People think pride is a sin, but it depends.

Pride from exalting the self, feeling superiority over others, claiming glory for oneself is absolutely sinful.

But loving what god has entrusted to you? Valuing your role and responsibility is virtuous.

I love when I meet people who tell me their kids are the best kids on earth.

Same when I meet someone who is proud of their country, their marriage, their job. Etc…

Loving things according to their proper place, loving god supremely, feeling gratitude for your roles and responsibilities is rightly ordered.

It’s good to have pride in that sense.

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Most people don’t lol but I’m not opposed to traveling, I’m just opposed to traveling for no reason. If I am invited abroad I will often go. Or if I have buisness there. That’s just my own personal thing. I don’t enjoy vacations.

To each their own I guess.

I do very much enjoy vacations, specially abroad

Healthy pride = satisfaction from achievements

Unhealthy pride = arrogance and an inflated sense of superiority

Nuanced distinction

Personally I never feel pride over my achievements, because I always think I should be doing more/better.

Transient satisfaction is a better frame. Celebrating achievement is a healthy, sustainable dopamine bump to thrust us into continued achievement. Languishing in achievements stunts further progress

Anytime I feel comfortable with achievement it’s a nudge to think bigger and elevate my ambitions

There is no limit to the good we can do to glorify God. Only self imposed ceilings that keep us comfortable

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How to balance self belief (I can do this attitude) with Catholic guilt and shame so that I'm not only self loathing and depressed, but able to succeed and believe in myself WITHOUT becoming prideful like Satan? Is it a matter of having the pride, but being able to set it down when necessary?

You are allowed to believe you can succeed. You are required to acknowledge God as the source. You are not required to crush yourself to avoid pride. Healthy confidence is a Catholic virtue, not a temptation. Though Catholics often fuck this up lol

Thank you. I do acknowledge GOD is source, HE ultimately decides if I win or fail. Personally I'm just battling with extreme depression or extreme I can do anything no matter what. I am sick of feeling down, but I don't want to disrespect GOD or give in to temptation in order to feel better. We're called to endure to the end, so maybe that just means life sucks the whole time? Idk. I appreciate you taking the time to talk with me though

I grew up catholic and I’ve been in a similar position before so I get it. For me the depression came from not being my authentic self. Sort of playing a character I felt I had to play to appease the world. Once I stopped doing that and started being more truthful things improved significantly.

I think I try to not be my authentic self because the authentic me is a piece of shit bad person. Thank you though.

I think that’s probably bullshit and is the feeling that keeps a lot of Catholics trapped. Bad people don’t think of themselves as bad people.

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And also, how do I know what GOD wants or is calling me to do with my life? Maybe I'm resisting him and that's why it's so hard, or maybe I'm weak and that's just how hard life is

You have to protect your self worth or people will walk all over you

Religion is fine until it enters government.

Then it becomes The Chosen who justify every action with that very superiority you condemn.

You’re talking about gratitude not pride.

This!

Yes true but I’m using pride in the colloquial sense here

There’s certainly nothing wrong with satisfaction with a job well done or a life well lived. Life is to be experienced and enjoyed. The destination is not important.

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Watch the difference in someone’s attitude when you tell someone you are grateful for them instead of proud of them.

We are so utterly dependant on everything around us and who and what came before us and formed us in the most literal sense of the word, that I think pride just does not make sense.

And being proud of ‘a country’ is even more shaky. Its just a concept, a thought that one is proud of. Or does the pride really end with the last person, the final inch inside the border?

The minute enough people in a country start feeling that way the country no longer exists

Fighting for your country makes it a country. Having friends die for a belief like individual liberty. Imo. 🫂

Countries operate like businesses. I do understand the fight for individual liberty. It appears that the country you may be fighting for is actually destroying individual liberty in other locations through actions such as theft of resources.

I hear you, just giving my two sats. I think a society is an economy.

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There’s a big difference between ‘I’m better than you’ and ‘I cherish what I’m responsible for.’ The second one feels healthy.

Generally when I am investigating these ideas I go back to the root because today's religious landscape is full of false understandings and cultural interpretations. This is what I got from Gemini

It specifically denotes comparison between people and placing one's self above others and above God, which is common between many religions systems.

The original isn't Latin

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There is nothing wrong about being proud of stuff.

I mean if it's something that you earned for yourself.

You can't really be proud of being intelligent, or beautiful, or born in a rich family, because those are things that came to you as a gift from good luck.

You can't even be proud of your nation, much like you cannot be proud of ironman or captain america, not because you didn't earn them, but because they are things that don't exist in reality.

Pride and dignity are similar, but necessarily the same.

We just usege same words to mean too many different things.

Pride is an involuntary reaction to your actions that you perceived as virtuous. Example: if you believe honesty or hard work are virtues (thru your own logic and reasoning and not thru something like dogma) then you will not help but be proud if you are honest or hard working even when tempted to be dishonest and lazy.

When you align the action of your body with the thoughts of your mind then you have feelings about that. You can't hide from yourself. If your actions are misaligned with your thoughts then you can't hide from yourself either. You may be able to fool others but you can't fool yourself.

Balance and self-awareness like this, being able to see oneself like this and reflect upon what others see as a black and white matter is key⚡️🫡

I use to view pride as sinful. It is after all one of the seven deadly sins. But I have come to view it as a virtue. It is the golden mean between undue humility and vanity. Both are opposite extremes of pride - one being deficient and the other in excess.

A properly proud person has an accurate assessment of their own worth, neither boasting about achievements nor downplaying genuine accomplishments.

It never sat right with me to view pride purely as sinful. The thought always came back to me as I watched DBZ in my younger days with the prideful Vegeta. His pride wasn’t always something I considered bad.

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Show pride in your work, your skill, your children. Show some pride in yourself, as all people should, humans are amazing. But elevating it above that, internalizing it, and taking pride in things you have no hand in creating or maintaining and making that your guiding principle in life is a poor path to take.

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