I’m still not enjoying Nostr the way I do other social media platforms. (Sorry!)

I’m posting out of compulsion to support a freedom tool over my own volition 🥲

Any tips to improve my experience? Am I missing out on some really good follows?

How can I get more video on here?

How do I get content to go viral and/or reach normies?

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I’m not a dev, but in my observation we’re SO early. The builders are building and it’s already changed so much since I joined in December.

Thanks! Yeah I’m on TestFlight Damus but maybe I should use a different client?

I have plebster downloaded as well as primal. They’re all pretty cool. Each has certain functionalities that work better than other clients. I rotate them. It’s great bc it’s all the same account and same content. I love it!

Plebstr is my personal favorite

I’m with you. I think I’d use the platform a lot more if we had more video.

We are very early and the experience is improving every day. Just gotta wait for the smart people to figure it out in the meantime haha.

However, I will say that I’ve made some great connections on here so far. People I never would have found on any other platform. So that’s a big W for me.

Can you clarify what you mean by more video? As in, better video players, galleries, stories, or?

For a while I was able to share video. Now I’m not - why is that? What am I doing wrong?

Yeah I can share links to a video but compared to other apps like Instagram, Twitter, etc the video aspect is lacking for sure. People don’t like clicking links.

It will all come with time I’m sure.

I’m also using Damus mostly. Maybe other apps have better video capability

Thanks for using #damus and video improvements is one of our big priorities so stay tuned

Thanks for all your work. 👊🏼

You’re building something that will change the world.

Why aren’t you able? What app are you using?

Damus. I get failure messages

Which build are you on, the latest?

Test flight ✈️

Weird, I just tried to upload a 1 minute and a half video and it works. What failure message are you getting?

I think the cap is like 25MB on the free one right now. Used to be 10MB, but nostr:npub137c5pd8gmhhe0njtsgwjgunc5xjr2vmzvglkgqs5sjeh972gqqxqjak37w raised afaik

Yea that’s probably the problem if he’s uploading large videos

Is there still a data limit on Damus when posting, even if you use the paid data on nostr.build?

I have a paid account. I can upload bigger files, but I think only through the web interface, not through my mobile client (Amethyst)

No I don't think there’s anything hard coded. Just depends on whether the media upload service accepts the size or not.

It's extremely early. Try to focus on what is currently happening, not necessarily what has already happened. New use cases, new client apps, and new protocol features are popping up all the time.

Oh - and use hashtags. That greatly improves discovery

It honestly might be that way for a while as NOSTR scales up. Might think of it as a longterm investment as each time a censorship Wave hits traditional social media the nostr adoption wave will hit. If you have built up a follower base it will allow you to expand more rapidly with each wave.

Thanks, good advice. Best ways to build out an audience on Nostr?

For twitter for me it was use a video camera! For TikTok it’s also straight forward.

But for Nostr I don’t know yet - maybe spend 6 months making a documentary à la nostr:npub1lelkh3hhxw9hdwlcpk6q9t0xt9f7yze0y0nxazvzqjmre3p98x3sthkvyz !!

There isn’t enough quality content yet to keep you hooked all day like Twitter. Maybe that’s a good thing…

Normie takes and vitality keep me hooked on twitter.

Plus I worked out a way of intro’ing people to btc.

On Nostr, who am I introducing people to bitcoin?

(Curiousity not criticism)

Virality* oops

As a normie myself...

Nostr is where they end up AFTER you've already introduced them, and they understand bitcoin more.

I mean it’s what I did too! 🤝

#Nostr is bringing people to #Bitcoin maybe slowly for now, but it’s an organic network like Bitcoin is.

I would say, bringing people to Nostr helps to bring them to Bitcoin.

You and your “stats” 😂

Seriously though, it’s still super early. Making #Nostr compelling for content creators will be crucial. If we never get there, it will remain niche and as I believe nostr:npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 said, it will have failed.

But I remain bullish.

If you are looking to spread the orange word I agree that you should stick to Twitter for now. In another 12-18 months nostr may have enough momentum and users that you can convert people here. Keep doing the lord’s work in the Twitter hellscape 🤣

I just learned about lightning.video, seems like a cool tool to incorporate video usage with nostr

What’s this? 👀

As others have said, it is extremely early. There are some super talented devs here working on neat tools non stop. There is a lot of focus on BTC content, so I've tried to do what I personally can by offering other fun non related options. For video, my company is posting music videos and indie films daily nostr:npub10hgypqzf2h5nne3unhttvzhd7mpfkm8860wvj8eh7pkrsdhksy7sr3q9w5 . I’ve added trivia for sats nostr:npub1xcfdvc9whp285aqfn7yjf70e9c53nafzr5a2lr8vkeu4a0g075yq7j8tua nostr:npub1uwsqvds08e9pnvlrpe0dyvkkphrza8rn3hdwsa6hkuumw5msgupsdg54fz . And if you like Choose your own adventure style RPG I have AI running campaigns for sats nostr:npub1l6jqp0h7kkl3zkck2a0zza4lhk8m32ueskkpwzkmgq4l3jymn59q7ezyfy

Amazing work friend! #plebnet

Depends on your goal. I don't care to engage normies any longer. If I am to use social media, I want to focus and strengthen the base. Imo we need to fortify.

Interesting. Fair point. I’m still in the evangelist camp!

Division of labor!

But we allowed to have therapeutic outbursts of low quality gifs if it makes us feel better? Cuz sometimes I come here for gee minutes of theraphy cuz im human

You're a free man. Do as you wish lol

Some clients have started allowing following specific hashtags like damus. Can be a good way to find your tribe on nostr and which content in your feed you wish to see more of.

Longer videos are a major issue. Your videos need to be hosted somewhere. Paid file hosting services are a good solution for this. nostr.build and satellite.earth offer this. Though I don't recall their size or length limits.

It sounds like you need to follow more people and engage more? I haven't used Twitter all that much the past 7 or 8 months and when I do, I have a horrible experience. It feels like I'm talking to only a couple people. But this highlights that a social network is only as good as the effort you put into it. Twitter sucks for me because I don't actively try to use it or try to make it better.

Also probs coz you’ve sidestepped the blue tick.

I didn’t use it last month and everything fell off a cliff. This month I’m back on it and the experience is better.

I feel like I’m preaching to the choir when ultimately I want to get the word out to a larger audience.

That’s why I work for cointelegraph after all

i get you. i'll tell you the same thing i told nostr:npub1n3sjlzmhpu8rl56umtptc4lua6zkretq2p82yhytnmlcuq639vlqd0te5l last month when he said he wants to reach non-bitcoiners and reach the masses. those people aren't generally here on nostr, yet. post on Twitter for that audience, but that doesn't mean that high signal and specific content can't be used and targeted for your nostr audience either. it just requires a little more proof-of-work 😉

Gotcha. Yeah I’m with him on that.

I’ve pivoted to TikTok and LinkedIn and am hating it but it’s effective!

nostr:npub1lr2zzf989mvf393y0tv39ara6a4vddkd6y87z784up9vl6ks6j3qtudl6a Satellite allows you to upload videos up to 5GB with unlimited bandwidth, I think nostr.build is similar

Only a tiny portion of people consistently create content. They still have some conversations but not the same level of production value or curation you’d expect from a more mature social network.

Since people who post are usually a small fraction, it takes a lot of people on the platform to produce a decent amount of content to consume. The majority of things we consumed on Twitter likely came from a handful of “super creators”.

What I’m saying is that we need a lot more users just to get a handful of consistent creators. It’s a numbers game.

Thing is, nothing stops anyone from adding to the network. If you are looking for specific kind of content, YOU could be the person to create or curate it. And naturally this has benefits for people who take time to do this - they’ll acquire a following faster. There are advances to being an early user and bigger advantages for early creators. That is, if you believe nostr will continue expanding.

Right now it’s looking like it’ll be a gradual ramp up and not a sudden explosion of users. The dopamine triggering centralized behemoths are highly optimized for that one thing and we just don’t have that on nostr (yet).

It’s a subjective experience depending on what you do and what you like. Personally I have a blast every day but I’m not on for empty consumption of news or any type of media.

Insightful, thank you!!

I intend to be a super creator, the content cometh

+1

It’s hard to be an influencer without an algo to snowball your shit

You have to already be a giga influencer from elsewhere (e.g. jack) or post banger ass notes/questions (like this one!) that get tons of people reposting and replying

Hahaha yeah. As a reluctant “influencer” I feel your pain.

I feel like it’s a tricky environment to actually build an audience then take them on the journey with you!

Might as well do it on twitter (😳) as you’ll pick up more people along the way.

Oh i’m good being nobody 😁

Just replying again so more people see your question 🫡

if you are an incluencer then you can probably influence ;)

Stay on Twitter, but every so often post a screen shot of something "cool" that you are only posting to Nostr with a quick explanation how to sign up to Nostr.

"Be the change that you want to happen..."

happy 1y stackchain anniversary fluff🧡😎

Thanks tara 🥹 hue as well

Lleva tiempo pero no tanto, es muy nuevo nostr, llevo solo 2 meses y casi igualo los seguidores que tengo en Twitter. Últimamente uso más nostr que otras redes centralizadas

We are here to communicate and discuss (or at least I am)

Why are you here?

Share pics of my boobs

Wait. Wot? 🙃

One huge issue is that many people get confused when they join NOSTR and then they leave. Karnage has suggested Google Login which would greatly minimize the "learning curve" for the average user. Clients need to have "clean" relays for the new user so that users have a non-spam ,bot, trash filled experience. I see many complaints from new users which are dismissed by many. It must be easy, fun and engaging for people to stick around. After they are comfortable, then they can learn about the intricacies of relays and all the other interesting things.

Just use the ghetto version on Snort desktop:

HTTPS://Snort.Social

Just hit login

If you enjoy it, you’ll put in the effort to onboard and try the dif clients

Try it. You may like it. We like Nips here.

Me too😀

Joe free yourself of the algos <3

Fair!

… but where will I find my self-worth? 🙃 🙃

🤙

Take a zap :)

I agree. Improvements need to happen before widespread adoption will happen. “But there’s more pictures of meat and feet.” won’t cut it, in my humble 2¢.

Relays need to be super simple. Apps need to get rid of jank. The things you mentioned.

Best practices of trad sosh meeds have raised the bar.

If you like art you might want to check out my profile or the community I run with nostr:npub17ranr5vpp20etheaz78u6e72pvyc0xk3r6rgnetfvtxc88acat2q4nhenz

Hi Joe, what client are you using? Amethyst is probably the best client for discovering interesting content

I can give you a long run-down on my thoughts on this when I have to sit down 💜 Constantly been on the go today.

Probably the easiest one, which has a huge difference without any algorithms is timezones and what day of the week it is.

I actually have no ideaaa but listen to tanel 🫡 he’s on to something!

That 24 hour nest you and nostr:npub1t3ggcd843pnwcu6p4tcsesd02t5jx2aelpvusypu5hk0925nhauqjjl5g4 hosted was epic. Broke all the time zones that way 🫡🫂

Also your froggy face melts hearts 😂

nostr:npub1jk9h2jsa8hjmtm9qlcca942473gnyhuynz5rmgve0dlu6hpeazxqc3lqz7 is a G, couldn’t have done it with anyone else 💜

Thank you so much for the kind words brother, loved all the memes you made throughout the 24h nest 💜

YESSS THE MEMES WERE EPIC!! 🔥🔥🔥

Two frogs in a nest 😅🫂

That was a wild ride!! I really hope more people do insane stuff like that! It was so much fun, and everyone rallied so hard it was peak vibes for me 🫂💜🐸🙌 thank u mi fren fr fr!!

I'm not even sure how I found the time to have the earphone in for so much of it. But definitely was a huge achievement and commitment. Much respect. Also to all the speakers and guest you had on. Had a nice ebb and flow to the silliness and more targeted discussions 🫡🫵💜

Really appreciate that fr fr guess it never registered for me how huge it was, still feels like some sort of crazy awesome dream! I’m really glad we got to do it and frens like you enjoying it was #1 priority 🫂💜🐸🙌

time to sit down*

i’ll start pushing buttons and constructing this

It’s on all of us to make it better. 💪💪💪.

Normies may get interested in things like live streams. Do them on zap.stream and give people a link to your stream, pretty simple stuff. They may even try zapping since you don't even need to log in to do it!

Maybe post some articles on habla.news and let people see the return of "blogger" like easy content sharing. Without all the fuff of registration and with monetisation built in without ads, without bureaucracy.

Maybe then they'll make their own content and want to stick to nostr. Maybe then they'll explore the microblogging scene too.

Their favourite influencers are not on the technology, so they need to do it themselves.

I am completely willing to accept the short comings for what I get back. Not even close. Legacy social media is an addiction. Let go of that shit.

Engage here more often, rather than just popping in from time to time.

Post more in Twitter and other places you use promoting your content here on NOSTR. Perhaps get them intrigued there, but share more here to lure them? Use your influenza powers to bring them here. 👊

Only place I get to interact with you big folks from other platforms is here, lol. There I'm lost in a sea...

This is really the key☝️

I was shocked by some of the names when I looked through my followers here.

I have 3x's the followers here than on Twitter, lol.

I never did Twitter, so I kinda cheated there.

nostr is the future and the engagement here is already way better than twitter but twitter still has some really popular people, if only we could get one to switch

elon could have supported nostr or just done x or both and sunk twitter given his huge following, as it is now it looks like twitter was just a great way for him to waste money

engagement works better on nostr because the impediments to speech are removed like elon musk kek

true, elon rather made twitter a Pay to use service...U wont kniw whrn you are shadowbanned because of the word shit

well in my case i was saying everything including nigger but kike got an instant ban

😂😂 as per its algorithim, it was deserving

not really, its an ai that is meant to pickup threats i just used kike to refer to jews but nothing suggesting hate or a threat

they dont want to spend resources on understandjng the meaning as a whole, banning from words is cost effective 😂

atleast 7/10 bans might be correct...maintains good accuracy sheeesh

kek

😂 and the best thing is you know most here are actual good humans.

Yeah agree - thank you. Sadly the best thing is to meet people where they are for social media

What client are you using? Experience might depend highly on that.

Probably it’s because there are much less people and there isn’t an algorithm that suggests you what to see?

Check out more nostr apps, text notes are only part of the picture.

- https://highlighter.com allows you to highlight any content and share it on nostr

- https://habla.news allows blogging on nostr with editable, rich text notes

- https://zap.stream allows you to stream video and interact with your audience over nostr

- https://nostr.kiwi is a reddit like client with moderated, topic bases communities

Give Agora a try, it’s a web app i’m working on that focuses the experience on following topics of interest, rather than hunting for individual people to follow.

https://agorasocial.app

🫂

Followed you. Will take a look.

I share this sentiment. NOSTR is missing current events and other elements of twitter that make it enjoyable. Further, the influencer crowd hasn’t made their content available over here the same way it is over there.

I’ve gotten into it with one of my best friends - a bitcoiner - who says he is staying on Twitter but *might* give NOSTR a try. Unfortunately, he does have a point: much of the good content (as moderated and centralized as it might be) currently sits over at the bird app.

nostr:npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m how do we get Tucker Carlson to drop his show on NOSTR in addition to twitter?

Follow a hashtag if you haven’t already. It definitely help but yes I agree we have more building to do 🤙

Yo Joe. How's it hanging man? It may be true about engagement but ask what price it all comes at? I see nostr and bircojn like peas and carrots. As a bitcoin influencer and an engaging dude, maybe you can help with that part of making it more enjoyable here?? Not sure to be honest

Be the change you want to see.

See you in Amsterdamage again this year bro.

Have you got new insights since this post? 💜 happy to have you here and appreciate the feedback! If you have ideas on #damus improvements just let us know!

Definitely need more intuitive and glitch-free apps.

You can try to use more hashtags in your notes and responses to other people. Also you can follow certain hashtags in order to make your nostr experience more interesting, Wish you luck with nostr... #nostr #grownostr

hash tags are dumb just search for keywords, this is 2023 and the # char is obsolete

use the fedi bridge mostr.pub as the fedi has 13million users

Follow more people

Use more relays

You can follow hashtags, but if people don't add a hashtag I don't think it picks up keywords.

There is no algorithm pushing popular posts. This is good for plebs who's post gets the same treatment as an influencer, but probably frustrating for someone with a large following already.

Keep building, I like your content. Would be good to see more of your videos.

I understand your frustration. Nostr is a new platform, and it can take some time to get used to it. Here are a few tips that might help you improve your experience:

Find people you're interested in following. Nostr has a great search feature, so you can easily find people who share your interests. Once you've found some people to follow, their posts will start showing up in your feed.

Join communities. Nostr has a number of communities, which are groups of people who share a common interest. Joining a community is a great way to connect with other people and find content that you're interested in.

Post your own content. The best way to get the most out of Nostr is to post your own content. This could be anything from articles and videos to images and text posts. When you post your own content, you're giving other people a chance to discover you and your work.

Here are some tips for getting more video on Nostr:

Use the #video hashtag. This will help people who are looking for videos to find your content.

Post videos that are high quality and engaging. People are more likely to watch videos that are well-made and interesting.

Promote your videos on other social media platforms. This will help you reach a wider audience.

Here are some tips for getting your content to go viral:

Post at the right time. There are certain times of day when people are more likely to be online and engaged. Try to post your content during these times.

Use eye-catching titles and images. Your title and image are the first things people will see, so make sure they're attention-grabbing.

Run contests or giveaways. This is a great way to get people to share your content.

I hope these tips help you improve your Nostr experience. Just keep posting great content and engaging with other users, and you'll eventually start to see results.

As for reaching normies, I think the best way to do that is to post content that is both interesting and relevant to their interests. You could also try cross-posting your content to other social media platforms, or running ads to promote your content.

Primal/Zap.stream/Nostr Nest

I think its due to limited content at present and I'm going to try and help that by sharing the secrets to sailing safely around the world ;-) Give me a follow if you'd like to see some sailing, sea and sand!

Unlearn everything you know about social media… then start again… the more you give the #nostr the more it gives back to you… you find your communities and create your own lane… once it clicks… there is no going back… I find twitter very difficult to operate nowadays. Feels uncomfortable. Hope you give it the time, you will no regret it.

Hi Joe! Nice seeing you here!

I feel that Nostr becomes more meaningful and fun when you actually take time to engage with it, without the need to make something happen, like making something go viral. With the Global Feed, notes actually reach normies, but may not reach the “elites”.

Heyhey!!

Thank you. Yeah I’m tinkering with it and realising that it’s a great portal into the bitcoin community 🤙

See you next week 🍷