proton is getting really good

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wouldn't trust the wallet tho

I've been playing with it and it's pretty straightforward. It's a self-custodial wallet that backs up an encrypted copy of your seeds to your Proton account. Given their good track-record with encryption and security, I see no reason to not trust the wallet. If something is revealed, and evidence is uncovered, that's a different story, but as it is, it seems to be a perfectly suitable wallet with excellent security geared towards the masses.

I've used it. It's easy and beginner friendly not something you trust your life savings to.

I can co-sign to that. It's definitely not a pro wallet for real bitcoiners. It's an intro wallet than I think has been designed to be welcoming and easy for the normies.

Yes, would even make more sense if they implement https://spark.info/ L2 Bitcoin when released.

Still no linux support.

Linux password manager โœ…

VPN app for Linux โœ…

no

ok

Half-backed linux apps; No flatpaks; the VPN app is missing 99% of features; No Calendar app; No Proton Drive support (the most requested feature on their site, for years)... so yeah no linux support.

imagine thinking privacy via a particular app is a thing. you're adorable, dorsey.

no i am not sending you an email again to unlock your whatever whatever. you never reply.

Why still use email๏ผŸ

Great question

I've been happy with it for many years

love proton

Thatโ€™s a hell of an endorsement ๐Ÿ˜ณ

The infrastructure of google and the integrity of Thor is what we need Gmail I donโ€™t trust a single email I get from my Stoodstrong@gmail.com all shams especially in my spam folder do you know anything about emails and DMs being altered?

yep

Using it for YEARS now

My go to!!

NO

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Tutamail ainโ€™t too shabby either

Yup. Was a big project, migrating my household there. Worth it.

will try again later this year, but experience with their email alias features was bad

How was it bad? Works as expected for me + easy to automatically create login account for the alias.

Mail sent to the alias kept getting dropped for me. No allow-list changes made a difference

Oh i see, never had that issue as of yet. Fingers ๐Ÿคž

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Shows when you support nascent technologies that they will improve and be able to out compete the monoliths!

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Agreed. Switch over to the Proton suite moving from Apple to GrapheneOS. Love my set up.

Do you get notifications on Proton without installing google play services on GrapheneOS?

And good support for Linux:

Proton Mail Bridge for Linux โœ…

Linux password manager โœ…

VPN app for Linux โœ…

Paid sub for a few years now. So far, so good!

Hey i made an anonymous post app - post whatever you in posts that last 24 h - presented to a lot of peep today - pretty good - https://spiritwrites.net

Works flawlessly with Qubes OS also. Running Proton VPN in a disposable qube (VM) side by side with Mulvad and tailgate ...

Always has been.

I donโ€˜t like apps with subscriptions although it might be the better option and I am just old. Give me a good app and Iโ€˜ll pay for it but then it belongs to me and if I choose to not use it for half a year nothing happens. But this subscription thing feels like if all of my stuff at home was just rented and if I stop paying it will stop working.

You're paying to use their servers and to not have to try to configure an email server yourself, which is worth it.

I paid for "Battlefield: Vietnam", used their servers and was not forced into a membership.

you can have encrypted email on any email hosting provider if you know how to install s/mime or pgp on your email client

Unless if you wanna delete more than 50 filtered mails at a time.

Or if you wanna delete an email address and first have to manually delete all mails related to it, again 50 at a time.

Proton sucks if you don't follow the very basic workflow they have in mind for you.

Lastly, there are not many signs of this, but Proton was created by CERN humans not entirely free from government ideology. E.g. How will they respond to WHO data requests during the next plandemic? Are they willing to block anti-"vaccine" mails, if WHO orders them to?

Do they even have the capacity to do targeted blocks like that? Your email is supposed to be encrypted at rest, at least, but I'm not sure when that happens. If they receive unencrypted and then encrypt to your account, they'd definitely be able to, but I'm not sure if there's a way to avoid that or not.

I think they can, unless you use their Proton Bridge and send client encrypted (PGP) mails ๐Ÿค”

Proton is a honeypot.

I use it for 5 years and it's great.

Have a look at these two too:

https://posteo.de/en

https://mailbox.org/en/

both are good with only 1-Euro per month

both have pro's and con's and are are littel bit different

and the later one has a heritance solution that's pretty good

Try it with a dummy e-mail-adress for 30 days and

then go serious with registering the one's you want and need...

How so?

Right, encryption! Emails and messages?

I use it and I use Proton Pass and Orbot as a VPN service.