- there is no sponsorship from nostr to fund influencers work on nostr like with X and youtube
- there is no dms for customer contact
why is there no adoption?
first item is irrelevant. second item is keeping nostr from growing.
the way that most nostr devs don't get this most elementary need for businesses is quite amazing.
seriously, are they all coddled little fucking spoilt brats who never tried to do business or what? zero capacity for empathy, maybe, on top?
and yeah, primal is the worst. seriously, i can't recommend enough you try out #jumble https://jumble.social
for DMs the best clients are https://coracle.social and https://nostrudel.ninja
the other people need to be using them as well. the coracle interface is simpler but when you look at it all you are gonna understand what i mean. the protocol spec is a mess, and the implementations struggle to work.
i will let you know when i have got it all working.
btw, it's essentially going to be where you just put a specific #hashtag and the nostr:npub1ww8hsuav93ktwuq7x9gxz6husfphnvfjk3nm5k5y982evjh3kymqh4wakr user is mentioned so there is a `p` tag with them and voila, customer can read it from the relay but the relay won't send it to anyone else. they can then reply and you will also be able to read it.
it's a very simple hack, in fact i could probably enable it before i finish the NWC wallet connection stuff (just need to get a subscriber receiving notifications to complete that task)
it's a hack that will require you to use #jumble to do it, with the relay configured as one of your relay feeds, and send only to that relay. this is part of how i figured out this could be done, just a small extra bit of code in the relay and customer messaging.
i might have a crack at this tonight if i get through cleaning up the tests... working on a test-and-release automation for #orly so deploying it can just be download a file, add configuration and go
btw, i have been trying to get this problem fixed for 18 months.

nostr:npub10npj3gydmv40m70ehemmal6vsdyfl7tewgvz043g54p0x23y0s8qzztl5h also has the same problem. there's not really any way to fix this problem, because certain people have got a muddle in their brain that stops them being able to understand that nostr should be useful for business people.
i'm building something at the moment that is a kind of hack to work around this problem, specifically to enable automating a relay subscription system, but it is a hack to make messaging customers actually work, while remaining private (if you run the relay, it's just you and the customers).
i will let you know when i have got it all working.
btw, it's essentially going to be where you just put a specific #hashtag and the nostr:npub1ww8hsuav93ktwuq7x9gxz6husfphnvfjk3nm5k5y982evjh3kymqh4wakr user is mentioned so there is a `p` tag with them and voila, customer can read it from the relay but the relay won't send it to anyone else. they can then reply and you will also be able to read it.
it's a very simple hack, in fact i could probably enable it before i finish the NWC wallet connection stuff (just need to get a subscriber receiving notifications to complete that task)
it's a hack that will require you to use #jumble to do it, with the relay configured as one of your relay feeds, and send only to that relay. this is part of how i figured out this could be done, just a small extra bit of code in the relay and customer messaging.
i might have a crack at this tonight if i get through cleaning up the tests... working on a test-and-release automation for #orly so deploying it can just be download a file, add configuration and go
nostr:npub10npj3gydmv40m70ehemmal6vsdyfl7tewgvz043g54p0x23y0s8qzztl5h also has the same problem. there's not really any way to fix this problem, because certain people have got a muddle in their brain that stops them being able to understand that nostr should be useful for business people.
i'm building something at the moment that is a kind of hack to work around this problem, specifically to enable automating a relay subscription system, but it is a hack to make messaging customers actually work, while remaining private (if you run the relay, it's just you and the customers).
those who think that this "you will own nothing and be happy" is ok when it comes to housing, then explain these figures.
owning your own housing is a foundation stone of the family.
primal does things that are nonstandard nostr, for reasons that seem like ... petty, or short-sighted, or some other thing.
i've heard other people recently saying the same thing, despite having a lot of engagement they don't appear on primal
they called it the Global Financial Crisis, i guess you were just a kid at the time.
this is why millennials and zoomers are so depressed about the future. no job, just free money and university and all the girls are bluehairs
note how the art style of this poster is the same as the style Mozilla uses
complication and sophistry are stupidity
i'm pretty sure there would be an easy case for a federal court class action against companies doing any such thing.
there is a big issue with this in general now, also, with the hyperscaling AI cloud providers with their giant concentrated GPU laden data centers. people are NOT gonna be happy about having the NSA next door in langley to the data center "trust us bro, we won't let the NSA tap our traffic lol"
the normies are starting to wake up to the flagrant violations that have been normalized in secret and only publicly talked about by geeks, since the late 80s lol.
have you seen the AI news lady in the recent Deus Ex games... probably gonna see exactly that pretty soon, in Mankind Divided, the year is 2027. i can see AI news readers by then.
not the augmentations tho, that's haha hilarious.
if it was about the CEOs he would be preferable to slimy sam altman
in london, that's what i've heard also, nick farage was talking about it a few weeks back
nah, that's just the stupid bridge
hard to find the client tag setting. it's inside the gear button in post, not in settings
there is a huge electromagnetic flux that passes from the sun through the poles. there is now a satellite that is doing circumpolar orbits to measure the fields.
that's the actual reason for so little imagery of it. the electricity and high energy particles that are deflected by the rest of the magnetic field get funneled down through there into the earth
all magnetic fields have this property, they are called poles.
if you put a satellite up in the arc of the arctic circle, it will be nuked within a few years, if not immediately. requires far more expensive shielding and other stuff to cope with it.
see, that's my point
a kind number needs a registry more than a descriptive tag name. a P tag would be perfect to signify protocol. you don't need permission to put "P":"stella's awesome protocol" and nobody is gonna fight with you about that (i'm just being silly regarding the actual name but the point holds).
kind numbers are supposed to signify protocols so when you look at what people have designed, there is protocols with multiple tags and protocols with single, ever increasing varieties of tags. the semantics of tags and kinds are clearly intertwined. kinds are just a kind of tag, IMO.
it has lost its meaning because nobody defined one. it is indexed, it can be filtered the same way as a single letter tag, and its semantics are absolutely intolerably ambiguous, and not human readable.
dealing with making a reasonable index of them in my codebase was one of the most tedious tasks of the whole thing, second only to debugging.
it also reminds me that in many cases "dating" isn't even a formal thing. you are at a cafe and start a conversation with some person who looks interesting for some reason. you are at a party and talking to a friend and rando girl shows up and starts listening...
there is something obstructive about the thing like that meme of the "friend zone" where it stops you exploring and playing and makes it seem like some formal examination with high stakes
i had never heard of this idea before.
my understanding of psychology sees the point tho - don't take the date seriously, just "hm she seems nice, i wonder if her head is full of sand or if she's an angel, low key"
gonna use this in the future. the puzzle for me is the venue not so much as the "hey wanna have a nice meal and chat?"
also, i'm not doing the typical boy thing of trying to help the girl.
you just inspired me, so the relation here is muse and poet.
haha, you know how i feel about kinds.
special, retarded tags for commie bureaucrats of the nostr authority
it might be normalized for you but it will never be normalized for me.
data structure theory has been probably my second great love after low level GUI and input/network interfaces, and third love was the application of that in creating interactive systems
and i'm not participating in the nip circus. i will design my kind 1 events to interop reasonably with other clients where there is a reason to, but disregard the bad parts of the design.
i want to get in their face, as well as win allegiances to others who have been stepped on by them
anyway, you just gave me the idea is all.
in a few days i start learning how to build nostr front end stuff and this means i have a new project in my mind. ultra simplified, even simpler than jumble.
if you simply remove the root tag, but keep ONLY the direct mention of the replied to event, and the replied to event, you don't close the door to the other users on other clients.
but it ends hellthreads for our users, at the same time, and by rendering the reply-only e reference as a quote
it's simplifying the thing, achieves the same visual result, uses less data, and creates an incentive for users to move to the better client.
this is strategy. it's also simpler to implement, doesn't require using nevent entities, it will still appear as a reply to the other clients who will get the notification, and see what it relates to
it's an exploit of their pattern that works against them.
people WILL like it better, and it's a simpler solution than just only allowing quoting. it just removes the head of the double linked list
and bury the thread references in a menu button that is in the overflow ...
yeah, also you could have a setting "don't show quote replies from follows if you mute the quoted npub"
this would end thread notification trolling
the freedumbs relay cult want to blame users for being gullible, when part of the reason why these scammers are here is because of the freedumb relays, and the low cost of the operation.
no, the real blame lies with the brainwashed freedumb cult aNoNyMoUs patsies that make up most of nostr's dev in-crowd and as such they place zero priority on paid relay services run by honorable relay operators and all of the necessary things that they need, are, because of this culture, unavailable.
nostr:npub10npj3gydmv40m70ehemmal6vsdyfl7tewgvz043g54p0x23y0s8qzztl5h has many times talked about how hard it is to communicate *privately* with his customers because DMs are broken and DMs are broken because nobody cares about actually protecting privacy when it can be done easily. half the relays don't even do auth or ACLs properly.
it's irritating, and double irritating to hear this kind of blame-the-victim chatter from people.
you cunts are just as guilty as the people you enable. how about that?
i'm working on a work-around, also, for the lack of DMs that affects paid relay operators who have an incentive to keep their customers, unlike the free relays who are receiving money from sponsors to keep up the freedumb services so that they can be spammed to hell.
anyone who has read half of the base NIP specs would have run across the concept of not sending messages to people who haven't authed to the key of one of the pubkeys named in an event. really simple. somehow when i showed up 18 months ago nobody had picked up on this and actually implemented it.
and the reason is, they are all hypnotised by the influencoors and their aNoNyMoUs powered brainwashing to not even consider the idea that nostr relay operators are not all going to be the kind of privacy violators that characterize the majority of internet service providers (if they aren't already known recipients of funding from spook agencies).
some of us have been using the internet for social networking since long before facebook. people who offer such services or are running them for a community tend to be quite diligent about spam control and privacy protection.
the complacency of most nostr rockstars about privacy is so freakin annoying. and then after you hear them talk about not wanting to be doxxed by authing in the next sentence they are complaining about adoption.
oh, no connection between these things, i'm sure.
And you can't even see my direct Lightning ⚡ payments...
And I zap from multiple npubs...
https://www.nostrzap.com/npub1m4ny6hjqzepn4rxknuq94c2gpqzr29ufkkw7ttcxyak7v43n6vvsajc2jl
weak consistency is not a bug, it's a feature :)
yeah, i'm implementing a complete NWC client library and simple CLI too to make sure it's all working rn. then i'm making a subscription manager, all the configs, the special events it will use to store the configs, and the "only visible to you" privilege check so it can message you without the user needing a client that groks DMs - not that any of them do anyway.
i'm using codestral running on my GPU right now to write a simple little CLI tool... it only made one method available. haha. ok, but it was reasonable text it wrote. should be gud for the docs and commit comments.
gonna use junie for this. junie is the real code agent.
because gitcitadel is a software project not a propaganda bureau
my god, they are going full fourth reich with this one
i'm surprised how fast it's saying the events were published tho. if you use the import tool on a trove of events of around 117k, it takes about 15 seconds to swallow the whole lot, which means it's more like 8000 events/s
but maybe you have faster, next generation hardware, my pc has like 3 years ago tech in it. i've used a hetzner server that was about 3-4x faster at everything in my recent previous project with a large database iteration (comparing a set of 1000 records to each other, N(N-1) operations, something like, what was it, 400,000 operations in total. this included standard library JSON decoding. i was going to optimize that stuff with a decoder cache but it was working well enough for processing one row at a time.
nostr:nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7mtvv44h2tnwdaehgu339e3k7mf0qyghwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtcqypxgqqjh5ky2s2zf6pyczlptm2kesje953ddnak66ehy05a50caj75ukn0y here you go: https://github.com/mleku/orly/pull/4
I originally ran the benchmark on v0.4.8, but when I pulled your recent changes from 0.4.14, I saw large performance improvement. Great job!
very nice. merged. i figure this tool can be pointed at other relays for comparison also.
what's coming is worse than an EMP. you may have read about what happened in the Carrington Event? telegraph wires were on fire.
well, now our houses are full of wire, all electrical devices are full of wire. even large metallic items will catch fire.
electrical technology is screwed, basically.
that low friction is why nostr will win
i personally have always preferred sour to sweet
mainly because it's not able to be written to as an outbox due to routing. i think you have a service that provides this capability though?
i've just been thinking more about how to fit together the hindu and other religions concept of reincarnation, with the "eternal life" stuff in the bible
it's quite simple actually, and not any kind of necromantic craziness
if you know about the theory of how reincarnation works, then you would know that one of the elements of the process is that the rebirth process involves erasing the memory of past lives.
then you can say, that maybe what the biblical texts were talking about is a knowledge and technique whereby newly born individuals, who had a past history of previous lives, have that cloud of forgetting removed, and are born with the full memory of all of their past lives.
this would totally qualify as an "eternal life" because if all who are born, have this done, then even though they live the mortal life, they know all of their "eternal life" history, and it works out much the same. except for that process of the development of the body, the first 35 or so years of life the memory would be there but the capacities would not be fully developed yet.
the other thing is that according to those old texts, and other stories from ancient history, the capacity for lifespan of humans is actually around 800 years.
so, combined with full past life recall, and extended lifespan, you would have something as near enough to the actual realisation of this concept of "eternal life" while reconciling the apparent differences between reincarnationist model versus the eternal life model.
i know it would be quite shocking to have a baby and within a year it's telling you stories in fully adult language of their history, maybe even able to speak multiple languages, but i think this is what it actually means.
it happens occasionally, by accident, there is many accounts of this in recent historical lore about reincarnation. the buddhists select their Dalai Lama based on physical markings that transit between lives, it's a mark on the foot, if i remember correctly. some cases exist also of small children telling stories of their past lives that were verifiable, as well.
this synthesis resolves the apparent differences between the two, and hints at what is to come, when our branch of the human tree wakes up and starts to bloom as well.
I've always been on the team, really, but I have PR phobia. 😂
Need to start PRing more, nagging less.
my relay was not competent enough until a couple of weeks ago anyway. that happened because my fiat mine was nagging me to get into using AI coding agents, and then i practiced on #orly and quickly fixed all the problems.
so, it did have to wait for this. before this the codebase was a mess of bugs.
yup, i just have one more... feature... and then i swear i put it on the down low
well, if i manage to build a basis for a profitable business out of my code then i get the best of both worlds. and other people who join in the work will have the same opportunity.
the local parish doesn't have much use for the programming skills and it makes no sense to pivot so far away from where your greatest efficiencies are.

