Very alarming, yes.
We knew society was heading this way, from all the politically correct dictates that have been introduced over the recent decades.
It has been like watching a train wreck in slow motion, where all the NPCs have just said we were overreacting: 'it's just a new hate law to combat hate. The government will never use this to rewrite history.'
The slow nudging with increasing restrictions that reduces the window of free speech gradually. The process is treacherous: 'oh, but we already have censorship, why does it matter if we expand it a little?'
Thankfully we have physical books in private hands. We can't trust government-operated libraries to resist censorship.
Nostr may become absolutely necessary for honest and true communication. Most probably so.
Agreed, Warren.
I wrote a design suggestion earlier for making the notifications more compact + mute thread option:
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Good points regarding some of the blue bird flaws.
Thanks for the feedback. It seems there are some issues with zaps across different clients and wallets. I have tried zapping myself and it works fine from the Blixt wallet using Amethyst client. Tips seem to be working as well.
LN tips with comments are excellent signals.
Zaps are useful as quick tips.
Retweets are good signals.
Likes are good feedback mechanisms for small-medium accounts and reduce the 'yups' in the feed.
All of these can be gamed except for the LN tips.
Thanks Vitor, I like your idea of the separate, temporary block that will reduce spam while also not permablock individuals that might accidentally trigger the algorithm.
If the temporary block is triggered multiple times in a short time, the effect of the cooldown could be lengethened so that actual spammers block themselves for a long period of time, or that they activate a perma-block.
Large accounts will typically say this. Small accounts may have very little engagement if it weren't for likes. Without likes we would have a flood of short 'yup'. 10 likes = 10 less yups in the flow.
Welcome to Nostrian metalheads.🍻
I see it as several waves of contrarians.
1. Early adopter contrarians joining in the start.
2. Wait-and-see contrarians joining after considering the idea for a while.
3. Hell-no contrarians that warm up over time as the idea grows on them.
I remember I had almost zero engagement when I first joined the blue bird. A lot of us here at Nostr are disagreeable and principled individualists, so I am still impressed that the general atmosphere is fairly positive.
When principles diverge even slightly on some topic there's bound to be cliques that don't talk to each other. I can't even remember who is on what side of some minor issue and typically just talk to anyone that makes an interesting statement.
Likes are useful for small-medium sized accounts that don't receive a lot of engagement.
Posting a lot of small talk is not everyone's cup of tea, plus it clutters a feed with noise. Likes is a more efficient way of showing non-verbal agreement.
Artists posting art can get a general idea of how their followers like different types of artwork by looking at the differential in likes. It's a feedback mechanism.
Small-medium accounts may not receive much engagement so likes are a useful indicator in finding others of similar disposition. Seeing the same name/avatar repeatedly helps connect names with people.
?cid=2154d3d7gh49nadojwrviil4xcb1ktzrz09sfu70ckj8gqaw&rid=giphy.gif&ct=gI like the approach of the early Greeks and their terms Philia and Neikos; attraction and separation.
Attraction is the connection between individuals and everything that exist. Separation is what defines us as autonomous individuals, as conscious instances of the universe. We are the universe becoming decentralized. Only through our separate perceptions can the creation achieve an individual and subjective vantage point, to perceive itself from the outside-in.
As planets revolve around stars, there is balance between both attraction and separation in their trajectories. This relationship extends from the microcosm to the forces that keep galaxies together.
Where there is balance between attraction and separation, there is life and liberty.
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Thanks for considering the idea Vitor.😀
I think at least moderate to large accounts will benefit from this or a similar approach.
Of course you may find that a different solution is better, and some people may prefer the current notifications, but I think it's worth pondering.🙂
#[1] Somewhat off topic, but what do you think about a notifcation tab where responses are packed together under their relevant headline:
⏹️ Note 3 --- [x new responses]
⏹️ Note 2 --- [y new responses]
⏹️ Note 1 --- [z new responses]
This would help organize the notifications.
The note numbers above are just indicating how recent they are; in reality the headlines would be a short excerpt from the note people responded to.
When you click one of these headlines you can view these options:
⏹️ Note 3 --- Visibility Options
[Full thread] - [New responses] - [Likes]
[Mute thread] - [Mute thread forks]
When people invest into a social network they will naturally be territorial. That's fine by me though. Nostr gets most of the free market oriented developers and Mastodon will have the rest. Fair and reasonable.
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I understand your concerns Carlos.
Personally I like zaps and see no reason to remove them, just as I don't see any reason to remove likes. Both can be gamed but I am more interested in considering in which situations they may become a problem.
As I see it, the problem of both zaps + likes emerges if/when notes are sorted algorithmically by zaps or likes. We are not there yet, but it will likely arrive at some point.
Such a sorting function will be gamed by influencers to gain visibility. High visibility = more zaps and donations.
Users creating their own Lists reduces the need to have sorting algorithms.
A positive sorting would be if I go to someone's profile, and I can see an option to sort their past notes based on likes or zaps. That would be a neutral sorting approach where the notes from one person compete against each other based on public responses.
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