Nostr Web Client

RUN

NWS

👀

nostr:note1eu0pyklezwkysyeelnhmfvgnuj7emgwvr3cl9sax4npc6kus77cqzsn396

How different is this then ENS?

ENS is overlays DNS, this overlays TCP/IP like Tor. Fairly useless without a browser

errrrr....

nostr:note1vdjx7x9cdmmynnfjj36evnvacc8xjz0yll6pke3x8k7k9y6v3xmsf9c5wa

SSH is on top TCP/IP

Was referring to > Fairly useless without a browser

I'm pretty sure this design also enables use with browsers when combined with DNS and traffic is allowed to exit into the open internet.

Good luck getting regular niggas to use ssh or socks 😂 I've already tried that.

Good things get wrapped into invisible UX and adopted without notice. "good luck getting regular people to use SSL certificates!"

That's what browsers do. Nostr autists aren't solving any problem unless they write a better browser (than firefox)

This is a very powerful, useful and interesting new development. There's no reason to piss on it because it didn't also rebuild the entire world.

Everything doesn't have to be relevant for every normal person on earth in order to be useful and exciting for some (at first).

It doesn't matter if I piss on it or not. It doesn't matter if it's exciting to autists. It needs to be useful for a good chunk of people or it's another joke fad.

We disagree.

New things need to be useful to 1 person first. Then 3, then 20, etc.

How do you think we got anything?

All software I use was useful to millions of people from the beginning. Browser, media player, terminal emulator. Remember the app economy that didn't happen? Now you know it's cause the modern userbase chose 10 apps and nothing custom. Regardless, what problem does Nostr solve? Talking about bitcoin was never a problem

You tell me what problem Nostr solves, you're spending your scarce time and energy on it. Why?

🇵🇸 whoever loves Digit 1y ago

"until," not "unless"

Semantics 😀

0x2F9E 1y ago

Why do we need this?

So when domains go down or are taken down, access to the services don't go with them

Same reason you need Nostr when "twitter already exists"

0x2F9E 1y ago

But what advantages does this have over Tor or I2p hidden services?

Cats should be skinned many ways.

Different approaches are better or worse for different contexts. Also, surprising net-new discoveries are made beyond the frontier when you re-solve a problem with a new stack. Sometimes some property of the stack, in connection with the "already solved problem", reveals novel new territory. (Look at "the microblog UX" getting "re-solved" by Nostr)

🇵🇸 whoever loves Digit 1y ago

Cats should probably not be skinned

0x2F9E 1y ago

I’m sceptical but experimentation is good

Ok so it’s more like tor/i2p

Exactly like those. Autists love to copy each other.

Thx

Derek Ross 1y ago

No Shitcoin?

nostr:nevent1qqsv78sjt0u38tzgzvulema5kyf7f0va58xpcu0jcwn2esudtwg00vqpzemhxue69uhkummnw3ezuerpw3sju6rpw4ej7q3q6uq0cyx52lh2unczavzdw9dq2jphu69zutgpp9cnstz7zqtdex0qxpqqqqqqz089rnu

Well yeah that’s a difference

7fqx 1y ago

I have no idea what this is, but it's probably cool.

nostr:nevent1qqsv78sjt0u38tzgzvulema5kyf7f0va58xpcu0jcwn2esudtwg00vqpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsygxhqr7pp4zha6hy7qhtqnt3tgz5sdlx3ghz6qgfwyuzchsszmwfncpsgqqqqqqshazqcn

nostr:note1eu0pyklezwkysyeelnhmfvgnuj7emgwvr3cl9sax4npc6kus77cqzsn396

Derek Ross 1y ago

When someone tells you that Nostr is just a Twitter alternative, tell them that our developers are literally rebuilding the Internet.

BTCrevolutionary 1y ago

Wow!!!

Joshua 1y ago

Would it be possible (eventually) to use this to keep nutsack.me nuts on Citrine?

BrianFitzwater 1y ago

Waiting for the release !

Is there a "why not Tor"?

ponymontana💜⚡ 1y ago

tor is slow, doesnt scale and its not flexible. A native nostr discoverablity layer (and anonimity layer) could be used in many ways.

One of them is a better tor with lightning/ecash micropayment to actually scale the service

Tor is slow because it works and people use it. Bouncing requests through one or two nodes won't provide reliable anonymity, and using relays as TCP/IP will be unbearably slow if more than two people actually use it.

ponymontana💜⚡ 1y ago

tor is slow because therse no anti-spam (actually they added a sort of proof of work client side, but it is not so effective), theres no incentive to run nodes that are the facto moslty feds and volountary. If you add micropayments as spam filter and as economic incentive for people to run relays, you can have a tor network that scales.

Also its trivial to implement in a way that provide reliable anonimity, it just need to reimplement onion routing, all problems in theory are solved.

Tor doesn't work in a browser without additional software. This will.

Anonymous 1y ago

Furthermore, you can't trust Tor servers and a huge part of them are run by governments.

The difference here is that we can choose the relay servers and avoid the ones we don't exactly trust.

nostr isn't protected against that either

Tor does work in the browser if you're prepared to run a proxy. That is additional software.

Correct, I wrote "without additional software". A proxy is additional software.

NWS main components

Entry node: It forwards tcp packets to the exit node using a SOCKS proxy and creates encrypted events for the public key of the exit node.

Exit node: It is a TCP reverse proxy that listens for incoming Nostr subscriptions and forwards the payload to the designated backend service.

nostr:note1jaclnk5n5xf4fvnzuectlqtf57t30xkmv7kn8gx8rzya3nftr95q8qrhju

https://primal.net/e/note10kjsna96qpg4am8fm99t77589k286yehhlms86lyw4faeed7p8dsvvfem0

This Will guy gets it. I should see what else he's doing

Probably the best nostr dev, rn

nostr:nevent1qqsv78sjt0u38tzgzvulema5kyf7f0va58xpcu0jcwn2esudtwg00vqpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7q3q6uq0cyx52lh2unczavzdw9dq2jphu69zutgpp9cnstz7zqtdex0qxpqqqqqqzqgvxga

Sorry, I have terrible humor

Nice and Kind Vic 1y ago

Looks like fun

sebas 1y ago

thanks for sharing, sounds very interesting, i'll try to use it locally as described in the repo and report any feedback!

Majere 1y ago

nostr:nprofile1qqsrs7xetkmms4xr5rfm944hh7dl9zekzc47vsex74fphfcu7w6956gpr9mhxue69uhks6tkv46xzmrt9ehx7um5wgcjucm0d5qscamnwvaz7tmzwf3zu6t0qy2hwumn8ghj7etyv4hzumn0wd68ytnvv9hxghnqlhg

BITKARROT 1y ago

👍

Kevin Ravens₿erg ⚡️ ☁️ 1y ago

nostr:npub1y24gz5gwucl79vtv4ctwpysl0r5m4xyzu2rgulnr44ks3t5mt92q4nz2ad uses nostr for coordinator discovery already 👀

Ƒʉͫcͧкͭιͪηͣ 𝕵𝖔𝖍𝖓 ⚡️⚡️ 1y ago

Hope this fix nostr ip leak into the relays itself

nostr:nevent1qqsv78sjt0u38tzgzvulema5kyf7f0va58xpcu0jcwn2esudtwg00vqpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsygxhqr7pp4zha6hy7qhtqnt3tgz5sdlx3ghz6qgfwyuzchsszmwfncpsgqqqqqqshazqcn

Vitor Pamplona 1y ago

Casually replacing IP. 🚀

nostr:nevent1qqsv78sjt0u38tzgzvulema5kyf7f0va58xpcu0jcwn2esudtwg00vqpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7q3q6uq0cyx52lh2unczavzdw9dq2jphu69zutgpp9cnstz7zqtdex0qxpqqqqqqzqgvxga

Иван 1y ago

#golang

Moss 1y ago

Amazing 👀

Xis10tial1 1y ago

I already do the same thing, connect to any service I want, using keys, without nostr:

https://github.com/bitfinexcom/hypertele

nobody 1y ago

this sounds really cool, well done.

shinohai 1y ago

Got this running and tested, so far so good. Nice work! Will keep tinkering with it.