Ants solving a puzzle https://cdn.nostrcheck.me/1850036747adad7a599be9452937757ff5278c276e13924f6987655a3adee594.mp4
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Creatividade e trabalho de equipe segredo do sucesso
Wild. Thanks for sharing. Now I have to look up how ants communicate lol
dude wtf
This is incredible!! 🤯
is this a simulation or real
omf wow
meanwhile 😂😂
most humans are so arrogant that often do not acknowledge the intelligence of other species in this planet, there are some fascinating studies about how other species communicate... If you follow only fiat science, most probably you never heard of it, Rupert Sheldrake comes to mind , check his book about dogs ( https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0307885968/ )
His site with tons of Intel, rest a bit from the Eco chamber of lies of fiat science :
amazing
¡Fascinante!
Stupid ants. I solved this puzzle almost twice as fast.
Swarm intelligence is more like AI, than human intelligence is, but it can come to the same effect.
This is both amazing, inspiring, and unsettling for some reason. Thanks for sharing!
The famous natural order...
most humans are so arrogant that often do not acknowledge the intelligence of other species in this planet, there are some fascinating studies about how other species communicate... If you follow only fiat science, most probably you never heard of it, Rupert Sheldrake comes to mind , check his book about dogs ( https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0307885968/ )
His site with tons of Intel, rest a bit from the Eco chamber of lies of fiat science :
Crazy. boggles the mind.
Emergent order? Distributed consciousness?
Staff!
Emergent effects is where the signal truly is.
Amazing. Why are they doing it? Is there reward associated with the object being on the right side?
Found something. The physorg article says "They joined because they were misled into thinking that the heavy load was a juicy edible morsel that they were transporting into their nest."
lol of course, they were tricked into it
That's what I assumed. The reason to persist is to bring a big piece of food back to the colony.
Now that is a great question. It’s fun to watch, but trial and error is not some form of higher intelligence. Why did the group persist though?
Without an objective, it would be just like Brownian motion.
Don't know about that, if not edited that video appears to show more than trial and error (which would involve more senseless repetition).
Just a personal opinion but to me intelligence would be based on the fact that they learned their strategy during previous attempts and/or they carry this strategy forward to future attempts.
In isolation we know nothing else about why they succeeded other than trial and error. If they were not successful we would be more inclined to ignore it and move on.
For all GLORY TO THE QUEEN!!!
Incredible
Ok, that is cool...who knew?
This moment, when they pull it out and go like "let's try from the other side" makes me uncomfortable with my own understanding of intelligence
Imagine the amount of communication and coordination required to pull this off. wow!
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The implication here of how much communication and coordination is going on here is wild. Shows how insanely little we understand about them. They are a networked species for certain.
That's also how individual molecules move around. That's why they can look alive. nostr:nprofile1qqsdcnxssmxheed3sv4d7n7azggj3xyq6tr799dukrngfsq6emnhcpspz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7qgmwaehxw309a6xsetxdaex2um59ehx7um5wgcjucm0d5hsz9nhwden5te0dp5hxapwdehhxarj9ekxzmny9u78m52f has some unnerving videos about this.
Thanks for the tag! To respond to your comment about looking alive - When we watch ants coordinate or see particles move in simulations, it can be difficult to tell them apart, but there is a crucial distinction. A distinction that is also sorely neglected in conversations about designed simulation/tools vs life, which also points to your comment nostr:npub1h8nk2346qezka5cpm8jjh3yl5j88pf4ly2ptu7s6uu55wcfqy0wq36rpev about how little we understand, or how research can be biased to specific framworks.
Ants and other organic systems contain an anticipatory aspect, there is always a forward 'thinking' aspect within organisms that orients their actions, to which everything else flows for their end goals. That anticipation tells the system what is their north star. A signal to what the end goal is, and a signal to the system to move around or through obstacles. Once that is identified, and the actuators (from tools like a keyboard to muscles and bones) have been aligned and working, all actions cascade through to solve that specific system's problem via 'reactive' processes. Once the compass is oriented correctly, and all the mechanisms are in working order, it all flows through.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP3zeHyWakw
In the video, the intentionality comes from humans. Orienting their actuators (code, activating computer logic) to produce this simulation. There is no 'meaning' beyond the immediate interactions and billiards interactions. So no simulation/tool can ever be alive on its own because their telos is derived externally. Tools and simulations can only be 'alive' through continuous calibration with their creators. Regardless, its insane how we can tune systems with the forethought to produce such behaviors.
I'll also add that, if we can agree that a tool's external telos is defined by a Organic System (an 'agent' within Complexity, from single cells to ecosystems and organizations), what does that imply about us? Sure, our telos to a degree is internally defined, but we still exist within larger systems, and the behavior of those larger systems can be described by what orients that larger system - without even describing us as individual components just as we can talk to each other at levels higher than the individual cells or proteins that make us up. So think about the ever expanding larger systems we belong to, from intimate partnerships to society and beyond. The very fact that we are subsystems of the Natural World means we inherit some form of orientation from it.
Really. Take a few moments to ponder that - what might be the 'thing' we inherit from the largest all encompassing system that could orient us?
God
No kidding.
Nostr hive mind
gif buddy fixes this, mostly 🤙
This is how we win
crazy
Amazing. Thanks for sharing.
Do you know if this experiment compared humans on different settings of organization?
So glad spiders don't do this
Merry Christmas.
Not sure I get this. What is the incentive for the ants to thread that through the gaps apart from blocking the way?
we should ask them to build a nostr client.
Read Children of Time by Adrian Tchaikovsky for more like this. 🤯
Fun and rather out there scifi.
I like this
fascinating
Is this how God feels of us? 😂