My main issue with nostr is that it seems like the people here are almost exclusively laser-eye maxis.

When I want to reach those guys, I donโ€™t need a special app: I just tweet on Twitter with carefully selected trigger keywords, and sure enough, one of them will screenshot it and post here and make sure all laser-eyes see it.

Are there some non-laser-eyes here? Make yourself known in the comments!

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Just because we are bitcoin maximalists mostly over here doesnโ€™t mean we donโ€™t talk about other things in the world โ€ฆ just not crypto. Stick around, you might like it!

iโ€™ll try! btw, bitcoin is a cryptocurrency

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Laser eyes have a disconnect with reality

Troll

Followed!

What's up with the divisiveness

Sorry. But wouldnโ€™t you agree that the userbase here is fairly homogenous?

Thereโ€™s other options: blue sky, mastodon, etc. Maybe youโ€™ll find your crowd somewhere like that

Thatโ€™s his grift. Heโ€™s basically a human wedge issue attempting to divide the bitcoin community. Spook or organic is unknown. Not to be taken seriously regardless

Do the same thing here with hashtags. #grownostr #footstr heheheh #foodstr etc. See what turns up. I'm not laser eyed, friend.

I own a couple shitcoins

๐Ÿคฃ

LOL

Miladys are on the way

I do the best bad jokes around here

Why did the coffee file a police report?

It got mugged! โ˜•๏ธ๐Ÿ˜„

Followed!

haha followed

gonna try to zap later, canโ€™t from here iโ€™m on my iphone

Got one brewed just for you

What's a coffee's favorite type of karate?

โ˜•โ˜•โ˜•โ˜•โ˜•

Kona-fu.

nostr: note1674nferjhu4zpqwmnufl4qw397ynj9xvndq32jjp3jtwjmc640uqfgxa7d

youโ€™ve been here for 5 minutes retard, add mostr.pub and explore some other relays

Explain

youโ€™ll figure it out

He still ainโ€™t figure shit out huh

Y he here dis was cool without him.. I asked for inversebrah n get udi ? fml

Lol. Check the global feed. There's quite a variety of people

Followed!

So it's so maxi in here that I'm not sure how to answer this question anymore.

I follow people who are bitcoin but...more normal. And use mostr to follow other more punk people ... And also a few libertarians. Matt taibbi is here sometimes.

๐Ÿž Hi! It is me, Sur Degen! I have no laxer eyes and I canโ€™t manage to get to called maxi either โ€ฆ or maybe maxi Degen into shitcoins? ๐Ÿž

I am not an laser-eye but just to try and enjoy this platform

Iโ€™m not a maxi at all. I own zero BTC or any other cryptocurrencies. But you are correct that there are a lot of maxis here and they are also noisier than regular people.

The ethos of Nostr is the ethos of Bitcoin - thatโ€™s why there is so much overlap.

#DecentralizeEverything

What's a laser-eye maxi?

Bitcoin maximalists

I don't think so, otherwisre he would've just referred to maxis.

I think it might be somehow related being "laser-focused" or "sharply correct" or it maybe some Lightning related reference ๐Ÿค”

No, they are just Bitcoin maxis. It was en vogue a year or two ago to change the eyes in your Twitter pic to laser eyes as a way of signaling being a Bitcoin person.

You'll leave when you figure out blocks only keep you from seeing their posts. They can still follow you and debunk your bullshit every post and everyone else will still see it.

This is true for all social media. I remember when I first signed up for CompuServe all that everyone talked about was computers. Then gradually people started talking about other things as more users joined.

Bring more of your friends here and that will be less of an issue!

Present ๐Ÿซก

Bitcoiner since '11. Mostly maxi. Think Monero has value. Consider you be a troll.

Label me however you want I guess.

I shall label you bait-taker

*sigh*

I don't call myself a maxi as I enjoy learning and using other crypto platforms. I even invest in them because I believe in the project or projects.

There's a lot of great tech out there and use cases for other blockchains and etc

Thanks for replying

Did you miss me, you piece of shit?

not really, i visited nyc recently, filled my mental quota of depressing bums over there

I know you didn't. It was rhetorical. I'm just so excited.

Do you think Udi knows you canโ€™t delete tweets here???

Does he know you canโ€™t really block here ??? ๐Ÿ˜

Probably. He's an intelligent guy.

Yes, but I am not very interesting.

๐Ÿ‘Œ

Deez is here

yeah i saw him at a party with yo

Not sure it's Lazer eyes that are the issue. I'm Definitely not a "Lazer eye", yet you still block people for challenging your ideas.

where did i ever say that i only block laser-eyes?

So just people with dissenting opinions?

To each their own I guess.

i think you're only frustrated because you didn't take the time to think this through from the other person's point of view (mine)

i have 170k+ followers on twitter, most of them are actually happy with my content (naturally, otherwise they wouldn't have been consuming it) and are mostly positive

but i'm just a person like anyone else - i do not owe anyone my time or attention. i can't reply and entertain anyone who happens to feel angry about something and furiously reply about it. i have better things to do

and it's not just about my own time and attention. when i go into arguments on twitter with the angry minority, that arguments gets viewed by the rest of my audience. i have a responsibility to broadcast to my audience the content they want to see, not arguments with haters.

so when people repeatedly take cheap shots, especially when it's related to topics that i've addressed before and have no new information to add to, i tend to just block and move on.

it's not personal, it's just something that people with large accounts tend to do in order to maintain a quality standard

Lol so now you're an influencer and you do it "for your fans" ๐Ÿ‘Œ.

I appreciate the responses today, but you sound an awful lot like the scammer you used to call out.

You block people for proving you inaccurate or incorrect, because you are worried about your rep and your clout, because you now have monetized it.

Don't hide behind it being some other lofty ideal.

Guess after all this time in crypto you realized becoming an influencer and cashing out was your true passion.

I could care less about your fans, you never cared about them before either. I used to enjoy the open discourse and intelligent conversation. Now it's just believe what I post as truth or get blocked for questioning it.

if you donโ€™t enjoy it, donโ€™t consume it

why are you in this thread? you donโ€™t seem to want to have a conversation. you make assumptions about my intents and motives, based on nothing but pure speculation. are you enjoying this? do you think this anger is healthy for you?

I'm trying to understand those motives you say I am making assumptions about, but you seem to prefer to deflect rather than answer.

So you are telling me there isn't financial motive? I'd like to understand what it is if it isn't that.

You went from preaching sovereign ownership of crypto, decentralization, and freedom, to promoting centralize custodials, POS, and NFTs.

That's a pretty big 180. From being on CT for years it seems strange that you would change your stance so drastically.

PS I have no issue with ordinals.

Before this reply you didnโ€™t ask any questions, so how can you say Iโ€™m deflecting rather than answer?

I tried to explain my point of view, and then you made a bunch of assumptions and assertions about my motives. Where did I deflect anything?

I think everyone has financial motives. It would be silly to pretend that I donโ€™t. But I donโ€™t think thereโ€™s anything wrong with that. I also had financial motives when I chose to get into bitcoin and tell everyone I know about it.

My thoughts on custody evolved after spending thousands of hours helping people learn about self-custody. Iโ€™ve seen countless people choose to pass on investing in bitcoin early, because they found self-custody confusing. If they used coinbase instead, theyโ€™d be way better off.

So my belief today is that self-custody needs to exist as an option, and power users like you and me will probably use it, but MOST people will not. They need good custodial options.

I assume youโ€™re probably referring to some specific one but this reply is already very long so Iโ€™ll let you say what is the specific thing youโ€™re bothered about and we can continue from there

That's not an argument... ;)

Bien pensรฉ si on y connait en com

You live in a world where the people with incentives to build something like nostr are laser eyes maxis. You may not like it but its how things are.

the people with incentives to build a cesspool of laser-eye maxis are laser-eye maxis? that's not particularly shocking

Leave it to this mouth breather to completely ignore the protocol and the principles it was designed with and to instead focus on "the maxis". Deja Vu

Iโ€™ve been accused of my profile pic being just a laser eye. Does that count? #bitcoin

haha i kind of like it

shit i have laser eyes ๐Ÿ˜ณ

youโ€™re kinda right

itโ€™d be nice to see things grow beyond bitcoin stuff

Yeah many of my most interesting follows are twitter-exclusive still

Such as?

So what personal growth are you working on? Hows it going?

Eyeing what nostr relay to run

Un de nos tabous linguistiques qui perdurent ๐Ÿ™

Not it

No.

Depends... what is a laser eyes person? The Nostr equivelant of a redditor?

Welcome Udi

Welcome!

Heโ€™s not really. Heโ€™s a troll and contributes nothing but consternation.

thanks! been here for a few months :)

Considering those are the people who are working on this protocol amd being centered around bitcoin lightning payments, what did you expect? But it's an open protocol, you can do whatever you want. ๐Ÿป

you can fuck if you don't like it. Build your own protocol or something who cares!

Who hurt you?

Learn about the #grownostr initiative. https://www.thesurvivalpodcast.com/lets-grow-nostr

He wonโ€™t be interested. Heโ€™s only interested in trolling bitcoiners and will probably leave when he realizes he wonโ€™t be able to delete his terrible notes

thanks iโ€™ll check it out

I'm a Micropig

โ€œI just tweet on Twitterโ€

Yeah you lost me there

I like btc but not sure have I yet enterd the laser eye stage.

Typical engagement farming trickery. Ask yourselves why Udi needs to try to influence so much?

Not a laser eye. I havenโ€™t seen anyone I follow care about what you say, twitter or otherwise. Iโ€™m also new here. Who are you?

Heโ€™s a troll, but donโ€™t trust me. Youโ€™ll see as such from himself. Welcome BTW! We are friendly, but donโ€™t take too kindly to Bullshit.

Yeah, I understand now. Low effort โ€œdunksโ€. This is most of what twitter was. Hopefully these kinds of people that spout this nonsense get bored here and go back to twitter. and the productive people (no matter what they work on) come and stay on nostr.

Cope and seethe, faggot.

No laser-eyes here. I even work in shitcoin-land, but I love BTC.

Here for the shits and giggles. Everybody chill.

What's your project?

Chainlink node operator.

I'm here, here is a picture of green beans.

Are you here for freedom or not bruh!

hmm no i wouldnโ€™t say iโ€™m on this app for freedom tbh

What are you here for? Just curious

just visiting for now

I think udi gave up on freedom a long time ago in place of grifting to make a buck. To the extent that is was ever anything other than that in the first place

I have fought hard for the freedom to say what I want, and not what the mob wants me to say

Been flourishing ever since

One day youโ€™ll understand

You may say what you want. I'm a freedom of speech absolutist and will support that right for you. But that includes my freedom to voice my disagreement with your statements and behavior.

What are you even disagreeing with lmao

Moi non et la plupart non, la libertรฉ par son individualitรฉ est propre ร  chaque quidam

Heyo. Gamer, weeb, techie, vtuber, among other things, and pushing for those content here on #nostr so that others would find them and grow it =3

If you can't find the content you desire, create the content yourself and be that person for another =)

C'est ร  ce niveau nous les Hommes ne sont pas รฉgaux donc nรฉcessitรฉ de mettre au niveau afin qu'il sent รฉgal ร  tous ๐Ÿคฒ

I don't personally use any cryptocurrency. Nostr seems like a wonderful place to meet and interact with people, regardless of their interests or walks of life. If people want their laser eyes, why not let them be?

Oh so that's why I can't zap your cool comment nostr:npub1euerarmncav5we7jxtdd6jc4mkej5sjzwl3txpdx3fmwrxj8tvuqg4yf4f๐Ÿคญ

Aidez le peut-รชtre pour la config d'un wallet? Je fus honteuse non contributive pour ceux de l'ombre les Devis ๐Ÿ™‡โ€โ™€๏ธ

Ai le sentiment des jours d'avoir un mixage de tous que je rebute aprรจs avoir explorรฉ les outils de outils de Meta, Snapchat,...sauf Tik Tok aux vues de certaines notes venant des mรชmes notriches ai peur pour eux car en danger pourtant tout est les mots usitรฉs

I have ironic laser eyes. agreed that nostr needs more non-plebs.

I'm here! We exist ๐Ÿคฃ

You can show your food here as well. We like food. But please donโ€™t accidentally search foot. People reading this reply, you know who you are!

Try Farcaster

Le mot est trop technique et spรฉcifique pour le monde

En 2 mots c'est plus simple non Cameri, merci pour le feedback qui se ratifie sauf pour les compliments

Pardon moi, je ne parle pas Franรงais ๐Ÿ˜…

It's based on your follows... Nostr still struggles with independent discoverability, so our feeds are mostly what we import from (Bitcoin) Twitter.

Nostr has resonated with others as well, but it's hard to find them without better discover tooling.

can you share some recommendations?

My follows are mostly bitcoiners, so I don't have a lot of specific recommendations for you, but I did have some success searching for hashtags #ethereum to find nostr:npub136vtgm9q3k2jkeveyhgl5mt5hjdvmcs8kcaf2nhd2d7thc4z5xaqru0qyr. Not sure if the #tron hashtag has really taken off, but maybe you can help ๐Ÿ˜‚.

Another strategy to apply is to actually log in with someone else's Nostr pubkey. You won't be able to post as them, but can see exactly what they see and maybe find better follows.

Thatโ€™s a really neat idea!

Coming around to nostr a little Udi?

Cette phase d'observation et analyse est indispensable

A moins de vouloir prendre nostr pour les outils de Mรฉta (un drame pausible sur nous nos notes ..(l'occurance de mots utilisรฉs, en soi, certaines curiositรฉs ubuesques recurantes..) rรฉvรจlent sont des signaux (maux)..je suivis puisque c'est ma came l'analyse des interactions humaines (une richesse ce terreau ) ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿคฒ๐Ÿ’ญ

Defi degens are also slowly moving to nostr, especially after twitter killed nitter.

Maybe instead of intentionally triggering the almost sensitive of maxis on twitter, you can engage in good faith discussions with the non-aggressive maxis here that are also willing to engage in good faith discussions.

You allow the aggressive maxis you attract on twitter with trigger words to shape your perception of the entire maxi demographic. Perhaps nostr could be a good place for you to learn that not everyone is as aggressive as you perceive, and many maxis are actually very reasonable in their approach.

Welcome ๐Ÿซ‚

Whatโ€™s a laser-eyed maxie?

Can be pretty cult-ish in here. True echo chamber

I am sorry the maxis hurt you Udi. Feel free to go back to your safe space of Twitter where crypto idiots will clap like seals at your incessant whining over maxis. The schtick has got boring long ago.

Pas cool entre notriches

I legit have em cause I like em ๐Ÿ˜ I do believe that Nostr & Btc are a good match to support each other in showcasing value4value and other decentralised communication apps. Only here on Nostr have I seen this play out as nicely as it does ๐ŸคŸ

Can't help but notice your lack of total zaps on Nostr.

This is what happens when you surround yourself with shitcoiners and minimalists.

The mirror of bitcoin shows you what your followers think of you.

Ou incapacitรฉ de crรฉer un portefeuille ou les clรฉs de plus il faut passer par Github, sur cette phase j'ai moi mรชme rencontrer des bugs sur mes clรฉs et mon portefeuille vient tout d'รชtre crรฉรฉ mais d'รฉquerre. Ceux sur lesquels depuis dรฉcembre รฉtaient plus obnubilรฉs par leurs propres projets sur nostr

โ€œCarefully selected trigger wordsโ€? ๐Ÿคก

It's the maxis building nostr, for folks like you to express your opinion on...

Imo, vibes where better not having shitcoiners and woke blue birdies here.

I came here when twitter rate limiting started a couple days ago since there were a few big accounts worth lurking through nitter. Saw it posted on hackernews. Not a "bitcoiner" or "maxi". It seems to share the problem of most crypto sycophant spaces that most of the software is built primarily by and for people already bought into crypto ideas and can't figure out how to not shove it in the face of everyone else. I assume having a curated set of relays would address some of it but there doesn't seem to be a good way to find them. The majority seem at best overlapped with the bitcoin nutcase community.

that said there have been a few decent memes between soapbox sessions.

Cryptocurrency skeptic here

I think almost all uses of blockchain have been scams, and that that the fervent behavior of the enthusiasts is akin to a religion. There are a few idealist among them, which I respect, though I don't share their libertarian anti-government politics

So I dislike the current prevalent culture on Nostr

But I really like the elegance of the protocol

I'm trying to figure out if it is possible to use Nostr in a way that allows different groups to gather with more like-minded people, which is what Mastodon/ActivityPub is good at

Currently I'm working on a project to help people pick relays to avoid topics they are not interested in

Suivi d'office en vous attendant...

not laser-eyes!

I'm intrigued with nostr as it relates to sharing event data - chat/twitter-esque is interesting but the underlying architecture and relay/filter capability is more interesting.

Here

If you are around TLV I would love to link up

Your complaint is there are no scammers?

Well, you're here now

Il y a qu'ร  mรชme des moutons noirs dans le troupeau

Maybe use your Twitter reach to encourage more people to come here. Posting annoying notes purely to get engagement from us cult members adds no value. Be better fren.

Freedom maxi! It counts?

Stay on Twitter then

inb4 the sunglasses are there to hide laser eyes

For some reason I like you on #Nostr and blocked you on Twitter. Here you are adding to biodiversity. :D

can't block here bitch

Muted

Jk

followed you both

Back at you ๐Ÿค™

You should start a band called Udi and the Blowfish.

I would buy your cds and vinyls using the lightning network.

I think maxis wonโ€™t mind you to fully express yourself. On the other hand, Scammers, con artists and marketers would rather prefer other popular platforms and newcoiners wonโ€™t understand whatโ€™s a maxi or a shitcoiner so you will have a hard time finding that diverse audience in here for the coming years. But we can talk about everything

I just want a high quality twitter alternative, damn.

Been over BTC since I lost all of mine to Mt Gox in 2014

Cold storage FUCK the exchanges

True true.

Was doing exchange arbitrage, though. So needed to have the coins on exchange for at least one leg of the transactions. The coins got stuck once they hit gox.

The wizard troll has arrived I see.

Are you proud of this โ€œskillโ€ you have acquired? ๐Ÿคฃ

Bitcoiner without laser eyes here โœŒ๏ธ

Iโ€™m here for being among those working hard to build future. I like this space because itโ€™s rife with conceptual ideas put into practice by good people.

Love being around you peeps. Learning a bunch!

Keep on trucking. Happy 4th!

Donโ€™t have laser eyeโ€™s. Never bought into that mostly Twitter campaign. But still am just as committed as any to the ethos.

Iโ€™m interested in other things. Example: I have a new blockchain-based token Iโ€™m launching. You can buy it with bitcoin.

rent. free.

BITCOIN

I'm not a laser eyed maxi

grifting faggot

I don't disclose information about lasers I may or may not have.

I don't do Bitcoin, let alone laser eyes . . ๐Ÿ˜‚ I'm here because I run nothing but open source on all my devices and online ecosystems.

I prefer a payment method that doesn't require electronic devices and/or a highly complex communications network. Goldbacks fit that bill, crypto doesn't.

They thought they could hide from me here

Hey Udi, let's get this ball rolling. What would you say the state of bitcoin and it's community be like in a year 2054? Will there be oficial bitcoin religion by then? Thanks!

Hi Iโ€™m new here. I like bitcoin but not laser eye. Building decentralised telecommunication systems are as important as money itself.

Don't use Bitcoin. Don't think it's particularly useful for day 2 day usage compared to alternatives. Also think Vitalik is a pretty reasonable and intelligent dude, not a scammer.

I'm testing out this platform, alongside lens and some others for now, as I do agree with the need for censorship resistant, decentralized social network less prone to whims of a singular figure(s).

Right here. I'm also looking for more people that aren't entirely focused on bitcoin, though I like bitcoin, I don't particularly want to talk about it and only it all the time.

Non-laser-eyed here

My avatar doesnโ€™t have laser eyes, if that counts ๐Ÿ˜‚

I am here for all the non-blockchain parts of the nostr tech. I think blockchain will eventually be niche and that some kind of likelihood of trust will prevail. i.e. The people I trust say this will spend so good enough for me. You can get burnt sure, but completely trustless is impossible, everyone else may agree on a change to your detriment. So why not rely on trust to begin with and loose the speed and energy use problems of blockchains and proof of work?

XNO all the way. bitcoin is ponzi.