when a customer pays a merchant with lightning they have nearly perfect privacy from the merchant.
they do not know what utxo funded the payment.
they do not know transaction history.
wallets such as bull bitcoin and phoenix make it incredibly easy to move from onchain to lightning without running your own node or managing channels.
few appreciate this.
Idk..
I had 50k SATs "disappear" during transfer from "secure Bitcoin wallet" to "instant payments" wallet through the nostr:nprofile1qqsr70lh4keezkwy9s92zm2ncpyrh7l6647ly257n6fkfgcxws0t9ncpp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqprdmhxue69uhkummnw3ez6ur4vgh8xetdd9ek7mpwv3jhvv8qgp0 app. The claim retry failed multiple times and an app reset removed the option. They have work to do on the app and in support. Users shouldn't have to use telegram to get support.
Thanks for the heads up!
damn, i have had zero issues with bull and have used it extensively, i will ping their team
spoke to them, update will be released shortly to fix this bug
funds are not lost since swaps are not custodial, they will be recoverable with update
Hey man! We just closed a big round of clean ups on swaps over the weekend to iron out a lot of minor issues in swaps and it should be a much smoother experience going forward.
Unfortunately integrating support in the app hasn't taken priority since we are a small team and focussed on actual wallet features.
Support on Telegram is very prompt. Someone is always there to take care of you round the clock!
Swaps are non-custodial and funds won't be lost unless you lose your keys. Since you deleted your app the recovery is a bit more involved and you'll have to contact us on Telegram.
We have now added an explicit warning not to delete the app mid swap and in our December release we will have support for boltz's swap restore api, which will help in cases where users lose their phone or by accident delete the app mid swap - this flow requires boltz to share their public key. In a future release we will also have metadata backups which will allow recovery without boltz, where we will help you backup boltz's pubkey as well.
- how dumb to DELETE app or clear browser cache without saving keys/seed/backup externally
- telegram world scam heaven - only advance user can use it - bitches can cry all day for in telegram get 100X scammers conect them
I have the keys. Never said I didn't. The app was failing to retry claim so I deleted and restored. The retry claim function was not restored.
ok good 2 know
also RULE is any app which is SWAP HTLC DEX - there r many other config temp address keys generated which are VALID util swap is completed or REFUNDED - app maker not telling that clearly ahead - most users will no know it
I waited 5 days and it wasn't refunded
The version you were on had some issues and they've been fixed on the latest 6.3.4
You won't face those issues again.
Since you deleted the app though, all the swap data is also cleared from your device so you need to contact us so we can help you recover. If you prefer any other channel of comms, lmk, we can chat there and I'll help you recover it.
Agreed. I hate Telegram too bu its got network effect - moat of our early users/ beta testers were already on there, so we started there. We are going to expand into Matrix soon.
This is exactly why I love Lightning, fast, private, and so easy with wallets like Phoenix!
But both bullbitcoin and phoenix see exactly what you do. I would not call that privacy.
bull doesnt, phoenix does
Never used bull.., pls elaborate.
they use liquid and boltz swaps
there is a bit of a privacy leak on the electrum server side, but you can set your own, and privacy trust with boltz
open source, incredibly easy to use, decent default privacy guarantees
Bitcoin is the best privacy coin if used correctly
Therefore : STAY HUMBLE & SPEND SATS
Nice
be very weary of bullbitcoin
But if you do want to run your own node for self-custody, the open-source @Alby project makes it very easy, either in the cloud or on your own hardware with Alby Hub. ⚡️
Their mobile wallet, Alby Go, connects to your Hub for funding and makes payments as simple as possible.
Same with Wallet of Satoshi and Zeus. Amazing wallets apps out there now.
For now
True. That's the main reason for using Phoenix: clean, easy, and effective. All the magic happens under the hood. Perhaps the only drawback is the slightly higher fee when compared to other wallets.
Wallet
Of
Satoshi
So easy. Only carry in there what you’re willing to lose (like the old cash wallets in your back pocket). Spend/transfer your SATS.
Then live your life.
Everything else should be in cold cold storage.
There is also beauty in seeing your balance before you pay.
When was the last time we saw our balance before we paid.
This by itself is a huge paradigm shift from our norms.
Cash did
Do most customers care today?
Are they solving a true problem?
The merchant isn't the enemy. The surveilling rails, such as Phoenix, are. Use your own node, or share one with people you know! Privacy AND self-custody is what makes the bank.
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Nice
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If you would have really believed in what you are saying, you would never have funded monero shitcoiner like nostr:nprofile1qqs936kc97s4k4gqjnmltljgqns0uadh08d77t5mypg3anxkneks37gpzamhxue69uhkv6tvw3jhytnwdaehgu3wwa5kuegpz4mhxue69uhkummnw3ezumtfd3hh2tnvdakqx3v2gk.
Now don't tell me that it has some nice privacy features that bitcoin could use. Gay Ethereum has lot of features too but it doesn't mean that you start shilling products which are not BITCOIN ONLY.
Floppy is a Monero chad too so why are you promoting him?
Maybe stop throwing stones from your glass house
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I am promoting down fall of Calle....!!!
Read the post again.
it isnt about austisticly reeeing "Bitcoin only" and letting your brain rot.
Eth makes unacceptable centralization tradeoffs for their "features"
Monero doesn't.
See how this works ? There are ways to actually empirically measure what works for the freedom of users and what doesn't.
Use your brain.
Seth has done more to improve Bitcoin's Privacy, and ability to be used as a Medium of Exchange than you have Mr. Oblivion.
And with a username like that it sounds like you hate Bitcoin 🤔.
Wait so, if I haven't done anything meaningful for Bitcoin to become medium of exchange, I can't call out Monero shitcoiner?
The reason why you don't get the context of my username because you are monero sympathizer 😎
Again, Seth has done more to help Bitcoin adoption than you.
Most of the early Bitcoiners are Multi-coiners, and moved on from Bitcoin because they saw issues with it.
Bitcoin is a technology first, currency second, and commodity third.
If Bitcoin fails to catch up to its competitors in transmission of value then it will be replaced by technology/currencies that do it better.
When I started in Bitcoin it still had inflation bugs.
Funding Monero?
No he is funding wallet which is created by monero shiller and it's not bitcoin only wallet
CAKE WALLET
i am not funding cake wallet
do you have anything better to do than make up bullshit to get mad about?
He said you were funding Monero shit coiner "Seth for Privacy"
i am not doing that either lmfao
seth is a friend, and cake wallet is a great bitcoin wallet though
Thanks for clearing that up. Maybe some confusion.
Do you know how many weak Bitcoin wallets there are because of cake wallet?
Apologies for saying this without verification.
I will take the L but you have still been promoting cake wallet and monero shitcoiner nostr:nprofile1qqs936kc97s4k4gqjnmltljgqns0uadh08d77t5mypg3anxkneks37gpzamhxue69uhkv6tvw3jhytnwdaehgu3wwa5kuegpz4mhxue69uhkummnw3ezumtfd3hh2tnvdakqx3v2gk.
There is absolutely no reason to promote wallet which is NOT BITCOIN ONLY unless you are either bad actor or shitcoiner/shitcoiner on bitcoin (aka spammer).
But who funds him?
he runs an incredibly profitable business, cake wallet
this is my last response to this thread, cheers
https://milksad.info/posts/research-update-10/
"To summarize, the Cake Wallet cryptocurrency wallet software relied on a weak Pseudo Random Number Generator (PRNG) to generate Bitcoin wallets, which is a catastrophic design flaw."
"Looking for actual public usage, we found:
8757 unique weak main wallets
12999 unique sub-accounts (not counting change addresses)
13401 unique addresses (counting change addresses)
ca. 51600 transactions involving these addresses
About 548.9 BTC of funds have moved through them between 2020-11-30 and 2024-10-10."
“The software vendor publicly disclosed this vulnerability in May 2021, released a patched software version and asked users to urgently transfer their affected funds to different wallets. A large majority of users did so, but not all.”
Yes and because of that by the end of 2024 we had those statistics, meaning now there still are vulnerable wallets because things in Bitcoin are that inert.
the desire to try to get people fired / defunded over any bullshit you can pull out of your ass is major karen energy
cake is a solid open source bitcoin wallet
they have built a solid profitable business around it to make the wallet sustainable
consider doing something productive with your time
Where did I say to defund them?
You also said you / OpenSats don't fund them.
I did not like the way you promote them because they are not Bitcoin only and because they have had vulnerabitlity that led to many vulnerable Bitccoin wallet addresses.
That is why I shared this research so you see what you are actually promoting. Its of course your choice what to promote. Or fund.
its a five year old vulnerability that they ethically disclosed and fixed
you conveniently left that part out
It is. I did not left that part "About 548.9 BTC of funds have moved through them between 2020-11-30 and 2024-10-10.""
Also I put the link.
sounds like a bitcoin wallet that many people are using
seems relevant to have the guy building it on a bitcoin show
let the record show that my original post up above had absolutely zero mention of cake or monero
drama queen bullshit
Cake wallet .. nom nom nom what a delights ! Cake wallet treats BTC like the king it is, but with privacy twist that will make your heart race .
Man can store sats safe and zapping everyone world wide or receive via QR code and the address can refresh after each use , just like Changing your underwear after steamy night ! Think that..
Who gives a fuck?
Cake is one of the few wallets actually pushing privacy tech forward on Bitcoin while you're here bitching that it isn't pure enough. Get over it.
NO, you cannot see god unless your are PURE 😠 !!
Did you build a bitcoin only wallet with privacy features?
Why trust shit coiners with privacy? Why fund them?
Did you run a geyser.fund to fund your friends non existant bitcoin only wallet with privacy features?
Why complain actually doing things instead of YOU doing them yourself?
Shit coiners dont care about privacy. They care about selling shit coin tokens.
Considering its one of the first wallets to use silent payments on Bitcoin I would disagree. But if you really think thats the case dont use his wallet. If you cant resist swapping Bitcoin for tokens because there is a button there I suggest you keep well away.
I think lots of people can appreciate it.... but unfortunately few people can actually use it in a non-custodial fashion.
isn't the @Alby wallet just as good or better than bull bitcoin and phoenix? why not give @Alby a mention also? Especially considering @Alby browser extension since many shop from their desktop. Alby Go mobile wallet available also. Don't think you have as many options w bull or phoenix.
I just downloaded Bull Bitcoin wallet and it seems pretty good and solid.
I would expect to find more info about custodial/not-custodial aspects and LN fees during the onboarding, also wallet.bullbitcoin.com doesn't have much information.
Tor support would be a nice touch.
Hell yes. So many reasons to pay with Lightning ⚡️
If setting up a friend on phoenix, can you just send 10k SATs via lightning to them? I get error "fee is insufficient" (from my phoenix wallet)
I have tried larger amounts. I have plenty of funds in the wallet (outbound). Is there some way to increase the fee?
Anyone? I have searched plenty andwatchedBTCsessions vid. This should work?
