Downside of #OnlyZaps mode: sometimes you miss cool people to follow :(

Turned it off and saw a bunch of lurkers(likers?) who seem interesting.

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They can always set a #zap to 1 sat not a big deal I guess ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

Agreed unless the user is new and completely oblivious to LN, WoS, etcโ€ฆas nostr grows this may be the only issue and donโ€™t want new arrivals to get discouraged right out the gate.

We will teach them ๐Ÿ˜‰

Yup! But gotta find em first!

Whatโ€™s the incentive to zap though?

Well I just told the solution to those who are missing the โ€œlikeโ€ option ๐Ÿ˜

Well, likes are free. Zaps cost a non zero amount of money. Whatโ€™s the incentive to zap? Unless I just like throwing money around?

Iโ€™m fine without having a likes cause they are useless! Zaps will make the signal better on here vs noise ! Nostr doesnโ€™t have an algo so itโ€™s pointless to click that like button ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

Well Iโ€™m not talking about you, Iโ€™m talking about me

It has some use.

"I see your note and I'm glad you posted it"

a polite end of a conversation where everything was said

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Yes, so I will like it. What incentivizes me to zap it instead of like it?

Zap is a tip or "thanks". I think likes and zaps coexist well side by side.

Also with likes one has some sense how many people see the note. Helps with "shouting into the black digital void" effects for people with small nr of followers.

Sure, but I donโ€™t really care about u or ur followers. I care about me. Also, I think they have competing interests, with Damus allowing people to choose to create a zap monopoly

Yeah exactly. Also, people like me who dont have a lightning address because its way too custodial for now, rather want a neutral like instead of a reposting it.

So why did he like ur note instead of zap it?

Yep, likes are useful and reliable. I zapped some people with custom amount and it doesn't show onder the note for some reason. It is also more complex than one tap like and (obviously) you have to have funds in your wallet to zap. Not great for newbies.

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Some people cannot zap or dont wanna repost.

And donโ€™t want to pay for something that they can get for free

Likes are usefull for people to show a more private simple reaction to a poster.

I think the level of usefulness of zaps is overrated atm but is a great way to monetize the bitcoin maxis on this protocol

The incentive is to create incentive.

Same incentive as likes but more meaningful to the recipient, right?

Yes, but as a selfish human, why would I care about this? What incentivizes me to pay for something I could get for free?

Nobody is forcing you to pay! Just read the note and comment if you want

Maybe Iโ€™ll like it too

All Iโ€™m saying is that for new users, there doesnโ€™t seem to be an incentive to zap vs like

New users will understand whatโ€™s up ๐Ÿ˜‰

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Don't know what this means yet, but yes. I think you're on to something

Agreed.

Agree

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Good move

zaps are not a replacement for the likes

I realized that earlier, turned it off.

That was fast.

#onlyzaps gang defeted by common sense.

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I donโ€™t understand why there is such a push for this. Optionality, sure. But a like is just a head nod or a โ€œhey I read and appreciate your reply.โ€ If itโ€™s not feeding an algorithm I donโ€™t see the problem.

I get value for value. But we donโ€™t give people money in conversations in person, so why would we do it in a digital analog?

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Likes = thatโ€™s cool.

Zaps= I want to show my appreciation for โ€˜xโ€™.

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How do you filter content by zaps in Damus?

agree with keeping likes

Its too ubiquitous already. Jack is absolutely right on the likes topic but unless there is a general consensus across most major clients to fully kill it, there will be always be a lot missed and a lot of people who have no clue that their appreciation went completely unnoticed. That doesn't sound like the rich, engaging experience that nostr offers.

I think all you big devs need to have a risk/reward discussion on the subject and either rip the bandage off or leave it alone. ๐Ÿ˜‚

Yea, I will always use the Likes functionality. I don't really see a need for OnlyZaps.

How do I turn that on on Damus? The hand sign doesnโ€™t really do anything for me

If likes aren't influencing an algorithm, then why get rid of them? I like tons of things I don't spend money on out in the wild. Should be the same here.

Never said I was getting rid of them

Is that intentional though?