That's true, but following Christ entails the whole package. We don't get to pick and choose. He did not compromise with Pharisees. He told them the truth that they needed to hear, and for a while it turned them away, but they kept coming at him and building a case against him and in the end they killed him. But Jesus didn't compromise, even to the end. This one is just another Pharisee, morally camouflaged as a Christian. His Christianity is ego only, and he proved it. I engaged in conversation with him specifically because he says in his bio (could be a she, idk) that he's a Christian. That turned out to be a lure and a deception. How forgiving should I be of this? That depends entirely on him. He made his choice by blocking me. That's the third overtly christian nostrich to block me instead of engaging with the material. If you look at the history of the conversation, you'll see that he made an assertion based on his Christian worldview, which I resonated with and tried conversing about, but he didn't want to deal with anything that might threaten his biases (which, IMO nothing I said did, but you can see that's how he reacted).
We both said sort of similar things replying to each other simultaneously. 😂
Thank you. I did mean it literally. I don't always want to be right. It was my reaction, and at least partially an assumption. I'm at a difficult point in my relationship with Christians. I'm being forced to choose between Christ and Christians. The correct path is to be forgiving and keep trying with them. But I'm human and I'm tired...
I'm reminded of what Jesus said, that most who cone to him saying they follow him, he will ignore. Or something like that.
As I am discovering over and over and over... Christians hate truth. They are utterly intolerant of it. Prove me wrong. Please.
Oh interesting. Examples? 😁
I think I get it, but I should ask first
You're awfully fragile. There's a "Christian" way of handling this, and you chose to be unchristian.
You were right, and I regretted saying this, but look at his response here. He proved it.
This pattern is becoming very onerous. I'm at a point where I have my guard up anytime someone says they're a Christian.
I'll just put the note ID here in case it becomes hard to find for any reason :
Don't worry about the zaps - we've both exchanged real value, so the numerical representation is superfluous.
I wouldn't say exactly that the mark *is* the ego - only that each term refers to the same thing. They didn't have a word for ego thousands of years ago. And ego, as currently used, is usually an oversimplification, usually conflated with self importance, which certainly comes from ego, but isn't the whole ego. Ego is self identification, which makes it error, but the purpose of ego is actually to reduce error and be an interface (like the controls in helicopter cockpit) between our real selves and the material world. In Jungian psychology, ego is differentiated from Shadow because if you're identifying with anything as yourself (I am nice, I am patient, I am studious, etc) then you're excluding those opposites and you get a huge category of 'other' which gets assigned an emotional response - but I think that's all still part of ego. In the Bible, the "deceiver" is Satan, and if you look at Satan's conversation with Jesus, where Satan says he'll give Jesus the world, you can very easily substitute Satan with ego and it still works. I'm not saying Satan is the ego, though - which side is real? Which flows from which? Identification with substantive "is" and "aren't" is the error - on this side of the veil, you can't know and language can never encapsulate the true is's and am's.
Remember when Jesus was confronted by the Pharisees and he said their father is the deceiver and he was a liar and murderer from the beginning? And Jesus' father is God, or the most high - I kinda forgot how it goes. The Pharisees were very concerned with the "right" way of doing things. A concern like that comes from ego, which is the story teller and deceiver. The ego is a murderer from the beginning because it kills truth - it also kills virtue, by way of inserting "should" into things, and virtues flow from God and are intrinsic to human nature. When Jesus said that you can't serve two masters, because you will love one and hate the other - that second part clarifies who the masters are. Love and hate come from identification, and in Jungian terms, love is from ego and hate from shadow - which is really all just ego. Ego is from the body, so its the lower master ; God is eternal and creative, so God is the higher master, which I k kW is obvious.
It takes a lot of words to nail down precision. Sorry about that....
The speed of light proves we're in a simulation.
Wait wait wait, I'm not ready to expand on that 😂
Reading the part of the Qur'an where it says that Allah declares war on riba and people accepting/paying riba was what convinced me that the Qur'an contains Truth. Idk if the whole thing is true - figuring that out is a much bigger project - but that part definitely is. It also said somewhere that it will be as if the usurers were driven insane by Satan. You can see this! Its obvious to any bitcoiner, people are behaving irrationally because of fiat money. Its more than the high time preference - its values too, how people treat each other. People rush around accomplishing very little, with gold fish attention spans, and accumulating unnecessary habits and things and expenses, and they have no capacity to engage in a deep conversation. It really does look insane. Fiat brains.
Thanks. I think people might feel let down if they agree with it, though. People really want biblical things to be grandiose, but I think this interpretation makes it relatively mundane.
Me too, both
K, looked it up - it was Freud. So probably not. Bummer...
Very possible, but idk. It was probably either Freud or Jung who invented the term (worth looking up in a sec) and if it was Jung, then almost definitely.
Someone please tell me I haven't found **_yet another Christian hypocrite._** I'm really getting tired of it.
This is going to be difficult... And if you find something you disagree with, please be civil. Maybe I can calibrate this so it doesn't trigger stuff...
The name "Revelations" is the first hint. Its a revealing. You reveal things that are hidden. And "Apocalypse" is just Greek for "revelation/unveiling." So a truth is coming forth. What did Jesus say about truth specifically? He's the truth, but that's basically allegory, since its unexplained. The truth will set you free. That's actually just always true, though. If you live in illusion of any sort, you're enslaved to the falsehood, even if you're unaware of it. The whole purpose of Jesus' ministry is to bring out the truth in people. Sure, if you believe in Jesus, you're saved - again, though, its unexplained. What are the mechanics? Why? Rhetorical questions - the answer is, you're liberated from illusion, which had caused you to miss the mark, so you stop sinning. This is probably not a zenlike moment of satori - you awaken a little bit at a time, depending on the grace you're given and your studies and whether you have good examples around you. We're human. There's a process. You become less sinful as you mature, basically. Hopefully.
The purpose of the whole New Testament is just this - learn to stop sinning, build the temple/church within your heart, let God dwell in yourself. Sure there's history, but history isn't the point of it. The point is the transformation taking place as you realign your values. The reason I'm bringing all this non-revelations stuff into it is, it would be a very strange break from the rest of the NT if the last book was prophesy and not psychology. And speaking of prophesy, Jesus said they were all fulfilled. So, for all these reasons, I think Revelations is about psychology, rather than a prediction of events happening in the world, which by that point in the bible, you shouldn't be placing any value on (the physical world).
Okay. Now... Before I get to the mark, I want yo talk about... Economics. Lol. The word "economics" comes from Greek - "economia" - and it didn't have anything to do with money. Economia is the movement of the Spirit, either yours or the big one. Its value transmission. You can see it : if you say something nice to someone, that might brighten their day and then they'll say nice things, and you get a ripple effect and the "good" in the world increases because of your initial choice. This touches on Aristotelian thinking - the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. And it goes the other way too, spreading hate. This is the movement of spirit. Maybe not the Holy Spirit, but it gets a response there, too. If saying something nice can manifest Paradise, essentially, how much more so can forgiveness? Or giving? Or just having a conversation in a loving manner? The is the transmission of value. Economics in the money sense is actually about this too, but it's more like a numerical estimation of psychology. The magnitude and frequency of the numbers moving tell us about how much things are valued, but those numbers aren't the value - the value is the value, and the numbers only symbolize that. So, while you see physical things moving, the true movement is the value. You could say that physical movement is a reaction to nonphysical movement, and that the realm of value, which is to say, Spirit, is the real world. That is not to say that the material world doesn't exist. Its just that we don't experience the complete world if we think that this materiality is all there is.
Esoterically, the division between the material world of sense and assumption is separated from the real world of spirit by a veil, which was originally symbolized by the veil that hung in the temple of Jerusalem, which was ripped in two at the moment when Jesus breathed his last breath. That's in John, iirc, though I don't want to risk losing the note by looking it up (amethyst doesn't save drafts while typing them). The whole scene is symbolic (real things can be symbolic) of your path through this adventure of life back to God, where you're in union with God and complete and in the complete reality, no longer separated from Truth in any way.
**_Now_** I can get to Revelations. The truth is revealed. The earthquakes are the shaking of your understanding. Your world changes from materiality to spirituality, and though its still the world, it's different. You were blind before and now you see. Remember what I said about numbers being symbolic? 666 is Hebrew symbolism for rationality, incompleteness, and humans. In other words, ego. Ego is the part of your psyche (psyche is Greek for "soul," BTW) that tells stories. It recognizes patterns, remembers things, generates stories, and is very helpful in being a human. Indispensable... And its a complete liar. The stories are all lies. Useful lies, but still wrong. It deceives you, justifies itself, counts things and makes you envious and ambitious, inserts "should" into things, and that word does far more harm than good. The ego is of this material world, and it gate keeps value. Value is a matter of spirit. So, the mark of the beast, which no one can buy or sell without, separates you from God.
Alright, that's the best I can do without turning it into a book. I'll also say that I don't know what the crowns of the various rulers mean in Revelations. I've heard nice interpretations, but nothing that convinced me.
Uhh. Sorry for the long read...
This is why Bitcoin is our weapon **_against_** the mark of the beast.
Anyone can make a wallet, no permission, no one knows, not even Bitcoin. IF the mark is indeed this exoteric thing, and I personally don't think it means this, but I can be wrong, and if I am, then Bitcoin was literally made for Christians. Pick up your weapons. Not "real" weapons - our battle is against wickedness in high places, and our weapons are invisible. You didn't think we'd get to this hour and not be provided the weapons we need, did you? We're meant to accept this challenge, and conquer.
Like I said, this isn't how I interpret it. But that old magical principle, "as within, so without," could make the matter moot.
This might be why North Koreans can't fix their country. Their spirit was killed by the surveillance.
Just don't care about the judgement, prob solved
Yeah what they think is happiness, which is usually just hedonism or ego
Its because the evangelical churches are bland. There's no real differences between them, and they don't know what their denomination means or is supposed to stand for. It's all just a bland mass (unintended but decent pun) of evangelical, all saying the same things, playing the same songs, the same formula of pastor making a performance and then disappearing. Try this, please, anyone - go to a Methodist church, then a Baptist church, then a Pentecostal church, and try telling me what actual differences you find. All the same. All doing the same failing stuff. I'm not even catholic. I just know a problem when I see one.
buddy.lol/ is your friend.
I underestimated how long y'all could keep talking about chicken frog buttes. Its astonishing...
Cool, Hi, nice to meet you. I just get the nostr urge in waves. One week too much ; next, too little, kinda like sleep and eating. Uhh... Well anyways. Grace and Truth are both two of my favorite things 🤔
Well said. That's basically what I do, with the small twist that if something matters, bitcoiners will probably be saying meaningful stuff about it, at least moreso than the news or the hypnotized regular people. Not perfect, I know.
I guess I better finish breaking bad. I stopped back when it was still on TV and told myself I'd pick it up again once I could binge the whole thing.
Even sicker and crazier than glyphosates?
Anyone ever noticed that sunlight in Eurasia is whiter than in North America? NA sunlight is yellower. What explains this?
I think this is right. But also, I usually try to point out that multiple interpretations can be correct, and even a single event can be both historical and symbolic. I've never heard a Christian respond positively to that. If people want the mark to be a chip, or our phones, it can be, while also being our actions, while also being the debased coinage of the Romans. But none of the physical versions could happen without the internal mark, so your interpretation seems most correct to me.
🤔 nonlinear thinking
Ah shit, I thought being a podcaster was cringe enough, now I need to go full cringe car-driving vlogger.
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You could even invent new layers of cringe on top of it. Like... Hmm. Slowly eat a lollipop while ranting in the car.
That's basically what I've been suspecting. Also cats follow me - I wonder if it means I need healing
🤔 take note of who responds or doesn't respond to your notes, especially if you replied to their note. If they ignore you repeatedly, ruthlessly expunge the asshat from your follow list. At some point, you'll want to thin out that list anyways.
Jeez, way to just casually say the whole meaning of, like, everything... "Happiness comes from going within and healing wounds, not projecting and expecting..." Yep. By some interpretations, that's what the cross symbolizes, or part of it. Well... Yeah, part.
I think most people are good. Certainly everyone is the hero in their own story. We recognize the bad in others as a mirror of the bad in ourselves, then react more to our own shadow than the other person.
Have you ever thought of returning to Mormonism, just better equipped with all the things you've learned? More in control, or something like that?
You're hallucinating. Or you didn't actually read my reply. Or you just like saying nonsense. Idk. You do you, man.
This is why I try to leave an emoji if I have no reply - they'll know I saw it. Usually I when I can't think of a reply, its because its a new day and I've lost the wavelength of the convo.