How advanced, or what types of advancement, would it take to convince you to get a cybernetic brain implant in the future?

-Substantially improves a major disability (blindness, paralysis, brain damage, etc)

-Boosts sensory abilities beyond normal (eyesight, hearing, etc).

-Boosts IQ or some other meaningful metric of intelligence and computation, thereby increasing your competitiveness in multiple fields. Becomes basically necessary for some fields due to many others doing it.

-Lets you enter VR with all five senses in a way that feels like 80-90% realistic but can be any environment/context. People make increasingly awe-inspiring virtual experiences/worlds, only accessible this way.

-Substantially increases the bandwidth with which you can interface with computers. Like, lets you download a ton of info quickly.

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If it wasn’t selling my data to a 3rd party and could be run locally / privately

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Exactly this.

Unfortunately that’s a premium feature…

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Who needs implants when you can have https://thetelepathytapes.com/.

>1000 years of research and development prove out the dosage and exposure, a full shamanic tradition, classical antecedents

waiting for the "cowboy hats" from WestWorld (HBO version).

In the near future it'll all work without invasive surgery. Like how everyone thought the internet was/is a series of tubes (wires) ... when in reality it's available as a radio spectrum.

In extreme cases, I think there'll be surface level attachments that we'll use ... but implants seem like a 50s idea without any of the AI derived advancements were about to get.

that said ... as soon as its avail. wearable ... I'm in.

You do realize as soon as you’re “in” they’ll 100% control you and your mind will no longer be your own?

Having done a lot of meditation & learned a lot about consciousness… our DNA is the antenna to our consciousness & our soul is many lifetimes old.

You’re speaking of a fear & not from a place of awareness.

You’re apparently speaking from retardation.

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It's simple, open source, with locked read-write privileges exclusive to the user. Function is irrelevant without that FOSS baseline.

Always thought the Matrix "I know kung fu" learning potential would be amazing.

It would probably highly depend on the technicals. For example, is it Internet-connected? I'd imagine that makes it a non-starter.

More than the advancements, I’d prioritize that it’s verified open source system with little to no risks… I think. Most of us don’t really know how we’d handle a situation until it’s in our face and we have to make a choice though haha

It's a step beyond ready player one. Makes you question what it is to be human. Even the sci fi utopia literature rarely goes as far as this, probably because the cyborg isn't relatable to the audience.

I wonder what the uni tended consequences of it are. It's a technology that could potentially be non optional - those who don't use it get left behind, like hunter gatheres after farming.

It could be fragile though. Would an emp or a power cut or a computer virus become deadly?

Fascinating avenue of thought.

Until they realise a bug has been causing it to work in the wrong direction.

A clear and safe hardware upgrade (or removal) plan would be my top priority. You don't want to end up with an iPhone 1 stuck in your brain.

EOL would have an entire new, and more literal, meaning.

One thing I learned from Bitcoin and (thanks to you, among others) staying away from shitcoins, is that all the bells and whistles always have trade offs. Privacy on L1 = blockchain bloat etc.

All of these things above sound amazing on the surface but what are those trade offs? Would we be better in many ways but lose the part of the soul that is the essence of humanity? Would we still get the same peace and joy from interacting with nature?

Each person individually will have to make that decision for themselves whenever that time comes, just like with any improvement in technology.

We all know what will make it happen. It’ll be like vhs vs. beta…follow the pronovraphy to see the future.

The nature of men won’t change and desire can’t be negotiated.

cannot be vulnerable to EMP.

the end.

This 👆. Brainrot is bad enough.

EMP could easily gigafry the brain irreversibly.

i might be persuaded to have an optical chip like in Nanotime but never ever electrical

At the current stage in my life only if it would substantially improve a major disability (blindness, paralysis, brain damage, etc). I wouldn’t want be faster, smarter, more aware, more productive. Just to reestablish eventual impairment

Cell phones are close enough without the medical risks of an implant nowadays.

There are obvious benefits to individuals as well as humanly in fixing any kind of mental illness and moving forward together technologically.

The major concerns for me are the medical risk and the ability to verify and understand the functionality of the implant.

I guess if it's FOSS, you could easily verify the code with your new brain instantly after its implanted 😂

Memory of what i said to anyone. And infrared vision, to watch stars.

Probably open source software that can guarantee privacy and updates can’t happen without consent

Thats a bitcoiner talking. 👍

A blood pressure meter and a heart rate meter. Also a temperatture meter.

Overclock the brain to be able to slow down time!

IQ boost and bandwidth increase would be amazing

the proof that I am the only one to control it and that it's unhackable.

So probably not

I think having a smart phone on my person at all times is my hard limit when it comes to integrating or outsourcing human consciousness with technology. Even this relationship with my phone is proving to be problematic & unwieldy with intense trade offs as is.

I feel like there’s something noble & worthwhile in discovering what embodied human consciousness can accomplish without direct intervention from a chip or interference from an implant. The risk of black swans, known unknowns & unknown unknowns far outweigh any potential gains to be had.

In fact, Mother Nature may have already provided us with everything we need for peak, primal, personal evolution, self-actualization and self-transcendence.

Plants > implants

Aside from curing a disability or social pressures, I would require longevity over speed/enhancement. Keep me alive so I can live through more moments.

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I’ll take the odds that I get left behind in society if this ever became successful. What makes someone human? At what point are they not human if their mind works differently or not completely their own?

Maybe tin foil hat, but this would make the mark of the beast blush. No thanks!

Of those listed, the substantial increase in bandwidth taking in kmowledge from computers is enticing, but a double edged sword. You'd only know what was available via computers, you'd be much like others of the same, and your information/memories could not be hidden. Passwords are virtually useless without ties to real world elements, and even then at huge risk.

Because of the above, i'd go with the VR integration, or...

A variation on the bandwidth to computers that is locked down to an off network system that i only get the benefits of downloading when physically there. sneakernet it all.

None currently after watching Severance

Nothing. Life is lived unplugged.

Don't plan to ever get one.

Besides the treatment of disabilities, I expect the mass adoption will be via the administration class being given an ultimatum of brain-computer-interface installation or accept redundancy.

Hundreds of thousands of employees at banks etc. will be run by a few hundred soulless human/droid hybrids.

would have to be fully open source hardware and software and to be totally disconnected unless I used an external device to connect it while I was wanting it and could disconnect it at will such as Bluetooth for example. Also, something tells me that something like this should be nothing but a dumb pipe and have the computing outsourced to an external device such as your smartphone simply due to the fact of hardware upgrades. Somebody farther down in the comments mentioned not wanting the equivalent of an iPhone 1 in their brain and have to switch it out all the time and so a dumb pipe would fix that because the computing hardware would be external.

The day I got my first tooth filling I felt like I'd metamorphosed into being part cyborg. I had failed at being 100% human, and was now dependant on this small foreign body part.

So I'm up for anything now.

Memory enhancement.

Very intriguing reasons but I am still not keen to have a chip in my head.

That it doesn't send any data to Google or the government and runs on 100% FOSS and locally. Other than that, I'm ready and willing.

Much different decision tree depending on disability.

If I’m crippled in some way and it helps majorly, then I’m in. But only if I’m physically incapable of moving.

A chip would be amazing and I’d be happy to be a ghost in the machine.

If I’m a fully capable human, then zero chance.

Mind control today is done through the media and social, imagine the implications if you allow them literally into your brain.

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Assuming the implant is able to communicate externally, nothing. This may be the ultimate decision point that takes me off-grid into full self-sufficient homesteading. I may not survive that decision, but it would still be preferable to the alternative. In some ways, I hope this comes sooner than later, to increase my chances of survival. To get to this point, the implant would be required to continue in profitable and desireable work in society. I assume almost anything that would be implanted at this point would have some means of communication (even basic tracking like rfid), and that would be a no-go. I'm not spending time hopping between faraday cages for privacy.

Direct connection to the non-physical universal consciousness that unites us all?

- alleviating incentive traps (moderation of dopamine reactions etc.)

- increasing happiness (serotonin…)

- enable synesthesia

None whatsoever. Our body is the superior technology with an unlimited adaptive capacity, when learned how to properly use it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US3xwB59864

There is nothing an implant can offer me to get one because no matter the gain, there is always the tradeoff of equal magnitude. Nature demands payment.

Instead, I look forward to the people who don't understand what a tradeoff is to get all the implants, come to believe they are gods who can explore space and inter-dimensional rifts, and leave earth. That way those of us who do know what a tradeoff is can get back to being human.

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a bare minimum would be sovereign control over the interface, from the ground up

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Such an intriguing question, and I'm sure a lot of us are saying NEVER. That's my inclination. But once something like a cybernetic brain implant will save your life, you'll think twice. Even beyond that, imagine the competitive disadvantage you will find yourself having if those around you are increasing their IQs through a procedure like this. The societal gap that could create is hard to wrap your head around, it would be so severe. The incentive structure of something like this would be almost impossible to resist. That said, there will still be a faction that will resist. But how will the digital Amish be treated in a society of high IQ cyborgs?

The potential unintended consequences of skipping ahead in evolutionary terms are mind-boggling.

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A universal remote in my brain

I’m pretty happy with this version of me.

Ability to prevent/cure dementia and other long term malaise related to the brain

Boost IQ = new bull run

Substantially improves a major disability (blindness, paralysis, brain damage, etc). Or makes me forget abuse that led to extreme lack of confidence.

Introducing a threat vector into my brain seems bad...

Unless it's 100% open source, NONE of it.

IQ or bandwidth would be enough. Would have to be >2x what I can get by text/voice conversation with AI without the implant

When they can guarantee the data they collect will never be used to market shit to me in the future!

Sounds like we become the iPhone…

In a world where they change light bulbs to led lights because they discovered in their MK Ultra experiments, that blue lights can help control the masses, where they poison us slowly, I feel reluctant to let them mess with my brain with an implant. Trans humanism and communism, it might seem it benefits us. But think extra hard…

fist one

We are Borg. Resistance is futile…

1 and 4 , separately or together. Also 2 is very tempting but I am slightly scared, i'd only agree if a boost of sensory abilities will go with a boost in brain capacity to process input information received by senses. I am not tempted by IQ boosts bc humans' problem is not low IQ, ability to boost IQ should be only possible with the boost in EI or whatever you call the essence of "humanness" . Tbh my priority would be to remain human , so if any enhancements means that I may become a non-human entity , I'd pass. I think the most secure enhancement from this point of view is only 1 option.

Boost IQ or intelligence, connection with interface, download knowledge, more important. Proven to be safe for a couple decades… maybe somehow decentralized like bitcoin to prevent centralized manipulation…

Nope. None. Not at this point.

Who makes the brain implant? That's the most important thing. Google? Apple? Amazon?

Would do it before I die just to try

What I want is to be able to choose if I want one or not. Before even considering it, it would have to come with extremely strong guarantees of privacy, open source, completely reviewed by many, tested for a couple of decades for safety, etc.

What I fear is that not having one won't be an option, it being required by society (not necessarily government) in one way or another, literally not possible to live without, and it of course being a complete ad-, surveillance-, "nudging"-, etc. filled system, always connected to HQ. I think this is the more likely outcome, like what has largely happened with smartphones.

think I'll just live off my Bitcoin stack and quietly enjoy God's creation

I will pass

I used to be first to sign up rushing to the unimaginable benefits.

then I realized the risk of influence and external control.

can I believe in a sovereign and secure system?there is hope.

What’s the percentage of non-human in the body where the body is no longer human?

Hard pass. Mark of the beast.

Elon Musk is already Prince of the Air, don't you want to accept his brain implants?

I would do it now if it makes me smarter, and able to provide more financially.

IQ boost

I’m going with a wearable. Stay out my brain plz 🧠 🪚🩸

If we create immortality, we'll probably need technological enhancement of long term memory to make important memories last forever.

Other than that, I don't think we need any of this shit. I'd be smart as fuck if it weren't for all the brain damage. Digit is even smarter than me, imagine what she could do if the world was supportive instead of driving her crazy? If we can, let's try to let natural selection cook here.

Well, I sure as shit ain’t beta testing it.

Only because it'll happen you shouldn't do it.

There is yet vast unexplored potential in how humans work.

It's likely a tool to enslave even more people.

I've often thought the same! Another reason could be enhanced memory and recall, allowing for near-perfect retention and instant access to vast amounts of information, making learning and problem-solving significantly more efficient.

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Personally, I don't think I ever would. Most of the stuff on this list could be accomplished with biology (with the obvious exception of the last two), all without introducing the risks of trying to integrate mechanical and biological systems. Cybernetics is the false path in the tech tree! Genetic engineering is the way!

When I can direct myself within to repair my body. Sending in micro robots to repair yourself completely aware.

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