I give ZERO fucks that FOREIGNERS have to disclose everything to get into MY country.
America is for Americans! These are our rights and liberties. They don't belong to anyone else.
All this crying on behalf of people you don't know, who don't care about you and would take advantage of us if we let them.
Y'all sound so pussy!
Pathological empathy has been a disaster for our nation.
Hello, I'm one of those foreign pussies you speak so highly of.
I'll try not to take advantage of you if I ever visit again or if you decide to let me in 😂
Mike you ain't a pussy. You a Brit. I'm talking about my fellow Americans crying on your behalf. America has long been everyone's playground and long taken advantage of it. Now America is for Americans. I personally would never be shocked if a foreign government made requests of me of any kind as a non national.
Despite your colourful language, you are right, it's your country and you decide who to let in. We did that by BREXITing a few years ago.
It's interesting for me that social media has become the credential battleground that countries are using.
The original use of the "Visa", which pre-dates the passport was as a personal guarantee from one countries authority to another.
Now a TikTok meme can be make or break for immigrants.
How far we've come.
Not being inflammatory but didn't the UK just arrest someone for their speech on social media from another country? I could be wrong on that because I know they are arresting plenty of their own people over hurting people's feelings.
All countries do all things at some time or another, what you choose to focus on tells a lot about the zeitgeist of society.
Remember when kids used to play outside before it was no longer safe to do so despite everything becoming safer 😂
I do because I grew up in that time.
What should a country that's crumbling and has had a massive rate of immigrants flood through unvetted?
I don't agree with the whole tourist thing, and not sure what spurred that tbh. I think the US should get rid of anchor babies though. We can't even help our own nation because the corrupt politicians spend our money on other nations.
This nation is crumbling and fits the story of wealth being transfered out by central bankers crippling the country like in the Creature from Jekyll Island, the collapse from the Sovereign Individual, change of guard from the fourth turning etc
I'm not familiar enough with U.S. politics to follow your specific concerns, but in general, as we Bitcoiners know, money is flowing from soft to hard money.
What I also see is that power (and wealth) is moving from West to East.
How are we taken advantage of by tourists coming to our country and spending money?
Back in the day we used to stock up on cheap supplies from Walmart.
Now, we can't even afford the thrift stores 😂
Plenty of people stay, have children here and never go home. Plenty of people hate America, talk endless shit about Americans and yet want the protection of our laws.
It isn't hard to understand that having higher standards leads to better people coming here.
You're talking about criminals, not tourists... This isn't an immigration conversation, it's tourists. There is no reason to restrict tourism BC some abuse the system. Find the people who over stayed and deport them and ban them from reentry. It's not hard and what you're advocating for is not american. We're supposed to be a shinning city on a hill. Plus we benefit from them coming and spending money. If people "talk shit" about america, why would they vacation here?
Plenty of Chinese "tourists" come here to have babies. This recent social media element is simply a deterent so we don't have to go chasing down every person who abuses our good will. This isn't hard.
America is for Americans. Plenty of people hate America but like our shit.
Ah, so you're one of those faggots that thinks the govt gives you rights, not God. You should be deported because that's Unamerican. You probably love letting TSA see inside you butthole when you fly too don't you?
Then why not end the anchor baby ability?
You underestimate how much of American prosperity rested on its being seen as a destination for foreign talent.
Also has a massive tourist industry.
Well, it had one.
We have had enough. We have been taken advantage of. These are simple boundaries. And like all boundaries people have a difficult time respecting them.
That's fine.
I don't think you were being taken advantage of by German housewives who shared a Free Palestine meme on Facebook, but you do you.
I believe you would be fine with Germany screening out people who openly call for jihad.
You would be wrong.
You are good with foreigners who openly call for jihad being allowed to enter Germany?
No, but I'm not interested in catching them by throwing such a wide net.
Cost and reward should be in some sort of balance.
I am also very aware that Muslims also shitpost. I'm not interested in putting someone in Social Media Jail, just for some Internet rant.
He who hath not ranted online can revoke the first visa.
Just look at the crap Trump himself spouts, all day, every day. Gonna annex Greenland. LOL whatever.
For Americans, the situation is so out of balance that the only way to restore order is to set firm boundaries equal to how ridiculous the outcomes have become.
That is an opinion.
Yes my opinion is that everyone wants to talk shit on America but also wants to be protected by her laws. Our values are always thrown in our face. Talking shit about America is a protected right for Americans to do, not everyone else.
Trump is an American protected by the Constitution. If some rando jihadi wants that same protection then they can create a constitution that protects it in their own country. We don't owe anybody anything.
The Constitution doesn't give anyone free speech and free speech isn't a right only Americans have, in America. People have free speech, by Nature, and the Constitution forbids the US federal government from infringing upon it.
The idea that only Americans should have their inalienable rights respected is highly un-American. That would turn them into priveleges granted by the government.
I never said give, I said protected. If everyone else wants their natural rights protected then they must create the circumstance where their governement isn't allowed to infringe on it.
We as Americans did that at great cost.
Nothing about 5 years of social media history is a "simple boundary." This is "papers please", it's fascist and UnAmerican.
As someone who works in the tourism industry I can vouch for the massive decline in visitors. FL doesn't have an income tax because we collect so much sales tax from tourism. FL will be ok due to running a great state budget. Other areas will see big drawdowns because Floridians also know how to compete to win tourists business.
Hotel owners will also bleed which is why I find this fascinating coming from a hotel owners
nice people with money will come because it doesn't impact them
I guess we're all bad people without money, then.
I have to prove I have enough money to drive to Alaska. Every country wants to know you can afford to go home. This is so basic. All it tells me is that everyone wants to come here but no one wants to have standards.
oh so "prove to THIS government that you're "nice" "? That's what American Freedom means?
I've put off two flights, so far. Everyone else I know has also decided to travel to someplace else.
It's not just the perceived personal risk; it's also the general impression that nobody wants us to come.
I’m a regular visitor to Florida. It’s one of the few destinations we can get a direct flight to and many Newfoundlanders escape there for the winters. I have seen a marked decline in desire to travel to the US - less as a complete boycott and more as an apathetic view.
Attitudes towards foreigners matter.
We have seen a big drawback from our friends up north. Between the exchange rate and fud from the Canadian government it's a tough sell
I'd say the policies of the current US administration might have a part to play in it, with continually increasing friction at the border, 51st state talk, and the tariffs. No FUD necessary.
I live a short drive from the border and would make a few trips per year usually. I've met a lot of good people in Montana & North Dakota. As it stands I haven't been to the US for over a year now, and don't care to go anytime soon. It's easier now to just stay here and spend my money locally, rather than in a foreign country.
I have several clients in Canada. One comes down regularly to bass fish in FL and we always have breakfast and compare notes of the state of affairs with our governments. I had no idea the Canadian government banned outside media from social platforms in 2023. My boss is Canadian and his parents have split opinions about everything based on his mom not using social media and his dad is consumed by it. Neither of our governments are making it easy to be good neighbors
Yes I mean if you’re tuning into CBC only and not checking any other sources, there is a clear slant. I don’t think completely unjustified, but amplified for sure. (I have really strong opinions about the CBC - and discuss its use cases frequently…).
Neither government is making it easier - but it certainly is more difficult for Canadians at the border since trump’s first administration. That coupled with the narrative does nothing for relations.
I’ll still be visiting my warm family, but with a little less enthusiasm - and a little more commentary on border controls.
Culture > geography alone.
Like when? The influx of mass immigration began with the Immigration Act of 1965. It's pretty clear by nearly all metrics the country has been getting exponentially worse since around that time.
The immigration people point to as having "built the country" is the Irish and Italian immigration during the industrial revolution. Not only are the immigration rates nothing compared to post '65 but Gaels and Mediterranean are racially similar to the largely Anglo stock of the colonists and early Americans.
There's a massive difference both in proportion and in quality of immigration that directly correlates to our rapid decline. You vastly overestimate the importance of bringing in millions of Mexicans and Indians.
I don't mind the gatekeeping, I mind who is in charge of those standards (as if they align with mine). I can guarantee you they don't align with my standards. It then sets the wrong precidence for the next Biden.
Actually, this opinion is that of a pussy and a slave to the state. Free men and women do not ask permission, nor do they need papers.
Spare me. You don't invite people for dinner that spent the past five years talking shit about you. We don't live in some borderless utopia.
Awwww, someone online said mean things 🤡🤣
I assume you mean ALL foreingers, including Europeans?
So you hate us because we don't support a pedophile?
Interesting cultural difference, if you said you hate Anthony Albanese because he's a zionist cuck that works for USA and israel against Australians.
Everyone around here would just agree with you, and respect that you're saying it like it is.
The moment anyone talks against Trump or Israel, half a million cucks in the comments defending the way Trump raped children on Epsteins island
muted for complete nonsense
Telling someone you muted them is another pussy move.
once someone says I hate someone else when I don't hate anyone, is reason to not need to waste my time on them
You clearly do. Your own words show that.
My own words show the opposite. Have a nice day.
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What you allow your government to do again other people it will end up doing to its own citizens.
History has shown us this, and what's happening in USA right now is what we warned you about.
Ignoring it won't make it go away, praising the people doing it won't stop them from turning on you next.
Replying to people after telling them you muted them.
And hating people just because they refuse to worship a pedophile.
I really hope you wake up one day and realise you wasted your life supporting evil against humanity and that the evil your spent your life supporting does not care about you and it'll shit you out as fast as the next guy.
I just think it's interesting how many Americans will fight to the death to defend pedophiles and criminals who get elected while also harping on about freedom and being anti authoritarian.
It's always the same people doing both.
And the only reason you have to hate the other side is because they support a different party with the exact same policies that also runs pedophiles and criminals for office.
If you could just get passed the stupid culture war shit and meaningless identity politics you'd be able to see both sides of your government are the same and dem voters are the same as Republican voters.
Both are voting for pedophiles then defending it whenever it's called out.
Funny thing is the criminal government you are simping for has harmed you far worse and more often than any immigrant ever could.
Does no one understand that we won't be able to fix our own problems if we are over ran with people who have no fondness for maintaining any of the good?
Just because some faces on the screens tell you these things about immigrants does not make it true.
its a very strange quirk in this generation of westerners. they actually believe its immoral to set and enforce basic ground rules around who can enter. i don’t know who trained that obvious retardation into them.
Yeah if those "free men" are all morally righteous, intelligent and well principled then this would be awesome but it's not the case.
We are at war. Our people are in jeopardy. If the current racial demographic change continues at the current rate, White Americans will become a minority very soon.
I hate to speak in racial terms since I'd love nothing more than if all blacks were like the few that I consider close friends, same for my mexican friends but it's a terrible fate that this is anecdotally and statistically false.
White people have to get real familiar with race as we've been, to our detriment, trying desperately for generations to ignore it. Ignoring race is awesome when you come across wonderful non-white people, but when it gets you injured, killed, or even simply harrassed it's time to accept reality as it is and not what it ought to be.
Oh no. The horror.
Come on man, there's more to life than material things. Safety, language, friends, family, shared social cohesion, trust, etc. Life gets real intolerable as those things dissolve and all we're left with are things.
20 yrs of my adult life, whites were the minority in the city I lived in. I had neighbors that didnt speak English. I had black roommates. I had Puerto Rican roommates. It was perfectly fine. You aint getting nowhere with me on this.
I'm glad you've had a good experience. I pray that it continues for you, myself and others. Thank you for giving me more hope.
The internet and media isnt real life. Trust me. Its not like you think as race relations go. There are exceptions yes, but lets just say I never felt the need to cross the street.
This basically means turning out back on free trade, which includes free movement of people based on their economic interests.
It's of a kind with the dumb-ass tariffs, a path to American economic destitution, brought on by the economically ignorant in service of jingoistic brainfarts like "America for Americans." HFSP
"These are our rights and liberties. They don't belong to anyone else."
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
emphasis "all men"
Ever noticed how the people who say "my country" are the ones who have never contributed anything positive to their own country in any way.
A real patriot isn't blinded by the idea that they're better than everyone else.
The real patriots are the ones fighting against the corruption in government, not the ones praising it.
One of my most painful epiphanies was when I realized that "my country" had been destroyed before I was born, and that there was no way to restore it. Then I realized it didn't matter, that what mattered was not "my country", but "my civilization", and that civilization includes everyone on Earth.
This is a test run for the government using such morality tests for things well beyond the 'acceptable' target and purpose. Consider how the patriot act was implemented under such a guise and how much both political parties have abused the american people with their shiny new powers. In 5 years we will be social media testing US Citizens for all kinds of shit after they successfully see little / no resistance in this first go.
You should consider that this has nothing to do with the targets themselves...that is where much of the outrage comes from.
The outrage feels like an inability to act in one's own self interest. We have to have standards.
Perhaps. Im sure all of this was already being done by the various agencies responsible for letting people into the country anyways, so i suppose the announcement is garnering a bit too much outrage.
It does feel easily gamable though...for sophisticated actors. I wonder how useful it will be for accurate assessment.
It clearly already worked as a deterrence by the feedback this post got and they haven't even started it.
