* KYC on-ramps

* No protocol level privacy improvements in bitcoin-core

* Wasabi collaborating with Chain Analysis

* TornadoCash arrest

* Roman Sterlingov arrest

* ETF

* Monero delistings

* KYC all miners

* Samourai arrest

Are you sure we are winning?

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There's been a ton of privacy improvements in bitcoin core

I wrote protocol-level

Taproot, all the p2p improvements

p2p is network level

I'll give you taproot, although it was without CISA, and the privacy improvement is still marginal, it doesn't really make CA lose any sleep.

Yeah, I’m sure we’re winning. There wouldn’t be a fight if we weren’t.

Go take a look at the number of people who signed the Declaration of Independence that made it past the revolutionary war. I take no pleasure in that comparison but this is nothing so far.

When do we burn the tea?

It feels like it’s time. For better or worse though we are all very distributed around the world. I’m open to suggestions.

We are definitely losing and not winning

There has been a major attack against bitcoin for the past 3-5 years

Your second bullet point is so wrong it hurts.

Cant predict if "we" are winning but "they" are losing.

Let not your heart be troubled, neither be afraid.

All things work together for good to those who love Bitcoin and are called to stack Sats.

Bitcoin and zaps make everything better.

Not to start flaming but the tandem btc-xmr has a lot of sense.

Good question, but counter question:

"Is the goal of Bitcoiners to 'win' or to create a parallel, resilient economy."

For the later it seems the legislators are helping out by creating division.

i think more importantly, USA first, and secondarily EU, are both creating socialist prison systems in earnest, pretty much copying along with what china is doing, and if you think back to how history ran with the last time massive increase in socialism happened, ie, bolshevik revolution, nazi germany, fascist italy and spain, what was the smart move for a pleb at that time?

yes, GTFO!

it's long past the point where it was alreadly clearly past the point of no return, i think at least you can say 2001 was the point of no return, when they started to intensively surveil all communications, banking, transport, and social media barely even existed at that time

Trade p2p without KYC

The government is one giant lion. Bitcoin is millions of honey badgers.

Their shit will collapse. They'll lose.

I see that you see.

Zoom out. We’ll lose battles, but we’re winning the war.

I sure hope so. I was more sure before than now

Any thoughts on specific derivation paths being sanctioned?

You can't know a derivation path just by looking at an utxo

If folks bought from fellow bitcoiners VS just buying gift cards to mega corporations we'd start winning again

What do you mean?

The only play the fiat ghouls have is a kettling operation and narrative control and they better get after it. Clocks a tickin'!

You not must play when you no win

Yes we are winning.

Maybe just not Bitcoiners subject to American law.

If Bitcoins success hinges on the particular laws of a nation then it is destined to fail

*checks price*

Yes.

So literally all fine if ngu.. right.

This attitude is part of the problem. People have been sleepwalking on privacy and generally in denial for a very long time now.

I'm not sleepwalking on privacy and I'm not in denial. I run JAM and am ready to die on this hill. Don't make so many assumptions. Small losses are part of war, but it doesn't always mean defeat.

My attitude is not part of the problem, it's a part of the solution.

We need seemless atomic swaps between BTC and Monero. Once this happens we are invincible.

Halfway there with UnstoppableSwap

BasicSwapDex also exists (but not super beginner friendly, setup involved). Looking forward to Serai dropping sometime this year.

Unstoppableswap.net ?

Not enough of liquidity.

And extremely complex.

If you made it through fifth grade you'll figure it out.

I can figure it out. The issue is that some people if it was not clear to you, cannot even figure out they need Monero.

Fuck this mentality. It will bring only harm to yourself.

Grow some balls. Live up to your ideals. And be the fucking change you want to see in the world.

Sorry but I fail to understand how to be liquidity for myself 😐. I mostly change in one direction.

Can you explain me how?

You can become a market maker.

Did you even check it out? The maximum swap amount is 0.02 BTC and it is unidirectional BTC to XMR. It is good that is exists but it is near useless. Kind of a proof of concept.

more atomic swap markets will be arriving shortly within the next few months stay tuned ;)

Just use lightning

lightning atomic swaps are on the horizon for the general market place mark my words

Lightning is not private. Especially how most use it.

User-friendly Serai DEX should be popping off sometimes this year. Haveno too.

Question: Can ANYONE stop you from receiving and/or sending a transaction?

Can you use VPN (which allows you to use ANY app to on-ramp to #Bitcoin)?

If the answers to those questions are; No. Yes. - and they are - then they can continue to fight 'us' or they can join us.

But they can't stop us - it's world wide too. Keep the list going - let them keep trying wasting fiat! It just makes Bitcoin adoption go FASTER!

(I would add, be sure you run a node and have a small miner running sometimes - the miner is not necessary but in order to keep the network secure and diversified we all need to encourage these activities - it's OUR bank)

Kyc all miners how?

nostr:npub1qtvl2em0llpnnllffhat8zltugwwz97x79gfmxfz4qk52n6zpk3qq87dze doesn’t KYC. And there will be more oceans in the future. #7seas

ocean is the best pool hands down

* Monero under loads of txpool attacks

* Rune tokens and ordinals also driving load to bitcoin blockspace

* USA Election year

* The current administration began publicly R&D for CBDCs over 2 years ago giving it more time to develop

* Brazillian government silencing speech and becoming more dictatorial every day

* Less and less right wing protests, less and less participants

* Rumble blocked in Brazil

* New term invented by the EU "unhosted wallets" to possibly be regulated

* Life getting more and more unaffordable due to the effects of inflation

* Physical cash getting less accepted everywhere

I wonder, if another COVID or similar era of tyranny were to happen AGAIN, how different will things go? will it be harder or easier to fight back this time around?

* Telegram blocked in Span

* WoS pulled out of US

* LN in shambles, no bolt12 adoption, reliance on lnurl and LSPs

* Swan closing accounts of users that mix

I know there's no character limit on nostr, but at some point, my fingers get tired and I have to stop 😂

hate towards samurai devs but it affected everyone, still there is no legal rule but everyone compiled already! so much for censorship resistance and unconfiscatable nature.

We are not winning we are getting psyoped.

NGU Michel Saylor cultists will get us all wrecked.

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WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT “KYC”?

If I have to sell coins for fiat then I pay fiat taxes.

The solution is to FUCKING LEAVE TYRANNICAL COUNTRIES

You misunderstand the real issue. If the only issue with KYC was taxes 😂.

It's about control. All countries are tyrannical, no exceptions.

Please explain it then.

No one can stop me sending my self custody KYC coins anywhere I want. Regardless of what some NSA database has tagged it.

Their violence will not save the fiat system.

Oh you wait. Final Boss

You're a useful idiot. Go read literally any book

Non-KYC is great, knock yourself out, but the point of the technology is that even knowing you have it, they can’t stop it.

You don’t have to hide anymore. You are free.

This is happening everywhere and you're not paying attention.

Your all caps shows your unhinged worldview.

Our goal here is to free the world, not run and hide in a hole.

How do you propose we achieve that without defunding the tyrannical governments?

Isn't that what we are doing by taking the money out of their control? I propose we do what we are doing.

KYC doesn’t affect control.

Only self custody does.

At this point I fail to see what point you're even trying to make. You're just arguing with people for entertainment.

Honestly I had more conviction 1 year ago.