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I lost the private key for nostr:npub1s9jsnqnynrh7wjgy7xr0f5y79wv8kwg38vksk2zedrpgs2vnsraqhzmew7 and it's impossible to recover it, so I created a new account. I hope you all manage your secret keys well.

The one and only thing you realize the more you study history is that people learn absolutely nothing from history.

I think providing Relay operators with some form of economic incentive is essential for a sustainable, decentralized communication ecosystem, and attaching ecash to messages seems like the most sensible solution. I'm not sure if users will accept it, though...

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It's insane to me that the Epstein files are used as a political football by both parties, as well as the voter base of both parties. "Look! Clinton is in the files!" says the red shirt. "Look! Trump is in the files!" says the blue shirt.

It shouldn't matter. Unspeakable things were done to underage girls (and boys) over a long period of time. Incredibly powerful people were (and are) involved. Politicians are implicated across the aisle, obviously, as are three-letter agencies. Some of the kids are ~5yrs old. Some of the photos show toddlers. What the fuck? "Disgusting" doesn't even begin to describe the situation. How broken is the current landscape if the only lens this is viewed through is the political lens?

One thing is worth remembering, however. It used to be a "conspiracy theory". Only a few months ago, talking heads and politicians would try to convince the public that there's no such thing as the Epstein files. Some high-ranking officials said as much under oath, even. What happened to perjury? Is it just a fancy word in today's day and age? I doubt that anyone will go to jail (except to commit "suicide"). And while perjury is a severe crime by most standards, it pales in comparison to what must have happened on the so-called "Lolita Express" that travelled so often to the "Virgin Islands". Oh, how funny. All these names. It would be comical if it wouldn't be so sad. Diabolical, even.

U.S. politics is a joke. The idea of justice as well as the legal system increasingly feels like a joke too. Innocent people are being jailed. Corrupt politicians and other officials are roaming free, because ... what? They are too powerful? Too influential? The system would destabilize too much if things would come to light?

Justitia holds a balance and a sword for a reason, and she wears a blindfold for a reason too. Today's reincarnation has no sword, no blindfold, and the balance she holds is obviously NOT using honest weights and measures.

What a laughable attempt at "transparency". I would laugh if it wouldn't be so horribly, horribly sad.

When an individual has, in any way, accepted or validated a statist system, they cannot entirely disclaim responsibility for its outcomes. As thinkers of the Austrian School have long emphasized, such systems operate inevitably through coercion, privilege, and the suppression of spontaneous order—regardless of which faction happens to hold office. It’s therefore ironic when people celebrate the targeting of those they dislike, only to express shock when the machinery turns against others. If, after recognizing this pattern, one still believes the highest priority is preventing a particular party from gaining office, then of course they would support another—even if it means endorsing the very structure they claim to oppose. Haha.

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Let’s say someone creates a NIP17 groups client that facilitates the kind of purposeful history falsification described in the article below. We’ll call that client Gaslighter. With Gaslighter, for every new message you can create multiple different versions to be seen by each person in the group. These message versions can be completely different to each other, or just subtly different. Either way, when you press send each person gets a different message, and each person thinks the message they’re seeing is what everyone else is seeing. (To be clear each person gets the message customised for them and *does not* get the messages customised for everyone else, so for everyone in the group it's just one new message added to the history, even though you just sent a bunch.)

The UI can be very user-friendly, showing all others in the group and, next to each avatar, the message that each will see when you press send. You can choose to apply one message to everyone and then make little edits per person, or just compose them one by one. You can also group people into sub-groups, create one message for one sub-group and one message for another, and so on.

For pros, you can create a string of messages that includes both dirty messages (messages that some people will get sent but not others) and clean messages (messages that everyone in the group will get sent). This is to help thwart hash-based gap detection, if such a security feature ever enters the NIP17 spec, though in all likelihood this kind of gap detection will be deemed to be so unworkable (at least without *some* exposed metadata) that it won't.

You can also choose to send a message to everyone except one poor person, or except a few poor people. And many other such devious things. Either way, with Gaslighter loaded up and a few minutes of posting you can turn any NIP17 “group” that you're in into this mutant thing where everyone has a comically different chat history to everyone else, and nobody knows it, and these chat histories will never re-align. (And it was all on purpose, by you, not the result of missed events.)

Why would you do this? Most likely for fun. Messing with friends’ minds. “You guys will never believe what happened to me this morning!” you send to all three others in a group. Then you send a different story to all three at once. The first story is shocking and unlucky, the second is shocking and lucky, and the third is just boring, hardly a story at all. Everyone gets very confused by everyone else’s reaction, and eventually you tell them about Gaslighter and everyone goes lol. (That said, after having played around with Gaslighter for a bit, even just having fun with friends, you’re probably always going to be on your mental guard when in a NIP17 group.)

But when you start to consider the social-engineering attack surface here, it’s not so funny anymore (see the article below for an example). If NIP17 groups take off then at some point some normie user is going to get unfairly scammed in this way. I say unfairly because it’s clearly unfair to put it on the normie user to understand that the group chat history can potentially be manipulated to be different for each participant. (Key word, purposefully; not just missing a message here or there but socially engineered by an attacker so that each person has the history that the attacker wants them to have.)

This is just not in keeping with how modern users understand group chats to work. If a normie user does get scammed in this way, you can be pretty sure the first question on his or her mind after being clued in to the scam will be “How was that even possible?”

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I never realized NIP-17 was this vulnerable to gaslighting—I thought scale was its only weakness. This definitely shifts the conversation toward whether Nostr needs an MLS-style approach for secure groups.

I'm living in this country, and it's fucking terrible. Especially in Korea, there's a personal identification ID for everyone, and real-name verification is mandatory for virtually all financial systems. Since this is mostly done through phone, avoiding it is nearly impossible.

I'm only fortunate because I've already moved all my assets into Bitcoin and physical gold/silver, but my monthly salary still comes in fiat currency... I really need to figure out a way to quickly switch to earning Bitcoin as income, but I can't find a feasible solution yet. Alternatively, I should make as much money as I need to live on as fast as possible and flee to a country with a lower cost of living. Honestly, the whole situation here is just utterly fucked.

I decided to have steak for dinner tonight.

What I meant wasn’t the airport itself, but border control—there was some room for misunderstanding. Even those granted entry are forced to give up all privacy, subjected to interrogation and scrutiny by the state. And nighttime curfews in parks? That goes without saying. I could keep listing such examples forever.

In a society where property rights are truly protected, pursuing one’s own interests without force isn’t flawless—but it is by far the best system we have. Nothing beats it. You might cite cases where profit-seeking leads to neglect of safety or fairness, but even those cases are almost always driven by government coercion. Take the most tragic reality of our time: children being killed in bombings during war—there’s a clear, horrifying example. Who’s most responsible for enabling such horrors? Right. The government.

The landowner of private property will exert every effort to attract people to their land in order to gain profit—voluntarily, not because they're forced to. This is far more sustainable. In contrast, public spaces, which are supposed to be freely accessible, often end up being even more restrictive. Just go to an airport once, and you'll understand.

Expression of strong support for freedom of speech typically leads to counterarguments like the cases mentioned by nostr:npub10000003zmk89narqpczy4ff6rnuht2wu05na7kpnh3mak7z2tqzsv8vwqk and nostr:npub1t3ggcd843pnwcu6p4tcsesd02t5jx2aelpvusypu5hk0925nhauqjjl5g4 — situations which most people, including the original poster, would find unacceptable (for example, threatening or sexually harassing someone's children). Faced with such cases, the original argument usually retreats, resulting in the conclusion that completely unrestricted free speech is impossible. In my view, this conclusion generally stems from profoundly statist biases.

Specifically, it arises from the illusion that vice can only be corrected through the coercive force of a violent monopoly — the state.

However, genuine freedom of speech can only be consistently and logically achieved through rigorous defense of private property rights. Notice how problematic examples are almost always set in "public spaces" — but the very existence of such spaces is the root of the problem.

Imagine a fully free society. In this world, there is no such thing as a "public space." Every piece of land is privately owned, and access is granted solely at the owner's discretion. In such a scenario, offensive or insulting speech? There would be no need for laws restricting speech. Instead, basic common courtesy — polite requests to refrain from offensive remarks — would suffice. If someone ignores the landowner's request, they become, by definition, a trespasser. They will then be treated as an unlawful intruder — subject to removal or other responses appropriate to illegal entry on private property. Ta-da! No law restricting freedom of speech, yet vice is corrected?

We must abandon the illusion that only state violence can correct immoral behavior.

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I have a question for a hardcore Bitcoiner: what are your thoughts on the issue linked here? If you look at my history, you’ll see that I’m not trying to troll or start an argument—I am asking out of genuine curiosity.

I consider you to be one of the most influential Bitcoiners on Nostr (unlike those who just treat Bitcoin as a "get rich quick" scheme based on hearsay). I’m asking you specifically because I believe you have likely given serious thought to problems like this.

It seems inevitable that in the future, the mempool will be flooded with just channel-opening transactions. When that day comes, and ordinary people can no longer afford the fees for even a single on-chain transaction, how will they be able to own Bitcoin?

If there is no way for them to do so, wouldn't that essentially negate Bitcoin’s greatest advantage? If there is a solution, what is it?

Oh, of course. Regardless of the ultimate debate over whether gold or Bitcoin is the 'true money' that will endure longer, I do agree with you that those selling Bitcoin now to buy gold and silver will soon regret it. But just to be clear, my question isn't about the near future.

Are there any technologies that can remotely disable surveillance cameras? Something like a miniaturized EMP or similar?

I think the true final boss might be IP addressing and the routing system itself.

Being at a resort with a poor internet connection has made the performance differences between Nostr clients strikingly obvious. nosotros seems to be the best. Of course, this might require a deduction based on how well it adheres to the Outbox model, so a simple comparison based on initial loading speed alone might not be a fair assessment.

Originally, the top performer in this area was nostr:nprofile1qqs24yz8xftq8kkdf7q5yzf4v7tn2ek78v0zp2y427mj3sa7f34ggjcpzamhxue69uhhv6t5daezumn0wd68yvfwvdhk6tcpzpmhxue69uhkummnw3ezumt0d5hszrnhwden5te0dehhxtnvdakz769wywf but it slowed down a bit after the Outbox model update a few months ago.

​In reality, we can't really know how perfectly nostr clients construct the feed using the Outbox model. Since most people designate at least one large, popular relay as their outbox relay, it would be difficult to notice if a client doesn't actually support the Outbox model.

​As a side note, nostr:nprofile1qqsraldwhvwcjgltmxwfu7kw8dqef2692yhzheuurd7k3kfy8cxjdqgpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhszxthwden5te0wajkccm0d4jjumn0wd68ytnhd9hx2tcpzemhxue69uhk2er9dchxummnw3ezumrpdejz7n4mh2x android was the only one that worked even when the internet connection was completely severed. This must be due to it fetching the feed from a local database rather than a relay, building the feed, and continuing to accumulate data in the local DB in the background. It's fast, too.

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Keychat's one-to-one chats and small groups are encrypted using the Signal protocol. Moreover, a small group is a pairwise group; when a member sends a group message, it essentially sends a one-to-one message to the other members. Therefore, the encryption security of small groups is almost equivalent to that of one-to-one chats, but the number of members it can support is limited.

Consequently, our large groups are encrypted with MLS.

The Signal protocol is more suitable for one-to-one chats than MLS because its post-compromise security (PCS) ratcheting occurs more frequently.

Additionally, all Keychat messages (whether one-to-one, small group, or large group) can be intuitively understood using the metaphor of a "letter.” 👇

Keychat uses Signal/MLS protocol to ensure message encryption security and meta-data privacy.

The content of the letter can be exposed easily by opening the envelope. Keychat messages are end-to-end encrypted via Signal/MLS protocol, with a unique encryption key generated for each message. Only the sender and receiver can decrypt the message.

The addresses of both parties on the envelope can be tracked. In theory, this problem is solved if they change addresses daily. So Keychat reuses Signal/MLS protocol to update sending and receiving addresses for nearly every message.

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"when a member sends a group message, it essentially sends a one-to-one message to the other members. Therefore, the encryption security of small groups is almost equivalent to that of one-to-one chats, but the number of members it can support is limited."

Because of this, some Nostr clients seem to have trouble distinguishing whether a message delivered to me is from a small group chat or a 1-to-1 DM. I've been switching between so many different clients that I've forgotten which ones they were.

I asked that person about the question, and he also didn't think there was any particular reason it had to be that way. It seems likely to be one of those things in Bitcoin’s history that weren't technically necessary, but were simply implemented by Satoshi that way—and now it can't really be changed, so it's just left as-is. Looks like my guess was right.

This is true. If you believe that some kind of taxation is "necessary," or at least a necessary evil, then it can be said that Bitcoin will never be used completely freely as money. Of course, outright banning Bitcoin is not an easy task even for governments. But there's a much easier way. Rather than tampering with the internet, governments could simply make it illegal not to issue (government-reportable) receipts when someone pays via Bitcoin (or cash, gold, silver—anything enabling payments that don't leave a trace on the state's surveillance network). Then offer rewards for reporting or informing on others, and you'll have self-righteous Gestapo-like citizens scurrying around, eager to snitch, believing they're contributing to a just society. The result would be a society where citizens monitor other citizens.

If you truly understand what fiat money is, then you can understand what kind of entity a government is that forces us to use it—and understanding that allows you to grasp what taxes really are. Anyone who believes taxes and the state are in some way necessary thereby contributes to building a surveillance and control society.

There are even self-proclaimed "Bitcoiners" who loudly cry out for freedom when the government obstructs them, but cheer when it tramples on those they dislike; people who shout that inflation is theft when criticizing Democrats, yet stay silent when Republicans engage in money printing. Isn't that amusing?

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I remember something that happened in some country. After a robbery occurred in a park at night, the government announced a measure to address it: making park entry at night illegal. Of course, it's easy to understand. From the government's perspective, it's much simpler and easier to just crush innocent citizens who merely wanted an evening walk than to actually catch criminals. lol

Depending on the client, you might be able to delete a repost, but in Nostr, deletion merely means publishing a new deletion request event. This means that relays may choose not to accept the deletion request. Even if a relay does accept the deletion request, if someone has already seen your repost, it's highly likely that the repost won't disappear from their local device.

오스트리아 학파의 관점을 알기 쉬우면서도 핵심을 빠뜨리지 않고 잘 설명한 좋은 자료네요. 세금이야말로 실제로 필요하지 않은 정부 발행 명목화폐의 강제적인 수요를 창출하여 이 모든 경제적 문제를 만들어낸 원흉인데 참 이걸 받아들이는 것이 쉽지 않은 거 같네요.

신용화폐는 시민의 부를 체계적으로 정부에게로 이전하는 시스템이라는 걸 깨닫는다면 그걸 우리에게 강요하는 정부가 어떤 존재인지 한번 의문을 품어볼직함도 한데 그 마지막 한 걸음을 내딛게 하는 것이 참 어려운 거 같습니다

It seems like Bitcoin's DLC (Discreet Log Contract) functionality could act as a privatized form of justice. Are there any actual implemented services for this? I'm imagining a system where a reputable oracle pre-publishes a finite set of choices, and two participants bet on which choice will be the final outcome, something along those lines.

Furthermore, if my understanding is correct, it seems this functionality could be implemented without either participant needing to interact with the oracle beforehand, as long as both participants agree on the outcome. Other than the oracle publicly pre-announcing the choices and its public key, the oracle would only need to "do something" and issue a judgment if and when the two participants disagree.

Yeah, the incentive for Nostr relay operators isn't really clear right now, so it makes sustainable operation tough. It'd be great if a certain percentage of those zaps could go to the relay operators. For that to happen though, everyone would need to get on board with NWC wallets.

I just reinstalled 0xchat after deleting it, and while I was messing with the settings, I remembered I had some ecash in my 0xchat wallet.

I just realized another revenue stream for the mint, beyond Lightning Network routing fees or withdrawal fees. Congratulations to the mint!

Considering that ecash is mostly used in very small denominations, people likely won't bother backing it up carefully. If you add up all these unclaimed funds, it'll amount to a significant sum.