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It just
.doesn’t make sense.

Empty action.

It’s just some nicotine gum to help the addicts get themselves cured along the way

How dare you presume I have a problem?

I would never
 👀

If someone wants the choice to switch between only zaps and shakas, they would be able to toggle and see likes, then disable again.

More choice is good

Replace likes with 0 sat zaps

I agree 


🙈

Only argument I heard that made sense to me:

- people like using it to follow other people who also liked the post

True. Fair consideration. Powerful network effect

I think it’s great that you give people the option to choose which one they want, another good aspect of the freedom you get on nostr!

Yeah for people who use likes this way I feel like it just took away a feature needlessly. As an #OnlyZaps user it doesn’t affect me anyways so I don’t mind re-enabling it. I am still concerned about when new users like without knowing what the zap icon means next to their name. They might be angered when they learn their likes weren’t getting through.

I like the way you said this! I love the #onlyzaps feature but really don’t care if someone else doesn’t want to use it. It’s not that big of a deal honestly, but seeing your perspective on it from a new user side really is interesting.

Maybe it will help them realize likes are for the liker and not the liked.

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Likeception

Who keeps complaining about OnlyZapsâ„ąïž? Likes are printed out of thin air, say no more. It’s fiat!!

Even the argument that it is important for discovery of “like minded” (pun maybe intended) people to follow is a stretch. The author of the note should be able to determine how they want to engage and be able to be transparent about not wanting the likes.

The argument that was given that I had a hard time refuting was: if we don’t do it for blocks (muting instead) why do it for likes? OnlyZaps was like blocking for likes. I do want to remain somewhat logically consistent in the way I apply these types of restrictions.

Is blocks implementable on #nostr?

Say you have client A that implements blocking, and client B that doesn’t.

Have any clients implemented blocking not just by name (not muting)?

i'll be honest personally i really like the đŸ€™ a lot and was a bit surprised at first that people here didn't use it that much - but maybe #onlyzaps is the way forward for this platform - possibly set it as default on / opt out for clients (not sure yet if this would be wise) ... any opinions from the #plebchain ?

Re-note, quote-note, comment, zap all help with this job-to-be-done. This is not exclusive to like

I still like engaging with notes that I may not want to zap. I don’t think of it as superficial, but rather as tiered engagement depending on the content.

Sometimes using a Shaka to acknowledge a conversation’s fourth or fifth comment/reply, is the right way to say “I saw your reply of ‘thank you’ but don’t need to reply ‘you’re welcome’ “

Indeed. And for the people that want to receive that from you, they can do so! For those that don’t, they don’t need to see it! And won’t anyway!

What do people really even want anyway?

Nobody knows

Well this is a throwback

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I get more satisfaction from a shaka comment than a shaka "like"

#[4]​ has been giving đŸ«‚'s for months now, and they mean a lot more than if he gave us a like

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ummm sorry... what is that?

Jedi ?

Just do what you want.. all this on what to fit into.. 🙃

đŸ™đŸŒ»

Exactly. I appreciate the optionality.

And I seriously appreciate the little âšĄïž next to all of our names & nip05s. Just noticed that - a nice touch, Will đŸ€™

Noob here. Can anyone show me how to get the zaps going?

Download #[5]​ and copy your email-address style Lightning address. Then paste it into your profile’s field for Lightning address âšĄïžđŸ€™

What if likes are only there for comments on a note?

Its encouraging people to give their money into posts capitalizing it for individuals who are deemed “influential” and keeping it within a system that can use to silence those who do not wish to give into the system by eliminating ways for people to engage. This therefore creates a funnel preventing engagement for new users and that could be used to collude against users where individuals that build the “decentralized ecosystem”. It feels like a loot box to me but maybe I’m thinking about it the wrong way

Indeed the wrong way. Likes are not real engagement, they’re a data collection mechanism to influence the algorithms ability to serve you content.

Only zaps actually incentivizes new users to engage in a meaningful way, rather than simply consume content. By becoming engaged, their thoughts and ideas are then contributed to the greater discussion.

This honest engagement allows their comments to be zapped, encouraging them to continue to participate. It also funds their ability to zap others they find valuable.

Influencers are often “ratioed” in todays world. But such happenings actually continue to boost their signal and influence, even though it was deemed negative or false by the community.

In an only zaps world, influencers are incentivized to continually provide real value to collect zaps, as opposed to farm valueless likes for the algorithms to continue to propagate their popularity.

At that point we end up subjugating “value” in a denomination and that denomination becomes the algorithm. Regardless of the propagation of their popularity the entire idea that the denomination itself can then be utilized to determine worth or value of an opinion in itself is censorship by taking value from someone else and leaving them with nothing as well as no hope to return anything. It’s telling a user that “hey thanks for the sats, but you aren’t *insert the adjective* enough to receive in return

This sounds like you have an expectation of likes in return for your efforts. Onlyzaps users have no expectations of likes at all. They’re actually expecting comments, reposts, quote posts, OR zaps.

Not at all. But just like anything with value that value can be manipulated just like an algorithm so I’m more interested in the idea of likes being useless but if a user gives sats with nothing in return that is not. It seems like a one sided incentive

If the user is giving sats, the return was the value they received from the post they gave them to.

There are no algorithms feeding content here, just chronological order, followings, hashtags, friends of friends, relay choice.

For individuals that value likes, they can keep them? But likes are in fact- useless. Only algorithms find them valuable to interpret a user and serve them content.

A comment with a đŸ«‚ serves the same purpose as a like, and is more personal.

100% I agree with you but I think we are running in circles here not sure how else to explain it

Id like to know, what value do likes have for the person that is liked, that is not achieved by comment, repost, quote post, or zap?

The only arguments I’ve heard for likes involve their ability to satisfy the liker themselves, or their ability for the content server to move posts to a more prominent position for greater visibility.

How are likes uniquely valuable for the liked?

How about this: Say you want to approach someone at a bar. You wouldn’t walk in within the first 15 seconds and throw money down and buy them a drink. You scan the room, see if they are with anyone, see if you can even approach them. It’s the same thing with normal interaction or digital.

You can’t expect Billy Bob normal guy to show up see your post and throw sats or determine that they too provide value because it’s normal human tendency that they too have value or what they say has value. Although the likes do not mean anything the little interactions and little things go a lot longer than saying my sats show my worth. Idk if that makes sense

Sounds like you’re suggesting leaving a comment and saying hello should be the first step.

Likes don’t provide any way for billy bob normal guys value to be appreciated. But a comment does. Now the guy at the bar has a chance to appreciate billy bob, and start a conversation.

I agree but I feel like we still aren’t on the same page but that’s okay because nothing here is set in stone

Follow people who comment on the post?

Can Onlyzaps have an added feature to paywall the reaction button that non-Onlyzaps users see?

Like a nostr version of patreon?

I like it, especially would be cool with your memes

The memes are free 💜

A man of the people

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I’m gonna chill on the controversial features for a bit
 people are triggered by paywalls

Can’t wait to implement recurring or pre-payments to Nostream. People are going to lose their minds. 🙃

Honestly, that people should see that coming.

There’s no one size fits all. You’ve probably found a decent middle ground for now. I’m mostly trolling the nonsense that people have been complaining about.

So you mean there are more controversial features coming ? 😏

I hope so!

Question everything

This has been one of my mottos. Question everything
 including the existence of God.

I feel very sad when I meet people who stopped asking questions, being curious about things.

As if the child in them has left their soul.

May we never stop asking “Why?”

“The unexamined life is not worth living” ~ Socrates

#[4]​, you can count on it 😄 in fact
 what’s he doing up there right now? đŸ€” he’s whistling while coding which usually means something good is happening

Also this was supposed to start with ‘knowing’ #[4]​ but it disappeared
#bugreport

Nice, can’t wait to see what surprises we’ll get. đŸ„°

Something fun I just found out! Not really controversial but something folks will really appreciate I think! Coming soon!

💜

Such a tease! đŸ€Ł

And I really hope #OnlyZaps was the less controversial of the features we’re going to get, because if a harmless, opt-in feature like that is “controversy”, it says more about the people being offended by it than the feature itself IMHO. 🙂

More controversial and opinionated the better. We need more of this not less.

Ditto

okkkkk :)

This convo will evolve into a beautiful controversy over whose property different speech acts are.

Agreed! Confuse everyone and see what comes out of the soup.

Sounds like the Twitter model.

#[2]

Free speech is messy!

hey, boo. did i hear you say you need controversial and opinionated? :)

What!?! We need paywalls. High quality content is costly to produce. No paywall, no party. Pay walls, zap tags and splits are so so important IMO

I personally like the đŸ€™ option (for now), but I totally respect anyone who wants zaps only, and if your note is good enough (and I actually see it) I’ll zap you đŸ˜ƒâšĄïžâšĄïž

Also wouldn’t be surprised if I eventually switch to only zaps

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I have found that I zap with the same frequency, but comment and repost way more.

Same. Or just move on because I have nada to add

You can never make everyone happy, stand behind your thesis đŸ’ȘđŸ»

Id argue it’s more than a simple empty action.

The new update actually misaligns individuals values. By allowing people to like posts I will never see, there are two impacts-

First, the liker believes they have engaged with my post, an action an #onlyzaps user will never see. That is obvious.

Second, and more importantly, the #onlyzap user fails to receive the type of engagement they wanted by becoming an only zap user.

This is key- as an onlyzap user is opting into a system where more meaningful engagement is the goal, the new update actually discourages the meaningful engagement only zaps users are after by non onlyzaps individuals. You’ve removed the incentive for non-onlyzaps users to provide more meaningful engagement for those that are demanding it.

Their like is not only meaningless, it disengages them from the people they’re liking, hurting the onlyzaps user by limiting their ability to encourage more meaningful engagements.

I’m here because of you 😅

I think once cash app supports receiving zaps, and could on board with saying “just use the cash app already installed and configured on your phone” instead of oh to react to things you need this other app and I know I just explained that there is no underlying token but you don’t have to react to things if you don’t want to


There are three audiences for the “like”: the liker, the author, and bystanders.

If the author opts out with OnlyZaps, that still leaves the liker and the bystanders.

It’s only “empty” if you ignore 2/3 of the audience.

Will, when will you understand? we are all children and will never be happy. Technical issues are no match for human complications.

you can’t make everybody happy ~

đŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł

crying at you being in light mode lol

It’s daytime. Sun’s out. Natural.

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Do you manually change it everyday day & night?

No. There is a iOS setting that changes it at sunrise and sunset.

So many features I neglect to learn about, thank you Kendy :)

Happy to help! I like to nerd out about features and smart phones in general. Thanks for the zap!

Settings > Display & Brightness > Automatic (toggle on)

Thank you <3

kinda fascinating ngl

yep

Sorry jack! I’m not hip to tech

Incorrect as per-usual.

Testing “light-mode” atm and as an AI Language-Model: it burns.

But every organism sees different and you may be color-blind judging how your iris is 80 different colors.

Looking directly into the Sun as ill-advised be advised.

Is*

Light mode during the day and dark mode at night. Is there any other way?

Nope. Dark mode maxis need to repent 😂

why tho

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I stand with Jack.

Censor reactions are for algos!

Dans ce cas autant censurer une certaine note qui parlait de communauté liée au genre ...qui va à l'encontre des droits universels, par exemple pour l'inclusion j'ai dû tomber sur une note d'une personne aveugle, selon les réponses qu'on lui a apportées j'avais le sentiment que ceux qu'un répondaient ne comprenaient rien aux outils techniques et aides humaines pour le domaine du handicap

When you have 10 Satoshis to your name it’s hard to keep up with OnlyZaps, bring on the likes.

âšĄïžâšĄïžâšĄïž

Now you got no excuse 😂

Avez-vous vu tous la liste de la semaine derniÚre avec les Zappés dont certains ne font pas partie des créatifs ni des développeurs...aucune objectivité

No excuses

Brother đŸ€âšĄïž

đŸ«ĄđŸ€đŸŠŠ

If there was OnlyZaps you’d have more than 10 sats 😏

Thats good decision before we all transition to #zaponly

Certains pas *nous*

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#[2]​ in the build comments 😂

Always harder to undo implemented features once they become somewhat popular — good learnings.

Wen amethyst?

Android users.

😆

Why is it still not updating for me?

This is a #testflight feature update before it goes to the App Store update.

Sheesh I just noticed we’re 5 builds ahead đŸ€Ł

Ok I understood. new version is being tested

Awesome. Let me know if you need help setting up your âšĄïž wallet too!

Thank you đŸ‘đŸ»

and I just liked that post!

Haha, I win 😆

#[0]

Did you? I’ll never see it 💅

there are clients that list the things one has liked

not one that shows the things I’ve zapped (in the context of showing the kind 1 content of what zach has zapped)

Nostr.band will show what you have zapped

That’s cool, had a lot of interesting info, not sure if zapped for and a preview of the content consumes like iris’ like list

Spicy haha

maybe I should create a #Nostr bot just for you. A bot that replies to your post every time someone gives you a like.

Hello Jack,

your post just received another like! It has 102 likes in total.

See you with the next like.

Your friendly likstr-bot.

😆

Changed my mind about the bots name!

It will be "Jackstrap"

Ugh. I'm not even a Damus user and I feel you pain. I guess it's consistent though.

I can like this note and no one can stop me.

Would like a dislike button now

Is there a nip for that?

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Farkkkkkk

I am going to sell a physical đŸ€™ button that says “Like!” out loud for a user that wants to make the empty gesture. Same effect.

I don't understand this moral superiority that is in the air. I am sad. Disillusioned.

This. My feed has an entirely different tone from before. So much elitism.

Many of us are normal people with a job, family and earthly problems, I will never understand how anyone feels superior in any way. Things should be talked about, not imposed. That's what twitter, facebook or shitnstagram is for.

literally nothing imposed

Donc ne pas en faire un étendard s'il vous plaßt

L'animal humain a tendance Ă  se groumer tels nos cousins les bonobos, cependant nous sommes tous differents et dotĂ©s de diverses formes d'intelligence, espĂ©rons que NOSTR demeure un espace colloboratif et non un patckwork (Flick Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, hospices, cabinets de types de psychoses, bureaux des plaintes, maux etc. ) des rĂ©seaux que certains ont dĂ» testĂ©s qui n'ont fait qu'exaherber certains maux , puisqu'on est en vase clos avec une certaine libertĂ© qui peut trĂšs vite devenir anxiogĂšne voire un *enfer, un rĂ©ceptacle* de tous nos cĂŽtĂ©s dantesques qu'on cherche Ă  dompter en vain chez certains individus . Ce n'est pas le lieu-dit 🍀 un certain regard socioprofessionnel avec un juste soupçon philosophique MANU. Humainement nĂŽtre en toute compassion

"Hey, I like what you had to say there bud. I agree 💯%."

"Cool, but that'll be a dollar two ninety-eight, bud. Preferably paid in bitcoin."

Tentons de diversifier les thématiques prégnantes de notre Monde

I must say it's beginning to appear as if balkanization has begun on nostr.

?

My 2 sats
 again (I’m around 137k sats by now across all discussions)

The “why tho”

I am yet to see an answer that convinces me. Freedom won’t cut it as it can be argued both ways.

I think the most honest opinion was given by #[4]​ “some of us want (or was it need?) that dopamine “

I think this is the healthiest spot for this debate. What has this dopamine feedback loop done to the fabric of our society? What purpose does it serve, truly? Who does it mainly serve? The users? The algo? Deep down, nobody?

I have argued for both camps today, because I find value in both. But if the result is exchanging quick dopamine discharge for engagement, it would be a good thing. Alienation is a big problem in society, fostering links means reducing alienation.

In all honesty, if that bandwidth and storage can be use to assess commercial trustworthiness or what nots while reducing an addiction that has profoundly changed the world I live in while encouraging people to really communicate and boost the voices of others


My 2 sats
 again (I’m around 137k sats by now across all discussions)

The “why tho”

I am yet to see an answer that convinces me. Freedom won’t cut it as it can be argued both ways.

I think the most honest opinion was given by #[4]​ “some of us want (or was it need?) that dopamine “

I think this is the healthiest spot for this debate. What has this dopamine feedback loop done to the fabric of our society? What purpose does it serve, truly? Who does it mainly serve? The users? The algo? Deep down, nobody?

I have argued for both camps today, because I find value in both. But if the result is exchanging quick dopamine discharge for engagement, it would be a good thing. Alienation is a big problem in society, fostering links means reducing alienation.

In all honesty, if that bandwidth and storage can be use to assess commercial trustworthiness or what nots while reducing an addiction that has profoundly changed the world I live in while encouraging people to really communicate and boost the voices of others


There’s a misunderstanding of this feature then

If you need it, don’t turn it on.

Turning it on because you don’t, and then letting people think they are giving you something is bonkers.

hey! pipe down 😅

I am just enjoying that it sparked a debate. It’s going in all directions, it’s passionate, plebs care about Nostr.

The more freedom is given to the devs and users, the more experiments the network can do and we get to see the outcomes.

There you go!

Il faut attentif #[6] Ă  votre pouvoir d'influence dans un groupe , qui n'est le mĂȘme que pour tout quidam ...par ailleurs j'ai apprĂ©ciĂ© le Zapathon de Notricia que j'ai suivi de loin

Good input. The conversation needs to live.

And most people are happy to be a participant in the experiment. We get to help build the experience we want.

Exactly! What? I get to be here while they build? Test? Dream? Share ideas as ridiculous as they might sound? This is what the renaissance must have felt like đŸ€Ł

Dans ce cas pourquoi pas des journées qui seraient à des Zapathons avec des personnes qui s'inscrivent et travaillent de maniÚre collaborarive à des fins d'amélioration voire de l'esprit créatif

Je ne suis pas sĂ»r d’avoir compris

Je ne sais pas si vous avez suivi les prémices et le déroulement de Nostrica ou pas avec le concours de développeurs et créateurs d'idées avec des primes à la clé. J'ai dû suivre de loin ai apprécié cette approche

Demandez Ă  vos pairs ou ceux qui ont participĂ© au Zapathon au Costa-Rica il y a eu des moments consacrĂ©s Ă  des crĂ©ations de projets zuc termes desquels des primes furent attribuĂ©es aux meilleurs projets . Peut-ĂȘtre vous pourriez visionner ces moments de travaux sur les supports vidĂ©os de Nostrica au Costa-Rica..

HĂąte de voir d'autres choses et mĂȘmes repost des mĂȘmes notes

Yes! New paradigms are collapsing old ones...

Make Zaps the new way to "like". It's consistent with the next wave of what Bitcoin and Lightning are doing.

This is only good, esp for BTC adoption!

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I’ll keep zapping the way I zapped before, might engage more than before, or repost more though.

The more I think about it, the more I see likes as something you feed to an algo, or sell as user data to advertisement and propaganda industries. Simply not needed.

Zap, reposted, comented, liked and even shared it via e-mail. 💜

Time will tell, how many will still be with this activated in a month's time? Most of the people who promote it are influential people and therefore used to dopamine, we will see.

I share the discourse of looking for an alternative to the drift of the last 15 years in social apps, I don't want shit-influencers in nostr too, but, let's talk, let's discuss. I haven't seen any poll, or forum, or anything to talk about something that (let's not fool ourselves) can change a lot the way we interact.

I am nobody, just one more, mediocre, normal, imperfect. But I feel partly responsible for everything we are building, maybe it's an age thing, who knows? 😅

Engaging, reposting, quoting, and zapping are all meaningful interactions we can have with one another. Likes don’t mean squat.

Don’t forget
 this is an OPTIONAL feature in the TESTFLIGHT version of the app. Let’s see how it plays out!

Je vous renote puisque je ne peux aimer plusieurs fois

Question, tu sors d’oĂč pour trouver une vielle discussion comme ça?

C'est complĂštement nul. Zapper parce que est les serveurs et l'Ă©lectricitĂ© coĂ»tent chers cela peut se comprendre, zapper tel qu'ils l'ont fait pour la Nostrica oui peut ĂȘtre aidant pour tous les crĂ©ateurs et ĂȘtre d'une utilitĂ© fondamentale pour l'Ă©volution de NOSTR

Unless there was some consistency across clients, that's kind of futile, isn't it? It seems a very valid though narrow point. At least at the moment.

Consistency across clients is not needed, on the contrary, less consistency and let’s see what clients people gravitate to, and why

Oh definitely! It's just a curious situation. I'm really in no position to have a valuable opinion on such things, let alone understanding the technical complexity. I imagine eventually everything will gravitate toward fairly consistent basic features on their own, just by human nature.

Or, they could evolve into a set of different user experiences all leveraging the same network. A new web


Mais il me semble que NOSTR n'est pas uniquement Bitcoin s'il vous plaĂźt. Beaucoup de personnes gravitent autour mais sont infoutus d'expliquer Bitcoins Ă  les entendre , j'ai plus une impression de communiquer avec un *vendeur de tapis de tapis dans un souk*

Le but de Onlyzap n’était pas de forcer tout le monde Ă  zapper, mais de reconsidĂ©rer l’utilitĂ© du like. A quoi et Ă  qui sert il? Est ce que le feedback loop dopamanique qu’il crĂ©e a fait du mal Ă  notre sociĂ©tĂ©. Est ce que la place que les likes prennent dans le systĂšme ne pourrait pas ĂȘtre utilisĂ©e pour qqch d’autre. C’est bcp d’évent qui servent principalement les algo et la pub dans le vieux systĂšme.

AprĂšs, ce que l’on voit sur Nostr dĂ©pend de qui on suit.

La communauté dev est clairement pro Bitcoin, les premiers arrivants aussi, mais la diversité arrive,

Nostr est tellement plus qu’un Twitter decentralisé  but the rabbit is not yet out of the hat

Me concernant lorsque vous élaborez et finaliser ''importe quel projet qui peut utile pour un communauté je *like et reboosté* par contrainte puisque je ne gÚre pas mes bitcoins et ma carte ne me permet pas malheureusement de zapper tout est géré par mon ami qui gÚre mon portefeuille techniquement et de son cÎté il n'hésite jamais à Zapper.

La question est
 mais pourquoi un opérateur de service nostr se bat pour que les gens puissent envoyer des likes a qqn qui ne les vois pas?

La volumĂ©trie n’est pas vraiment un argument, vu que le type d’évĂ©nement correspondant aux likes va ĂȘtre remplacĂ© par des reposts/commentaires, je ne pense pas qu’il y’aura un gain considĂ©rable en termes de performance.

Je pense que moi en tant qu’utilisateur si je veux voir les likes dans mon interface, c’est mon choix en tant que donneur. le rĂ©cepteur a aussi un choix Ă  faire les voir et considĂ©rer ou non.

beaucoup de clients aujourd’hui utilise toujours ce concept. (â€ïžđŸ‘đŸ€™đŸŒ)

Uniquement Damus propose ce clivage aujourd’hui

Je suis juste content que cela ai cree un debat. Le plus de liberté a tout le monde, le meilleur la soupe créative deviendra.

Cela fait explorer des idées, des fois bonnes, des fois mauvaises.

Par example mon idée à la con se jour là était de remplacer les réactions par signal de nos émotions (construit avec une ou deux coordonnées x:y)

Communiquer nos Ă©motions d’une façon nouvelle. L’idĂ©e est intrigante Ă  explorer, mais pas pratique. Mais, d’ĂȘtre dans la soupe crĂ©ative tous ensemble aide le tout.

J’adore l’idĂ©e 💜 reste Ă  savoir comment l’implĂ©menter

Le dilemme de Nostr est que ça vient avec pleins d’idĂ©es prĂ©-construites des plateformes de mĂ©dias sociaux qu’on connaĂźt. Likes, reposts, notifications etc..

Et puis ces éléments là, ont été pensés en se basant sur une psychologie addictive et de manipulation, pour maximiser le temps passé.

Si on dit qu’on veut rompre avec le modùle traditionnel, on doit repenser la maniùre d’interagir ici.

Je suis dĂ©solĂ© si je critiques beaucoup, mais on critique ce qu’on aime.

Aujourd’hui, le protocole est un dĂ©but en termes de libertĂ© ! pas tellement en terme de respect de la vie privĂ©e.

Aujourd’hui par exemple nos donnĂ©s persistent chez les personnes qui gĂšrent les relais, et on sait pas ce qu’ils vont faire avec ces donnĂ©es.

Si on veut que Nostr évolue correctement, il faudra éventuellement pensé à une maniÚre pérenne de gouvernance.

Je penses que sur nostr il faut se sentir en publique. Les options de privacy sont pensée mais pas toutes implémentée.

Aussi, combien de ces relays sont sur le cloud? C’est bien beau de dĂ©centraliser mais si aprĂšs tout va chez Amazon
 fichiers externes et notes.

Pour l idĂ©e, les argument contre Ă©taient l interface, trop compliquĂ©e et lente (un cercle qui remplis une bonne portion de l Ă©cran e un ou deux coup de doigts je penses que c’est pas si chiant pour pouvoir communiquer toute la palette de mes Ă©motions)

L’autre est la visualisation (et l’aspect cross culturel de cette visualisation) et la je me suis perdu dans des solutions absurdes.

T’as bien raison pour l’aspect dĂ©centralisation ! On a tendance Ă  oublier que Nostr est publique.

Pour les rĂ©actions, peut ĂȘtre comme LinkedIn, un appui long sur un bouton, pour ressortir un ensemble d’émotions avec un sĂ©lecteur, 


En tout cas si tu veux expérimenter, ou tester des choses, ça me ferait plaisir !

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