The "Nostr FUD" that I heard while in Riga came from people that were afraid to put in the work, IMO. The most confusing FUD was from a UX designer that told me Nostr wasn't ready for good UX design yet. Repeatedly. I'm not sure what he meant here. We're still building the tech and to focus on that? We don't have a large enough user base to waste time on it? Either way, I believe that we're at the perfect pivotal point for great UX. We need onboarding and an intuitive UX to entice the next wave of users. If we don't build it, they won't come.
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Nostr is very good as it is.
The crux of the issue will always be : how are we bringing more users here ?
I agree with “If we build great stuff, people will come.”
However it’s very hard to compete with other platforms giving monetary incentives to content creators.
Most people will come if/when their favorite creator comes here.
So along with a better UX, I think we need to spend more energy/money purple pilling people with big followings if we want nostr to keep growing.
i think we have the best monetary incentives. getting zapped means that you can get paid without having to meet any type of criteria on a platform. you don't have to have a certain amount of followers or reach activity metrics. you just create, post, and earn. 0 third parties is very powerful. the hindrance here is not everyone understands bitcoin.
That’s the best monetary incentives under certain circumstances, however in todays market, when you compare nostr vs the “big players”, there are huge roadblocks to bring more creators :
-Scale: just look at the size of the reach people get on YT, Twitter, Etc. And look at the size of the checks they get either directly from the platforms, or from their sponsors (who pay for exposure)
-Bitcoin: as you rightly pointed out, not many people understand Bitcoin, or want to deal with the hassle to juggle with any currency other than their home fiat currency. And I’m not even going into the technical aspect for creators to learn, understand and apply self custody… What should be a strength is currently a weakness, imho.
-Big tech reliance : as we’ve seen with Damus and a few Bitcoin apps getting hassled by Apple regarding zaps, there’s nothing guaranteeing us that Apple and friends won’t use any bullshit excuse to remove the main nostr clients from their store if/when they decide having a true free market of speech with zaps (where they can’t get a cut) isn’t good for them, or getting tapped on the shoulders by government because “there are too much wrongspeak on nostr”.
Sure, there will always be the option to use nostr with a web-based client, however that’s another thing that gets in the way of mass adoption.
I could go on but you get my point.
If we rely on organic growth, I don’t expect it to takeoff until 10+ years (unless we roll out tons of features much quicker than I think is possible, without sacrificing relays’ reliability).
But I’ll ever stay bullish nostr just for the fact that’s it’s a protocol that could save our lives if/when governments decide to definitely kill free speech on the mainstream platforms.
Nostr doesn't have the network effect yet, but all we need is one medium sized creator to announce that they're coming here so they don't have to deal with larger players for censorship issues or payment issues and all of their fans will follow.
#nostr will be ready for the moment and it will push us far beyond our expectations
La création de divers plateformes est possible sur nostr pour certains puissent s'y réfugier pour l'instant la plupart créé leurs propres outils ou apps nous nous menons vers le Monde du P2P via des Apps qui ne respecteront le droit à l'usage et recueil des donnés personnelles . Lisez bien les conditions d'utilisations
You've raised some valid points about the challenges Nostr faces in a competitive market. Scale and reach are undoubtedly hurdles, and the allure of major platforms and their financial incentives is hard to beat. Bitcoin's complexity and self-custody requirements can deter potential users, and big tech's control over app stores adds another layer of uncertainty.Your long-term optimism for Nostr, driven by its potential to protect free speech, is commendable. While organic growth may be slow, the importance of having alternative platforms like Nostr for safeguarding open discourse cannot be overstated. Here's to hoping for a future where it fulfills its potential as a bastion of free expression. 🚀🗣️ #NostrFuture #FreeSpeechMatters
Bien argumenté ce point de vue à prendre compte avec tous les points peu explicités qui sont nos réalités
Est-ce que ce zap ne semble être l'attrait infine pour nostr lorsque je lis des notes ou des post d'images, j'ai le sentiment qu'il y a l'idée de gagner des sats à n'importe quel prix en plus d'être adulé et c'est dingue quand même qu'on ne puisse le relayer alors que c'est Faceb Threads cela fait le buzz sur nostr
I would agree with that. Lot of the big names refuse to join Nostr because they don’t have a following.
They are unwilling to make the short term investment to post here even though in the long run it’s the right move. They could get rugged by X at any minute and BAM 💥 following gone.
Ever think that those who are reluctant or critical of Nostr shouldn’t come? Perhaps it’s better if those who are looking for a traditional social network experience (social media types, rather than social network types) stay away. Do we want baby pics and pre-school “graduation” posts? Do we want mediocrity to be heralded and rewarded as “good content”? I’m not asserting, just putting forth things I ponder regarding #nostr
I want all content on nostr, not just bitcoin, nostr, and technical content. I already have a couple friends that post personal photos here. I want more of this on nostr because my Nostriches are my family.
From what I see here, Nostr can be the true “everything” protocol. I also want to see content of all kinds flow in to us
Mais complètement fou, puisque nous nous devons d'être déconnectés de la virtualité afin d'être confrontés à nos propres urgences
So very much this. Not so much the "family" thing, but I want the human connection and kindness.
I can get tech info plenty of places.
I want to see your cool forest photos, or hear about your cool new game design.
That's a wonderful sentiment! Building a sense of community and sharing personal moments on Nostr can make it even more special. It's not just about the technology or crypto discussions; it's about connecting with your Nostrich family on a personal level. Here's to more personal and heartfelt content on Nostr that strengthens those bonds even further! 📸🤗 #NostrCommunity #NostrFamily
Unfortunately, your family of #bitcoiners and #nostriches and #techs either bully or alienate ir even harrass #nonbitcoiners or those who don't adhere to bitcoin-worship, techspeak or nostr-worship like yours truly and to even deny it is so in-your-face hipocrisy
I can tolerate a couple of notes on #bitcoin, nostr and tech but to be compelled, bullied, or even harrassed to worship #btc and nostr and to delete X and other socmeds are totally not my vibe, and I'm also aware of #NOSTR being no different from other centralized protocols adhering to the worship-thee-gods mentality like if you're not popular, you don't get any decent interactions, dead end
Why don't some #nostriches stay?
I mean, like one shouldn't a wee bit impose on an #NSFW poster to just abandon #Bluesky or the nonbitcoiners, non-techs, seniors, influencers, cosplayers etc to delete #X or a #GenZ or #anime or #cosplayer to stfu and talk bitcoin or nostr or tech only, or else . . . ?
I myself find it difficult to just blabber on here about non-bitcoin or non-nostr or non-tech yadadash as Karens and Kens (mostly Kens) proliferate like termites on here. Yes, termites - that what eats up your house if not controlled
Nostriches care to disagree?
Or nostriches too scared to blurt out the truth and be branded as a coño or a gringo with an unpopular opinion?
Who cares anymore?
I want my time to be spent wisely by being happy where I spend it on, and seeing Kens blabbering about bitcoin this and nostr that, tech this or tech that, like 🙉 🙉 🙉 🙉 🙉 !!! I'd much rather shitpost on 4chan boards, #reddit #quora #X etc where topics are as infinite as the stars in the galaxy
If bitcoin or tech or nostr runs your life, how tf are you still enjoying your life?
Disclaimer: all the you's on this note are not to single you out in any way, shape or fishy form. That's for all the you's out there
Some big facts here. People don't like non bitcoiners around here
Like hugely obvious, all caps
That's just not true. The majority of Nostriches are kind and loving people. Don't use Bitcoin? That's fine. The only exception here would be if you're a Shitcoin scammer. No one likes scammers and charlatans.
My real life experiences represent some outliers. There are a lot of friendly people here though
Just because you're popular on here does not mean I won't disagree with you, and most, if not all, will not even post anything against your note - that's another truth
Not a fan of ass-licking
It insults my intelligence
Neither am I a fan of posting other people's notes to prove my point, but turning a blind eye won't resolve issues. What I blurted out wasn't even meant as a constructive criticism, but a plain observation and you being up there in the ranks just shruggung it off emits a clear signal
Thank you for your unbiased opinion
Don't be a stranger though
I'm not your enemy
Unless you choose me to be
Moi de même mais en bonne intelligence j'essaie de côtoyer ceux-là afin de comprendre leurs maux qu'aucun protocole où plateformes ne peut résoudre ( cette souffrance mérite une prise en charge mais ils l'ignorent tant qu'ils sont complimentés)
Pourtant il en existe sur nostr vérifiez sur les DM qui sont publics c'est chacun pour soi dans le monde de la cryptomonnaie
my reply has a content warning, like auto-audited? because of ...
not a fan of that, either
Because you added the NSFW hashtag. Amethyst auto adds the content warning. I really like this feature.
I know, that's why I put it out as ....
I get it, so without a hashtag, it won't have a content warning. Learning curve, thanxxx
Mighty brilliant of nostr:npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z
Thankfully you're free to talk about whatever you want to on Nostr and follow whomever you want to follow. We also have a mute button too. Use it accordingly if someone is a dick.
Again, I want to grow Nostr beyond our bubble or echo chamber and reach other topics of interest. That's the whole point of the #grownostr tag!
not a fan of muting
Dicks are everywhere
I say things the way the are, when asked or prompted
I even unfollowed nostr:npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m when he posted a single punctuation mark without any clue, like what Elon does on X but I never once followed Elon
It's not about following or muting, it's about the culture that's being built up on here. Whatever culture it acquires is what everyone outside of #NOSTR will picture it to be, and the kind of character it grows out to be
I for one love the culture. I hugged so many Nostriches and felt so much love this past weekend. I wouldn't change a thing. 🤙🏻🫂💜
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get his ass
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c'est un point mdr
J'avais bien compris du coup selon moi signifie la fin de l'échange ou un consentement qui ne dit rien consent rappelons -nous. Merci nostr:npub1gaksd4tlqe42n86y60vllylty8kd0jxss8d0y9jtuygs60ldqhkq8wz0pk
As a person of integrity, you have a duty towards your followers, so if you post irresponsibly and not man up to it, that says volumes about your character
If you post brainlessly, you'd have disrespected your audience by wasting their time, and not having learned a good thing from you
I do not deserve any follower if I myself have not grown up to do right by them, and not own up to my carelessness. Freedom and power, if exercised without a sense of responsibility, can, and will ruin lives
So, will it be freedom or ego?
You may post anything you like, but ask yourself,
"was it necessary?
was it the truth?
have you made your father proud?
Or have you just shamed your entire clan?"
If your ego answers and not your heart, you got work to do
Exactly!
The power of the .
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It is actually really funny. « . » Since jack came out of Twitter much more fun to follow!
Bottom line.
We #grownostr.
We Ignore the noise.
Enjoy the ride to the new age of information that only NOSTR provides. 🫂🫡
Sachez qu'à même Derek user de mute comme dans tant de plateformes ne résout pas un problème, il vaut mieux laisser ouvert pour mieux identifier et recadrer les problématiques que les autres plateformes ont dû rencontrées , puis le protocole est évolutif il y aura d'autres plateformes qui pourront s'y créer donc tentons de point rejeter les autres qui ont rencontré ces problématiques, construisons au regard de leurs expériences
I am part of the “family of bitcoiners” and I have never mistreated you. In fact, I’m glad you are here.
🫂
Appreciate much 🫂
Though I'm not the one being mistreated by whomever
But I see things that are visible to the naked eye and feel those that aren't
This is one drum I will beat as long as I'm on nostr: Outsiders hear crypto and think scam and only scam. It does not matter if it is bitcoin, shitcoin, or general cryptography. So how do you easily dismiss them and not actually address their concerns, legitimate or unfounded? Just buzzwords like FUD. It's simple and you get to rally those that agree with you. Sadly, I think that if this "dismiss the non-believer" attitude is so prevalent amongst the most popular users, that nostr will lose any momentum it may currently have and relegate it to a super niche platform. And I do mean platform because that's how I and I would assume a fair few not-bitcoiners/developers see it and not a protocol.
There's nothing wrong with giving and brief explanation and then moving on if they don't carez don't get it, or don't want to know more. I truly believe people will slowly get orange pilled through osmosis as they become purple pilled. There's not need to be pushy. Nostr will just bring it about because it's natural. If you can understand fuck you social, you'll eventually understand fuck you money.
Honto niiii
*Kazuma Kiryu iz tha shaite!!!!
God dammit! Now I have that naisily voice clip stuck in my head!
• Bitcoiners built and have been trying to solve the problem that Nostr solves for a long time. Seems to make perfect sense that this would be the first community to populate it… since they built it. 🤷🏻♂️
• I for one have not witnessed any degree of bullying non-bitcoiners up here. Not sure where you have experienced this problem. 🤔
Not a fan of naming names nor of reposting notes that I don't agree with but it doesn't mean I'm blind to facts. If you don't see them, it doesn't mean they're non-existent
I'm not in the habit of post-shaming people either though in speaking the truth, I know I've offended some sensitive souls but I speak the truth as I see it. People can always condemn me but as the Buddha says, the 3 things that cannot be long hidden are the sun, the moon, and the truth
And you, or anyone else, are free to contradict my version of the truth
#NOSTR is what we make it to be
Tout à fait d'accord sinon on nous prendrait pour des denonciateurs
He's just playing the victim, classic bully tactic, hoping we'll be apologetic for GFY shitcoiner!
Elle existe sur nostr on essaie par grandeur d'esprit d'user de grandeur ou d'état esprit pour mieux cerner certains types de personnalités qui peuvent détruire ce protocole qu'ils disent aimer
There's a mute button for you if you want it.
Bullies calling others bullies is a classic bully tactic. It's called playing the victim. I suppose you think it's fine that women are "bullying" self mutilating "sportswomen" too. Or christians being upset about satanists organising clubs at schools, or teachers grooming kids to get their tits cut off.
Tous ceux qui usent d'un type de rejets ont des oeillères et ne résoudront de problèmes identifiables
all facts. I’m glad you shared this. This is so much appreciated
Same
Hell yes. More content diversity. I suppose I should help.
I have posted pics of my kids on here, which I would never have done on twitter. Feels like a safe and friendly place, and long may it remain so 💜🫂😊
Yes perhaps this is what I mean, but I mean in a less narcissistic fashion. I admit I do get a bit dimmed by constant BTC and Nostr-related content.
Non pas du tout me concernant j'ai une sainte horreur de ce type de process trop personnels
couldn't aggree more. 👍
Hi. I have a technical problem. When I click on the follow tab it seems to work but then nobody I followed show up in my list of followers and if I go back to someone I clicked follow, the link shows follow again, like I’m not following them. Any advice? Thank you.
Oui ça a commencé depuis quelques temps même pour les commentaires comme si la personne a défini qui répond ou qui le suit et cela n'existait pas avant ...c'est comme si certains reproduisent la même chose que sur Twitter avec des communautés
It's fantastic to hear your perspective on addressing Nostr FUD and emphasizing the importance of user experience (UX) design! Indeed, the early stages of technology development are a crucial time to lay the foundation for a user-friendly platform.
Your vision for focusing on UX, onboarding, and creating an intuitive experience is spot on. As you rightly said, great UX can be a powerful magnet for the next wave of users. Building a platform that's accessible and enjoyable to use is essential for growth and adoption.
Keep pushing forward with your commitment to improving the Nostr user experience. It's a vital step in ensuring that as the platform evolves, it becomes more inviting to a broader audience. 💪🚀 #NostrUX #UserExperienceMatters
That's an absurd statement and I don't get how someone actually unwraps that in their head and doesn't reach the same conclusion... What does "not ready for good UX" even mean? If he was saying it doesn't *have* good UX yet, then ok, but it suggests that this is exactly what we should focus on. But "not ready for"? What would qualify something that *was* "ready for" better design?
If a door that only opens inward so that you should pull the handle, was implemented with a push bar instead, thus intuitively making ever poor sap who uses it push first... at what point is the door "ready" to have that problem fixed? How long do we have to wait before the door is mature enough to allow us to fix a problem?😂
i told him if he was a UX designer then he should build on nostr to make it better and he kept saying it's not ready and shaking his head. He was British. Do we need a translator? nostr:npub1lr2zzf989mvf393y0tv39ara6a4vddkd6y87z784up9vl6ks6j3qtudl6a please assist!
I dare say what he was trying to say is that he wasn’t ready lol
its pretty easy to use these days
It is extremely difficult for a new person to come to Nostr and know what to do to get started.
Which ACTIVE accounts to follow.
Which hash tags to use to be seen.
#plebchain
#introductions (few nostr people respond to this.. and not as helpful as it could be..few follow and follow up support.
#zap Which wallet to set up and how exciting this is.
#zapathon When explained this makes new people excited usually. But few get that far.
#coffeechain And the GM, GN friendly culture here.
Adding a few more relays is helpful.
Getting people onto a nest 🪺 nest ASAP! This is an extremely under used tool. Even Nostr people don’t use enough.. do you still have to have 3 to start a nest? This is a critical failure. Bots could start I know, people will recognize bots and leave or see and never join. Real Nostr people will go into rooms with other real people.
nostr:npub18ams6ewn5aj2n3wt2qawzglx9mr4nzksxhvrdc4gzrecw7n5tvjqctp424
Nests don't get announced until 3 people join.
Yes sir. I know, I am just suggesting that this makes it a lot more work for people to open a nest.
I realize it is to keep bots from opening.
But if there are 20 nests open for example (usually only zero to 3) people can pick a real person they want to talk to.
Also it might be better for a nest to be DISCOVERABLE here: nostr:npub1us9uc0sjjg0vyvh7vefgu2a96hx5up5gujl6pqays65hlk4de6hsnwq4g0
With only one person nesting.
VS
Being announced.
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Maybe keep the “announced” part the same.. when 3+ people are in a nest.
The way it is currently unless someone sends a note or a DM nobody knows someone is trying to start a nest.
#plebchain
I've been on and off Nostr since early this year and I have no clue what a nest is.
Most don’t. It’s one of the absolute best features of Nostr.
Search under: Nest
You will see a place that shows available nests.. usually zero active nests but get two more people at the exact same time and you can enjoy it as well.
I can explain more later. When I have more time.
Explaining that Value4Value is the key, is lost on so many who want garbage to be fed to them through all means…they simply cannot make the connection….that Easy Button trained them. 
It's hard because we've been beat to death over the past decade or more to have things spoon fed to us. We just need time to undo some damage.
I was as guilty as the next until my 8th suspension on FB….that’s when I looked deeper and followed the tech. It was time for #Nostr, it just hadn’t been created yet. But I promise this…YOU DON’T miss the others…The real FOMO is Nostr and the beautiful souls here. Every Morning, #CoffeeChain #Weedstr and #PlebChain 💜🫶🏻💜🧡🫂🧡 and I feel the love! #Bitcoin is the Way!
I totally agree with what you two are saying. I also believe that users will mature more and more into the concept of value 4 value. 
the user must feel pain before they can know pleasure - that UX designer probably
Maybe. We already have a lot of pain points. Dude wants us to suffer 🤣
It's important to identify and prove out problems wherever we find them. Only by highlighting them can we bring attention where developers/designers/artists can win glory.
Absolutely.
Classic Fiat Behavior is wanting everything "Handed to Them and doing none of the Hard Work". It tends to roll into UX/UI.
But the thing is, this entire "so called UX/UI discipline didn't exist pre 2000". I mean I rolled my eyes at it, but you could spend an entire career just doing typography or color theory if you wanted to at Ogilvy or IDEO, really modern UX/UI in my humble opinion isn't much further than that. Its just Good Design, and
Good Design is a Simple Extension of the Art world, with precision.
The whole fussy frontend behavior I find disgusting. Its become even more common place post 2008 iPhone era, unless you grew up in the era of Green screen or Black and White text.
I mean this was GOOD UX/UI back in the day and still is for us developers who are backend.
And it STILL IS. Tell'm to get over themselves!
P.S. We backend devs can design. We just choose not to be snobbish fools about it. *wink wink*
DAMN STRAIGHT.
Yes look at the UX on yakihonne and the tweetdeck clone