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Why do it?

Network stress test? If it mattered then thatโ€™s not a good sign

Why not

centralized

I meant, why not do it?

Test it

unsurprising. that's why you use multiple relays.

Gotcha ๐Ÿค Could you disconnect it without permanuking? If it *were* bad, better not to punish normies?

๐Ÿ™Œ #Justdoit โœ…

can I export my bookmarks? will those get be impacted?

Bookmarks on Damus are local currently

yes. I want to export them, ie replicate them to my relay, in the event they are only hosted on the damus relay and will wipes it

Currently they are only on your local device is my understanding. Your bookmarks are not stored on any relay. Damus has yet to add nip-51 support for bookmarks.

I understand the bookmarks are stored locally. my concern is if those are somehow refreshed/reloaded, and the only copy was on the damus relay, they would be gone.

Valid point, ser ๐Ÿ“

will do the poor mans backup for manually clicking โ€œbroadcastโ€ on each bookmark, so it gets replicated to my relay

hm, is there any command for strfry to delete, say, half-year old notes?

+1

It turns out that such a command exists. For example

strfry delete --age 43200 --filter '{"kinds":[1]}'

Are there users that *only* use the damus relay?

I hope not. This would be a good test and reality check maybe

I primarily use damus but only bc it is the iOS ๐Ÿ

Nuke away

Make a copy and do it

Go for it! One other question thoโ€ฆ

Could t be an option in clients to turn on and off delete note events? Making deleted notes visible?

Why can a dude delete shitty comments he made then pretend he wasnโ€™t being a complete ass?

better sooner than later imo

Verdade!

Do it.

Alfred: โ€œSome people just want to watch the world burn.โ€

If you dont run your own relay, SOL. ๐Ÿค™

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Do it

Just do it๐Ÿค™

Whats the total storage size now? Maybe back up the oldest notes? ๐Ÿฅฒ

#nukestr

Oo exciting ๐Ÿ˜ณ๐Ÿ”ฅ

yes, if you could nuke all my typos too thatโ€™d be swell

Tpyos are firever

Here for this ๐Ÿ˜‚

I was thinking about this last night and the year itโ€™s been, I wish there was a site where it could temporarily be archived, so it could be searchable for research and downloadable

yes, nuke it

Go, there are plenty of relays holding the data ๐Ÿ‘

I'm still waiting for the first 10K Damus relay user badge ๐Ÿ”ฅ

#YESTR

Can somebody explain whats all about o going on. See a lot about nuking but dont 100% understand what will/could happen and what is meant bei that. That english isnt my native language doesnt make it better. What will it affect, will i recognaize it as a non tech guy, Do i have to make a New Account or loose follows/followers etc ?

You're using 18 more relays, you're good๐Ÿ‘

Use https://nostrsync.live/

Backup, download, update, restore all your data from all the relays.

Cool. Would be nice to be able to add custom relays to the export, or is that already supported?

Do it if you see a point in doing so. Just give everyone a good heads up first. ^^ nostr notes and an extra notification at least in the damus app

Two weeks notice maybe?

Why would people need that. I hope people arenโ€™t solely relying on the damus relay for their stuff

I hope so to! But we don't know ๐Ÿคท

It being one of the largest relays, I just thought there could be a point to it.

Alt. just do it and let people learn the hard way x) But, some sort of heads up I think is better for relay reputation.

If you're using a free relay, I think it is to be expected to have no expectations on what happens to your notes

Yes I buy that argument, it's solid. We just don't know how many Damus users use nostr as if it's a twitter, and a normie user might think it works the same; then one day wake up with all notes gone. Then think, "naw bad quality service."

Due to Damus being one of the largest onboarding to nostr, and it being one of the largest relays; I think at least on the first data purge a notification could be prudent.

The notification could even mention; "On free relays beware data may be purged, here's a backup option, and remember to post to more than one relay. The Damus relay, is purged next week on xDay. Expect no notifications in the future."

nostr.band says I have 2901 posts so Iโ€™ll be watching to see how much gets lost ๐Ÿ˜€

I assume they are also storing your notes if they have a count ?

nostr:npub1xdtducdnjerex88gkg2qk2atsdlqsyxqaag4h05jmcpyspqt30wscmntxy ๐Ÿ‘€

We do store it

Maybe, I donโ€™t know if they do!

There were notes harmed in the making of this note

Maybe give a window for users to download notes? 7 days? Idk just thinking mostly about users who have only ever used Damus with the default 4 relays it comes configured with and donโ€™t understand this part of nostr yet, or how to backup their data.

just an idea at this point

It's an important thing for users to consider. Some lessons are learned the hard way ๐Ÿ˜‚

Do it. #nostr stress test.

nuke it!๐Ÿ‘

Do it! Don't warn anyone. It's an important lesson. More crying means more learning.

there's truth to this

Catholic education donโ€™t lie! ๐Ÿ˜‚

Build a relay that offloads the notes in a S3 type of bucket for vertical/horizontal scaling. It's just querying json data on the fly, no?

Might help with bandwidth too as it'd be static for egress and maybe even faster data query? Could use rumbledb.org

strfry is faster than any adhoc solution you throw together. Its faster than static reads

If we die, we die.

Ok!

You can start with nuking the oldest notes.

By some you mean all?

yes

make a compressed file(s) of the notes to share before you nuke it.

I am

Thanks for all your service to this community. We don't know what we don't know, and who knows how your contributions will effect future generations.

How about a rolling delete ?

With nostrdb it would be cool if Damus could backup all your notes locally similar to https://nostrsync.live/ that way normal people who wonโ€™t run their own relays still have their content protected and the ability to rebroadcast everything.

Now youโ€™re thinking ๐Ÿ™‚

Yes.