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Replying to Avatar Guy Swann

Is it just me, or does it seem like everyone is super reluctant to monetize services and relays on #Nostr?

If we can’t make these things sustainable then we will either lose them, or they will stay nothing more than a weird little corner of the internet with lots of hope but no chance of ever scaling.

I still haven’t seen the basic model of zap sharing tried by any major client or relay. But I DO see regularly comments about how expensive relays are. I mean it might not work, but can’t we TRY it?

I want to make the distinction here too that this doesn’t mean we are closing off the network, we are adding permissions to the protocol, this doesn’t suggest at all to used closed source code, we simply need the services necessary to keep this ecosystem robust, to be profitable and have the resources to thrive. If they aren’t, then NONE of this works. Economics is everything.

I know building features is more exciting. I know we all want to make everything that we can free, and I agree all of the *code* should be shared. However, I think there is a natural insecurity (and I say this because I have this problem personally) with charging a fair price, and fearing criticism or the ire of people who believe everything should be free (as in price) when we need things to be free (as in Liberty). They are not the same, and confusing the two could stifle, or drastically slow down, the insane potential of this place.

TL;DR We have GOT to divert some energy to thinking about how to make this ecosystem sustainable, or we will lose it.

(Disclaimer: this isn’t a judgement on whoever is thinking about this problem. It just *seems* like few are. If you are building in this way please share your ideas or what you are trying. I’m extremely interested)

Free can't be the default. A circular economy is... circular. We've gotten free stuff in the past because we were being monitized.

Replying to Avatar 🐉AT ₿01

Win at what?

Pretty sure this is because Amethyst is currently Android only, so many wouldn't be able to look at the link. Snort is desktop and mobile friendly. I've started to just copy the note id. Then people can search for it in whatever interface they use.

Thank you for the work you're doing.

Feel happy. Better than days/weeks/months by horse and/or sailboat. 😉

1. NostrTube utilizing bit-torrent or some kind of CDN subscription.

2. Band/Media profiles that bands can host their media in their profile and get zapped. Could also encompass past/future live streams.

3. List items for sale on my via Nostr markets on my personal profile.

Could it maybe be linked to a specific hosted folder or you just set up to 5-6 individual photos? A nostr.build folder, for example, or group of photos on a web server would be cool.

Got a chance to see them in concert with MxPx and Dingees. Was a fun show!

You're welcome. Are there any specific pieces of hardware you're really needing?

I use Amethyst, Snort, Coracle, Primal and haven't run into it yet. Seems to be caused by the way specific clients deal with relays.