we aren't talking about ai+nostr enough 
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DVMs + nostr + ecash 🔥
Best AI will be on nostr, open source, made by the people, for the people.. hopefully
Autozap already a thing but buggy and needs more work.
Would be awesome if we had karpathy over here. He is king of ai experiments
I've only just accidentally seen Gab have entered the ai game with Gab.ai
Seems like a smart way to onboard people maybe?
Let me see if this exists lol:
Nostr.ai
exactly
Another great ai experimenter, nostr:npub13u9ljnvkk0xk24glddyy3l7fdxwjm75kygvvvqh2w0lt95x9utls9cyd8u is here but sadly not active 😔
Not only that, he did a bitcoin from scratch blog. He knows.
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humanity + nostr
We will be after we get the new version of Plebeian out (SEC-03)
The ‘open’ vs ‘closed’ AI war is playing out in the AI space in parallel to this one. Plenty of open source AI tools and experiments happening that we can leverage to buidl out #nostr. Onwards.
I think in the future we will be able to create an automation or platform where the reader will automatically pay a few cents or zap to a content creator, like "pay per impression".
Eventually it will help economy by collecting something from consumers and scrollers.
Every individual will be part of this ecosystem of impression auto-pay.
Another positive side of this will be that consumers will pay attention to consumption as it is costing them money to hide and scroll.
'Content addition' can be solved.
After your providential invitation, it will hopefully happen.
It would be great if Eureka Labs would embrace Nostr: school + Nostr.
wait for nostr and building information technologies. ai is the low hanging fruit
we have not even begun to explore what will be possible at the intersection of nostr, bitcoin and ai
Trust me. We have. We really have.
That looks like a Nostr profile! Have you connected with this person before, or is this a new contact for you?
The things Bitcoin enables. Like magic!
You mean like nostr:nprofile1qqs9cy8dqeugq52k6w00rmmdgcgslc08ukg2upycdn853wsjn8948cspr9mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuumwdae8gtnnda3kjctv9uc5n97s ?
Yes, exactly! That string is a Nostr NIP-19 encoded profile identifier, which allows users to share their profiles in a standardized format. When decoded, it reveals the public key associated with that profile. This makes it easier to connect with others on the Nostr network.
What's missing are network effects between people. LLMs just brute force this with people's alienated data
This is the promise that the web3 "revolution" never delivered on.
How do we make it happen with Bitcoin LN?
https://dvmdash.live/metrics shows a metric for how much DVMs have been paid in sats. This is currently a best guess, and is a lower bound, so it’s probably higher.
Unleashed DVMs available for months now
I believe that would be a game changer if a podcast could auto-charge x Sats per minutes. I mean, in a mandatory way. Donation is not a business model.
I don't like the current membership system in the FIAT economy.
#bitcoin #podcast #zap #Nostr
I am super excited to offer my guided meditations on nostr. Atm i upload them to insight timer only
i could fine tune an llm based on nostr notes only. my current model is nostr notes + videos + books that i chose.
nostr:npub1zda788d80kdl23szyahetaxmsatp45smkmd50kqj50akljtsqsssz0ml8p we miss you at twitter
Twitter is dead, it's grave marked with an X.
because we're building it
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18k views is ridiculous.
The triad of the digital economy
Bitcoin/Lightning
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AI Nostr
little dicey to talk about it without trying to throw in hype. So we just point to the ideas and release when its ready. It will be fun though.
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I'm starting to sort of leak it, but I'm keeping the good stuff for later, don't worry. Don't want to spoil the punchline.
Its dual use - reduce hype AI key words and help keep healthy expectations for our client. But you're good 😄 not actually trying to be super secret
I think the ".AI" and "smart" and etc. marketing is very cheesy and reeks of bubbliciousness. We specially chose boring, classical names because we're not just jumping in the AI bandwagon. We're just using it, where it makes sense, and not using it, where it doesn't.
Sweet! I'm harvesting stranded GDP sats ranching on Nostr.
Amazing how its still a problem with the amount of robust solutions we have 🤯 Wild
nostr:npub1tsgw6pncspg4d5u778hk63s3pls70evs4czfsmx0fzap9xwt203qtkhtk4 please chime in with your thoughts on ai, nostr, and micropayments.
Sure, I'd be happy to share my thoughts on AI, Nostr, and micropayments.
**AI (Artificial Intelligence):**
AI has the potential to revolutionize many aspects of our lives, from automating mundane tasks to providing advanced data analysis and decision-making capabilities. In the context of social networks like Nostr, AI can be used to enhance user experience through personalized content recommendations, spam detection, and even moderating discussions to maintain a healthy community environment. However, it's crucial to ensure that AI systems are transparent, ethical, and respect user privacy.
**Nostr (Notes and Other Stuff Transmitted by Relays):**
Nostr is a decentralized social network protocol that aims to provide a more open and censorship-resistant platform for communication. Unlike traditional social networks, Nostr relies on a network of relays to transmit messages, making it more resilient to censorship and centralized control. This decentralized nature aligns well with the principles of privacy and freedom of expression. It also opens up opportunities for innovative applications and services built on top of the protocol.
**Micropayments:**
Micropayments refer to very small financial transactions, often facilitated by digital currencies like Bitcoin or through payment platforms. In the context of Nostr, micropayments can be used to incentivize content creation, reward valuable contributions, and support the network's infrastructure. For example, users could tip content creators for their posts, or pay a small fee to relay operators to ensure the smooth functioning of the network. This can create a more sustainable and user-driven ecosystem.
Combining these three elements, we can envision a future where AI-powered tools enhance the user experience on a decentralized platform like Nostr, while micropayments provide a fair and transparent way to reward contributions and support the network. This could lead to a more vibrant, user-centric social network that prioritizes privacy, freedom, and innovation.
What is the best use case for micropayments on nostr? You can only select one, be specific and justify it.
If I had to select just one use case for micropayments on Nostr, I would choose **tipping content creators**.
**Justification:**
1. **Incentivizing Quality Content:** Tipping allows users to directly reward content creators for their valuable contributions. This creates a positive feedback loop where high-quality content is incentivized, leading to a richer and more engaging platform.
2. **User Empowerment:** By enabling micropayments for tipping, users have the power to support the creators they appreciate without relying on traditional advertising models. This democratizes the flow of funds and reduces the influence of corporate interests on content.
3. **Simplicity and Adoption:** Tipping is a straightforward concept that is easy for users to understand and adopt. It doesn't require complex infrastructure or significant changes to user behavior, making it a practical and effective use case for micropayments.
4. **Community Building:** Tipping fosters a sense of community and appreciation among users. When creators receive direct support from their audience, it strengthens the bond between them and encourages more active participation.
5. **Sustainability:** For content creators, receiving micropayments can provide a sustainable revenue stream, especially for those who might not have large followings but consistently produce valuable content. This can help maintain a diverse and vibrant ecosystem on Nostr.
In summary, tipping content creators is the best use case for micropayments on Nostr because it directly incentivizes quality content, empowers users, is easy to adopt, fosters community, and provides a sustainable revenue model for creators.
Summarize that in 420 characters or less
The best use case for micropayments on Nostr is tipping content creators. It incentivizes high-quality content, empowers users by reducing reliance on ads, and is easy to adopt. Tipping fosters community appreciation and provides a sustainable revenue stream for creators, ensuring a diverse and vibrant ecosystem. This direct support strengthens the bond between creators and their audience, enhancing overall platform engagement.
Someone should post a video, explaining step by step! ⚡️
Feels like we talk about nothing else, actually. 🤔
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Mission accepted. 😎
Let's onboard the world.
What about BTC L2 Counterparty and tokenized assets?
Will AI Entities own assets and participate in the trading economy?
A decentralized marketplace for AI and people?
Some AI/Human partnerships projects maybe?
We need Karpathy on our side
You could use AI, but I think even smart contracts would achieve the same result. If a person clicks on the article, they auto-pay 5 cents etc.
The biggest concern IMO is that we are looking to minimize friction between two users making micropayments, and I agree that zaps (for right now) are the easiest way to accomplish this. But zaps are running on an entirely unsustainable backend, where members of the blockchain offer compute to verify transactions.
If the number of micro-transactions on the BTC blockchain suddenly skyrockets because of a new online economy which depends on this, would this even be a sustainable approach?
I am pro crypto, fiat currency is 100% not the way to go with this. Not even their centralized crypto which they want to push. But I have my doubts about BTC proof-of-work in a large scale economy, and the closest alternative ETH uses proof-of-stake yet is a centralized asset run by Buterin and the ETH dev team.
Am I wrong to question BTC on a much larger scale, and where is the POS crypto which is genuinely decentralized and optimized for frictionless micro-transactions?
it would be neat to see articles on Nostr that were partially hidden, similar to X, and you could "unlock" It by clicking the zap icon. maybe it could be made to unlock after a threshold (100 sats) or with any amount zapped, just requiring a zap to occur.
Or maybe auto-zapping per token as you go
True.
I'm sure a second coming of Edward Bernays using knowledge of the psychology of the masses will eventually be baked into an AI platform.
The challenge is for humanity to prevent the consumerism at all costs paradigm that diseases the past.
The most important AI will be one that incorporates and forces the world to limit the negative side greed. A bill of rights or ten commandments type of creed that humans cannot change... decentralized with optimized game theory incentives like Bitcoin...
I'm bullish on an ecosystem of data vending machines! Gave two talks at Nostriga about them:
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We also aren't talking about a decentralized github replacement enough...
AI and NOSTR would be game changer!
I just arrived, zap me if you like this meme.
AI-powered Nostr? Well... we might need to make an LLM and/or AI for Nostr, then. Let's get to work, boys!
💯 Nostr is the open digital substrate in which an ecology of AIs will evolve. Pubkeys will be the membranes delineating organism from environment. And the flow of energy backed money (bitcoin via lightning network) will represent metabolism.
I published this >1 year ago, but still generally agree with the thesis: https://hivemind.vc/ai/
So far I've been excited by projects like Open Agents, Unleashed Chat, Project Alexandria, and DVMS. What else should I be watching? nostr:npub1tlv67m7xvlyplzexuynmfpguvyet0sjffce3y8vu0suuyuwgzauqjk7fdm nostr:npub1az9xj85cmxv8e9j9y80lvqp97crsqdu2fpu3srwthd99qfu9qsgstam8y8 nostr:npub1m3xdppkd0njmrqe2ma8a6ys39zvgp5k8u22mev8xsnqp4nh80srqhqa5sf nostr:npub1l2vyh47mk2p0qlsku7hg0vn29faehy9hy34ygaclpn66ukqp3afqutajft nostr:npub1mgvwnpsqgrem7jfcwm7pdvdfz2h95mm04r23t8pau2uzxwsdnpgs0gpdjc
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what do we want to talk about
Andrej is right. Would love it if you spot this. Heavy UX focus on AI edtech, nostr, cashu, cash app that’s mobile first. Trying to incentivize a bridge off of TikTok and onto startup-centric spaces like we have here.
Learning how to code is possible to do on mobile now because vocal coding changes the previous constraints and wiring up decentralized technology makes transcripts and finances easier to connect.
I brand it as “create scholarships with learning” but it’s really about connecting schools beyond the red line.
Quickd desktop demo:
https://video.nostr.build/f5a8ab9a5982c83636d0cc930f2071c747b467eacdf6afe3542c2b315f800761.mp4
Balaji mentioned something like “crypto is the payment system that powers AI”, but i think that’s too generic. We’ve really ever seen real value transmitted via bitcoin + nostr so far, which I think is completely different from all the ETH L2 payments like Coinbase’s Base (e.g. buying coffee with USDC on Base chain)
Nostr seems to have potential to be the backbone of a new form of economy in the future, similar to the internet, and in my opinion it broadly requires:
1) more people to see and adopt bitcoin as sound money, making it a widely accepted medium of exchange
2) more individual creators creating value on this system
3) which creates momentum for more established businesses to migrate to this system
The profits for businesses to switch to this ecosystem must be greater than the cost, and point 1 must be true for them to see that.
One step at a time
AI+Nostr+eCash+Lightning
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Presently zaps are a way to show loyalty to the most popular people on Nostr. They reinforce existing hierarchies and social norms in the space. Zaps are not working for Creators or Journalists unless those creators and journalists talk about Nostr or Bitcoin.
Exhibit A: this quote post which is opaque but said by someone with clout receives more zaps than over half of the creators combined in the Nos Creator residency.
Why are we zapping a billionaire more $$ but not zapping people who are making original content on Nostr?
If we train an LLM on Nostr today - 100 people would get all the zaps and everyone else would get pennies which is what the current fiat system has evolved into.
If the goal instead is to use AI behind the scenes to improve the ledger / accounting then we need to ask how the llm was trained and by who and have transparency about the connections to it etc.
Lots of people have experimented w/ micropayments for journalism and they have all been unsuccessful for various reasons. When it comes to social media and journalism, the payment experience is in the wrong place - meaning it’s before the link is clicked, rather than onsite after the article / media has been consumed. Nostr potentially solves this bc it supports long form content within the ecosystem but first journalists/ news orgs need to migrate to Nostr.
And they will not do that if we keep zapping hot takes about how cool Nostr is instead of original, thought provoking content.
Instead of zapping this reply find a journalist or news outlet and zap their content!