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Who actually runs their own lightning nodes?

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on a vps, the service is automatically installed?

Aye

about that… i have umbrel and start 9 setup but not configured… its on my list of things to do along with 2 kids, a line trimmer sitting on my work bench and getting my cold store done

Nice try Mr. FBI πŸ‘€

We have a Layer 1 node and will be adding lightning to it later,

what is the Bitcoin Layer 1 minimum requirement to open channels for minimum liquidity?

Channels should be minimum 1 million sats

Could one:

borrow a million sats,

Setup the L2 node

Send a million sats with the new node to a swap website for L1

And repay the loan

And if so, how long can one keep that open for?

This is like Smokey repaying Big Worm his $200 by flipping the 20's over, isn't it?

IIUC, the liquidity disappears at that point because it's no longer L2, so about a millisecond. It's supposed to be locked.

The liquidity doesn't disappear if you swap it, it just moves from local/outbound to remote/inbound.

Like, you open a 1m sats channel and have 1m sats to spend and 0 sats to receive,

you swap those 1m sats to pay off your loan and then have 1m sats to receive and 0 to spend.

Doable, but just buying a channel with inbound liquidity might probably be cheaper than tx-fees + ln-fees + swap-fees + loan-fees.

Thanks for this explanation. If one uses foreign liquidity, and they go out of business, the seeds can be backed up and restored on a new node? (to not lose the L2)

You can (and should) backup a channel, yes.

You might still "lose the L2" when using such backup due to the channel being force closed, but you'll get your remaining local sats back on L1, so you're not actually losing anything (except maybe Tx-fees for the channel-close).

yes, less the fees on the swap and tx fees

Running a node is like running your little own sovereign bank and creating your own payment network. It's a thing of beauty

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I remember you told me at beefsteak and I inappropriately said "that's sexy"

Running a lightning node is sexy. I don’t make the rules. πŸ€·πŸΌβ€β™€οΈ

I’ve got three πŸ˜‚

Damn, Mike. The ladies can only handle so much.

Hi Mike ;)

I’m not that way inclined πŸ«‚

I just want you for your zaps lol

Take my 21 Sats hush money and let’s leave it there πŸ˜‚

Thanks, theres almost 800 different liquidity providers here i am trying to find them all.

My liquidity is not for the likes of you 🀣

I’ll never unsee that Derek πŸ₯Ή

lolol

You’re on my zap blacklist

I don’t want your dirty Sats, take them back……

I go back to my fiat job and miss whip cream dammit lol

wtf 🀣

#KeepNostrWeird

I can’t keep them off me πŸ˜‚

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β€œSup bb. LND or CLN? I run both and I’ll make you an LNBits sub account”

Is this new ASL?

Jawohl

🀣🀣🀣 Only if it’s not LND. Be the change you want to see in the world. Shitcoins on lightning are lame

You must be running like 10 aha

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My human nym runs their own node 🀫

Me. It's actually really easy honestly.

Saylor

Did for a while

A few of them.

Started one up recently after the Mutiny announcement

I want to but I would like some help with it.

Yessir πŸ€™πŸ»

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I do

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Did for about a month and realized it was mostly a waste of time

This isn't a poll, so maybe it's the FBI. Only they would want a written statement and a hand to fingerprint. πŸ˜‹

Exactly because the FBI hynts lithning nodes and nostr is the easy iest way to figure out who is who ^^

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yarp

I’ve always wanted to but unfortunately I don’t.

I used to but now my 1gb is full

How fast?

A small one. It ain't much but is honest work 🫢

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