Take her out of the system completely. No homeschool, #unschool

Hard to give any advice in system so strict and centralized and generally Prussian...

Unfortunately from my experience changing school is sometimes the only option. Since you simple need to find most personal connection to people (teacher) who is trying to work out as best as he can inside the system...

Fuck Germany, really

Find an extra curricular orchestra. Fuck the school.

There will be many disappointments along the way.

What did she learn from it? That her brother does give a shit about her and probably will long after the shitty teachers are gone

she won't be able to buy that or have someone teach it

Sorry to hear that sucks but not surprising. So many teachers suck should never be in charge of looking after kids. Only a government run operation let it happen.

Nothing like destroying a kids enthusiasm and energy so young. Should be motivating her to improve not destroy her. Why most kids end up hating public school toxic environment.

Shitty teachers exist. I’m sure she’ll prove them wrong in both regards. Nothing like a chip on your shoulder if you’re determined enough.

Doors are unfairly slammed in people’s faces in life. There’s a lesson there that homeschooling probably can’t solve.

….move?

It’s full of assholes in this world, the sooner she starts to manage them the better, no use in shielding kids from reality

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Juntar-se a outros alunos que tenham sido rejeitados pelas mesmas razões (seriedade e talento) e praticar com algum instrutor fora da escola e formar a própria banda criando conteúdo fazendo performances inusitadas com os instrumentos que tocam e transmitir no Nostr.

Remind her of Honey Badger 🦡

Get her to turn her "hate" for school into practice to improve.

Use the hate as gasoline for practice.

She might be to young but this is great lesson in life.

We will encounter haters, obstacles & we must will over come them.

The obstacle is the way.

In my opinion........

How do you know they said it harshly? I think part of their responsibility is to be honest and set realistic expectations (in an encouraging and helpful way), and10 isn't very little. Not everyone is good enough right now and some may never be. And she lost an election? Sounds like the same issue. What age is old enough to learn that you sometimes have to go home and get better at a craft?

I hated public schools in the US, but it sounds like you want them to let everyone win at everything they want. I expect her to hate that because she is a child. But how exactly is she going to make it in the world if she becomes an adult thinking she's going to win every election and position she wants?

I think it would be a much greater disservice to set the bar at the floor to avoid hurt feelings. Of course, they should set expectations in an encouraging way, but that in itself is a valuable lesson. Not everyone is going to be encouraging. Few are. It's ultimately on her parents to teach her the value of keeping at her goals.

agree with this sentiment but also struggle with my kids about when is an appropriate time to teach a kid to overcome the adversity put in front of them by authority "teachers".

this might be the opportunity to light a fire in her belly that will slowly grow to be enormous and incredible so she can prove them wrong

Talk to the teacher, talk to the teacher, talk to the teacher. Don't make it a bigger deal than it is at the moment.

Talk to the teacher to get her/his perspective and what their exact words were.

It's totally fine that your sister has been told that she needs to improve to join the orchestra and it's also totally fine that she didn't get voted into a committee. There is really no reason to have an issue with either unless

a) the teacher was being a dick about how it was communicated and was really harsh (but please talk to the teacher to get their perspective first; there are always two sides to a story and what might sound harsh to your sister might just have been a normal statement - being told straight up that you are not good enough yet to join is not harsh, being told that you suck and you are a joke for even asking is harsh).

b) you believe your sister's musical skills are good enough that you think she should be able to perform with the orchestra. If it is, ask the teacher if she can try out again or ask for tips what she needs to improve to try again in a couple of months

But being upset that she has not been voted into a committee is ridiculous. I mean its fine if she is upset. She is 10. But that you are upset is weird. What do you expect? If there are limited places and more applicants, there will always be children who are not voted in and being upset is a natural reaction to it. She will get over it and maybe learn from it, that's life.

As designed.

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To all those who wamt to learn more about education.

Here is a tweet thread of several episode links.

Amd YES.

Current schooling is the alternative to natural learning and inhumane.

The system isn't broken, it is working perfectly as designed.

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Devistating. I wish I had some advice for you, but that's a tough one if state schooling is mandatory where she lives.

Surely private school isn't cheap, but maybe one day 🤙

Honestly this is a hard truth you dont want to hear. If homeschooling is not an option where you live. Then you need to have a family meeting. To discuss what values do you hold dear together and what is truly most important.

If the answer is ensuring that your child grows up in an environment where they actually learn valuable life lessons. As well as all the skills they need to be productive thriving members of society. Then any traditional schooling is no longer an option.

If this isnt possible where you live, then you have to reconsider your life choices. Such as your career and where you want to raise your family. If these factors are more important to you than anything else. Please consider relocating to a place where you are free to educate your own child freely as you see fit.

This may mean giving up your careers and way of life. Starting over, doing something different, and exploring the challenges this brings is worth it. The sacrafice you choose to make now will not be in vain. For your future and that of your children will become brighter than you can ever imagine. When you take this first step.

You understand this doesn’t mean school sucks and that teachers aren’t good enough, don’t you? You are not 10 years old like your little sister.

straight up move

That just sucks I’m sorry

teachers can often destroy a child's self esteem or plant a false narrative in their heads with the turn of a phrase

You're right to be angry. The school has clearly failed your sister. Their harsh communication and exclusionary practices are inappropriate for 10-year-olds. This kind of treatment can crush a child's enthusiasm and self-esteem.

Keep supporting your sister emotionally and reminding her that the school's failings aren't her fault; help her practice for the orchestra at home for example.

And as soon as the option for homeschooling becomes available take it because the indoctrination system needs to crash down

WTF is a committee on 10 yo level?

Sometimes you have to seek opportunities outside the school. I find the community is full of people who want to work with a mentor kids. The school walls are arbitrary.

With all due respect my wife and I homeschool our kids ... the private and public school system is trash 🗑️

it's so difficult because the teachers are one aspect but the people above them are another they are controlling the teachers ( the district )

Homeschooling starting next year.

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I speak to all my son’s teachers. Especially when he was young, i explained how he communicated and the things they will work/ not work with him. I found this really helped. What’s happened is upsetting, but probably the best strategy is to put it aside and approach it from a reset pov. Help your sister make sense of it & turn it into a challenge/ game.. it will be a good learning memory for her & then make a strategy to get to know the teachers.