nostr:npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m recent note talking about mini/micro-apps.
IMO, enhancing compatibility between apps at the protocol level could significantly improve the developer ecosystem.
One feature I really would like to see is something that farcast protocol has already well implemented: frames. It would be a great evolution allowing notes to serve as standalone app in the timeline. It would open many windows for new solutions over here.
nostr:npub1w0rthyjyp2f5gful0gm2500pwyxfrx93a85289xdz0sd6hyef33sh2cu4x never seems to work right. A non-KYC substack alternative that works smoother LT where writers can receive freedom money would be a big deal.
Amethyst is already the super app
I had to go into my phone settings & disable background data for Amethyst because it plays videos in the background, even videos I haven't clicked on. It used 857mb in two days and I barely use it. That's ridiculous.
Make relays easier to understand, choose and interact!
yes
Agreed af!
Agreed!
Nostr and lighting *are* the layer between apps! It’s a universal transfer of value and information
I'm thinking about hiring nostr devs at this point. Building a novel nostr client solo is tedious and has taken me years to understand the poor documentation.
What we really need is someone to fund seasoned nostr devs to make the NIPs human and AI readible with examples and less nuanced. This way devs new to the space can get faster traction. Like read nip-07, there's almost no context! There's no documentation on how to signEvent without nostr-tools in pure js. It's been a lot of pain.
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When you say "too many" it sounds like there should be some "super apps".
I think the market will take care of this on its own.
My thoughts?
Super apps will likely (and should) end up focusing on consumers of content.
Whereas more niche clients should (and probably will) focus on creators of content. streamlining The process for creators to "get information out quickly", with whichever kind(s) their niche requires.
Perfect example:
I don't need to be able to create custom emojis in amethyst. But I really enjoy being able to use them.
reread this note now as a response to yourself commenting to me about how Nostr networks should work.