Less than 1% of Americans are violent criminals.
Jail them for life or execute them and we can all live in peace.
Simple.
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The easiest solution is more gun carriers that are willing to shoot bad guys.
I think there should like remote islands were criminals were just dropped without any change to get out.
Wish it was that simple but the political criminals are much more responsible for the disruption of peace for the average person then the violent criminals are.
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Totally agree with you.
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The state shouldn't have the right to kill.
I get it but thatβs literally the only purpose of the state. To hold the monopoly on violence.
Indeed, so we must check that power to the best of our ability else we are ruled by the violence rather than ruling the violence.
Yes taxation is theft at the arm of violence et al
We will always be ruled by violence in one way shape or form. Violence is the supreme authority.
I get it, but I would rather say that violence is authority at last resort. Supreme authority does not need violence to rule.
Agree, but it can have the obligation
Its obligation comes at the expense of the people. One's capacity for violence is never removed even under statehood, its differed. So thinking that an individual's life is worth less than that of society and that society is obliged to infringe on the individual if the individual has already wronged is not morally justified. Exclusion is still an option that I would prefer to full violence.
IMHO is just bullshit signaling virtue Who pays for the exclusion? You think itβs moral to pay 150$/day for a criminal when children around the world work months to have them ? Is that a moral society ?
Why use tax money to pay for them in jail? Bring back public hangings.
So thatβs 3.4 million executions or one big-ass prison. Sounds like a catchy campaign slogan.
Worked in the 90βs
fix the money fix 99 percent of that 1 percent. put the rest into jail
Can we also execute those that enable hiding of child rapists?
"Every Republican on the House Rules Committee voted to block the Epstein Files Transparency Act from advancing."
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Except those who get to pick who is jailed or executed have livelyhoods dependent on the violence continuing.
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it," -Upton Sinclair
Moreover without anyone to point fear at, ie "elect me to keep you save" we would realize the political class are just leaches and they would be not want them, or at least not the "I bring you safety" ones and they would be done too. A person will follow their incentives and the politicians tell the police what to do and police pick who to arrest and the judges choose who to punish and they all depend upon violence and crime not stopping.
Expecting a more aggressive state to bring peace is like expecting Catholic nun schoolmaster to no slap people with rulers. They'll just move the level or offense that warrants slapping down.
Is a meme not called "violence" in the UK today by those executing the new laws??
the math doesnβt check out.
Hereβs the numbers.
According to the FBIβs Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program, in 2022 there were about 380,000 arrests for violent crimes (murder, rape, robbery, aggravated assault).
β’ The U.S. population is about 333 million.
β’ That works out to roughly 0.11% of the population arrested for a violent crime in a given year.
The Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) reports that about 60% of state prisoners are serving time for violent offenses.
β’ In 2022, there were around 1.2 million people in state and federal prisons.
β’ That means about 700,000β750,000 people are imprisoned for violent crimes.
β’ As a share of the total U.S. population, thatβs roughly 0.2%.
OK, but if you kill off one percent of the population, there will still be 100% of the population left.
That assumes 0 repeat offenders.
Don't forget about the illegals
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Most societies maintain safety through a mix of prevention, rehabilitation, and reasonable punishment. Executing or imprisoning all violent criminals for life is not only unethical, but it also creates huge social and human problems.
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I truly donβt believe the death penalty is the right solution.
Itβs a part of the solution, because you canβt rehab violent psychopaths
Ancient solutions to problems that were embedded in our ancestors' cultures that have now been analyzed into discrete concepts that, by themselves, make us uncomfortable to the point of silence should be reconsidered for the reason that they make us uncomfortable alone.
Violent criminals are just a treat to your average citizen, they also create havoc and add to their victim pool while in prison. Someone who has proven their willingness to take a human life have proven they donβt value their own. Enforcing existing laws would do a lot of good.
Agreed, strict enforcement of laws is essential to keep society safe.
Think thereβs more democrats than that , but yes
One better and more based as your idea still gives away responsibility. No jails, no police - we all exercise our Divine Right as a community for Self-Defense (carry whatever the fuck we want for protection) and then send the murderer back into the community and the let the community take the action. This is a society not giving away responsibility.
do bitcoin full time larpers actually work a real job anymore?
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This is the one use for my tax dollars that I am 100% ok with. Jailing them for life. Although I think chain gangs should make a comeback too. Put them to work cleaning up our cities
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agreed... including the .01% of that 1% that run this place.
Is killing people really necessary? Would a choice between slavery and death by starvation do?
Make the criminals work on something and then don't give them food unless they produce.
I do not know what that something could be. Maybe start from diggind ditches chained to a irom ball and then if they behave they could get a better job.
They would never become free but they could get better jobs and food. Not working at all would result in no food.
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we donβt kill people. thatβs what Iβm saying
jail, yes. but we need to fix it
Who is going to pay for sustaining people in jails?
Capital punishment is not only necessary, but morally justified.
You mean: financially justified?
I meant what I said
Sure. I just would like to understand if you mean "morally justified BECAUSE society should not have to pay for this" (to focus on other matter for instance) or if you put aside two uncorrelated ideas.
Giving people what they deserve (justice) the moral thing to do.
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i donβt agree. thatβs not the solution
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I concur
It has always been the solution, it's just a power you can't POSSIBLY trust government with. SO basically as long as the first violent criminals that are killed off are government criminals, it might work...
Maybe, but I'm prone to think that putting a bandage over the wound isn't addressing the root issues. Simply bandaging over the would allows the wound to fester. It has to get cleaned out entirely to avoid infection.
What are the root issues?
I could list a number of them, but ultimately they all seem to boil down to the same thing: ego.
When an honest man finds himself to be mistaken, he either ceases to be mistaken or he ceases to be honest. There are no other choices.
You're a Bitcoiner. You've probably watched The Big Short over a hundred times like we all have. Why do we do that?
Because the world is full of people who are full of shit and asleep at the wheel, masquerading as informed and competent and watching The Big Short is an entertaining reminder that falling for the bandwagon logical fallacy or the appeal to authority logical fallacy gets you rekt.
Fallacies are lies. Government and religious schools don't teach their future economic cattle discernment subjects like logical fallacies. They teach students what to think, not how to think.
The world is full of people who struggle to identify lies as lies due to lack of discernment. These same people project their own shortcomings onto everyone else because that's easier than acknowledging the proof of work of others. The ego doesn't like to acknowledge that others have done better so it resorts to self-deception...more lies.
When people learn how to be honest, we will be much closer to peace, however psychopaths are still a wellspring of chaos that will require ongoing vigilance so no matter what solutions are offered, this is an infinite game. Old players die out and new players are born and some percentage of those will be psychopaths.
Ultimately, a global standard of sound money coupled with a perspective that unites many competing religious and esoteric traditions, through science, can still a lot of the strife. Both domino chains are already in motion. How far each goes is up to us.
I stopped reading after a few words, when I realized you were making a retarded metaphor. Do you have a real sentence or two to explain why killing violent criminals is bad, or why I should pay for court and prison (repeatedly) for violent criminals?
Think of crime as noise distorting the signal of societal progress.
1. I'm not saying that we shouldn't remove distortions.
2. I am saying that distortions will naturally reoccur so even if some broad sweeping measure is attempted and is successful, that doesn't stop new psychopaths from being born.
3. The underlying cause could be described in many words but most of them lead back to ego. When people learn how to keep the ego in check, we will have less dishonesty. That'll help a lot. There's a great paucity of honesty on this planet, including intellectual dishonesty.
4. Given that many Bitcoiners are wealthy enough to afford to homeschool, it also seemed like a good opportunity to point out that religious and government schools don't give students robust discernment and that is intentional. Not only is that a major hurdle for us to overcome if we are to change the world, it is something we must guard against propagating to the next generation.
5. I always have a firearm within arm's reach and that's just what's within arm's reach. I recommend everyone else do the same. Power is a virtue. Having the power to overcome an attacker is a virtue. The question is, once you've overpowered your attacker, do you balance out your power with mercy?
Frankly, I can't condone the death penalty but I have no problem with banishment or even "banishment packs" of nations or territories who afford one another reciprocity when a banishment has been issued.
You don't have to kill. You don't have to interact with them at all. You can ship them to some remote as fuck area and say "Good fuckin luck. Ain't nobody around for 500 miles in any direction. Nobody wants you so you can be here now because this place sucks and nobody wants to be here."
kinda unexpected to see an Argentine meme starting to take root in US circles (reddit, twitter, nostr)
Each time someone killed another person to rob them a group of people both in person with the media and online called to "kill them all"
this was later memized into a simple "Bala" (shout them) or the more simple image of a bullet, magazine or someone reloading a handgun.
Does that include all the armed forces and their masters executing kids overseas?