It’s based off the protocol at pears.com. He built it on top of Pear runtime. Same thing we are using for PearDrive… which will hopefully see the light of day sometime soon 😆😅

P2P. It’s a DHT model just like BitTorrent. And uses a 2-way hole punching method to get through any firewall. It’s pretty slick.

It’s really an extension of BitTorrent when you look at its history and the development of it. This has been a 10+ year project continued from previous ones that were incrementally making BitTorrent more data agnostic so you could do anything with it, rather than only serve static files.

Yeah, just thinking for the sake of user setup, having it integrated would be so awesome. The more pieces the typical user needs, the less likely they do it.

I’ve always felt self custody options were always limited to the greatest degree by needing 4 different tools or wallets to get it all to work. Rather than the main tools finding the easiest, more reliable thing, and integrating it.

But yes, this can be done just with the external app like Tailscale. Just feels a little clunkier. Would love to see direct use of it in the apps.

Again… will donate and then also try to raise more sats for this. Just throwing it out there 🤣

I’m going to be pressuring Start9 on this too, but right now I can do it manually without needing explicit integration. It would be really nice to have it though so I’m going to push for it over there too.

How much to integrate Holesail? It’s Tailscale but without servers, no accounts, and no complicated setup. Just scan QR and you’re connected, encrypted, fast, easy.

I’d pay good sats to bring this to life.

I had been, but switched to LNDconnect but it loses connection a lot and I can’t figure why. Mechanic said he was using it and had incredible results.

Now I’m just trying to get it to work with Holesail, which has become my dominant means of connecting to anything. I was actually thinking of putting a bounty with you guys to see if you could integrate it. Far and away, imo, the best thing that ever happened for simple, P2P, fast connections. I uninstalled Tailscale the other day because I’ve just been using Pear stack tools for literally everything. Lightning fast

I know I could do that, and that would be great for my personal setup. But I like to run the vanilla versions of popular wallets that I could actually recommend to someone to onboard them to bitcoin/lightning. So I know it’s just going to work. And I also know how *their* interactions with it could run into problems or hiccups.

I had been using Phoenix as my main onboarding wallet for quite a while. The alternatives are fine for me, just because I’m used to using 80% alpha or beta level software and dealing with the pain (and fun) of it all. But I never try to get friends and family onto those tools until they feel as seamless and simple as Phoenix did.

Yeah they were hiding posts with npubs for the first little while and also I think throttled posts with links to other social in general for some span. Then a bunch of people raised hell and they walked it back.

Wouldn’t be surprised if they were slowly, incrementally sneaking something like that back in.

No I haven’t. The main way I’ve been using Zeus lately actually has been connected to my Start9. But I think most of the frustrations and lagging in that setup is just the connection method. It’s really hard to troubleshoot some of these too because of how many moving pieces there are. Like nostr:npub1mutnyacc9uc4t5mmxvpprwsauj5p2qxq95v4a9j0jxl8wnkfvuyque23vg is running entirely in the browser, so it’s hard to tell if there’s a route problem or a resource problem on my devices for *finding* routes when a payment goes pending and ultimately fails. Then with nostr:npub1xnf02f60r9v0e5kty33a404dm79zr7z2eepyrk5gsq3m7pwvsz2sazlpr5, is it the connection, is it my Start9, is it a liquidity problem, or is it something in Zeus itself that is causing a delay or poor performance for some payment or update? It’s just not easy to troubleshoot.

Mind you these both work really well in a lot of ways and I comment because I’m using both of them regularly. My current setup just runs into little frustrations and hiccups far more regularly than my old one.

Probably. Didn’t they do it once before?

Is that it you think? Is it just the insane position and liquidity they have? I was thinking there had to be something in the software ability to “intercept” a payment and then forward it into the opening of a new channel. I had it work seamlessly the first time I did it with Mutiny and was super jazzed, but tried it again a few times specifically to test and it got hung up every time.

What’s funny is that the problems with nostr:npub1xnf02f60r9v0e5kty33a404dm79zr7z2eepyrk5gsq3m7pwvsz2sazlpr5 and nostr:npub1mutnyacc9uc4t5mmxvpprwsauj5p2qxq95v4a9j0jxl8wnkfvuyque23vg don’t even seem to be wallet related specifically, it’s something with their LSP Implementations that just don’t work most of the time. Either that or they are having liquidity problems maybe. I can’t figure it out. The wallet functions and features are awesome, but payments are just crazy hit or miss.

I had just gotten super spoiled with Phoenix. Their implementation just worked and I don’t know what magic trick they had but I wish they would share how the hell they did it so seamlessly.

I’m genuinely considering it. Not trying to use Ai for something this sensitive, but considering throwing away more bitcoin to solve the problem

lol nevermind thought this was in response to a different comment

Lmao you read out of this the exact opposite. I’ve been so annoyed I’m on the verge of funding development of a fucking wallet… even though the last thing we need is more wallets, imo.

Something I’ve noticed since I lost Phoenix wallet, is that our ability to communicate or “partner” between projects is kinda horrible.

Example: One of the best ways to get new users sats without any onboarding friction have been services like Fountain and Zebeedee. Yet literally none of the wallets will read or accept a withdraw from those services. Phoenix was the only one that would just do it.

Then the same problem with Cash App, which is easily a dominant service for buying and using #Bitcoin and now #Lightning. Yet none of my wallets will let me enter in an amount if the invoice is for zero sats… which all Cash App invoices are blank.

I thought these would just be growing pains about a year or 2 ago, but neither have changed at all in that time span. Are the wallet builders just not using their own wallets?

(I’ve had a super shitty day so if this is overly critical I apologize, but for lightning to also be a pain in my ass today is just icing on the cake. I’ve tried 5 different wallets and 2 different UI for btcpay trying to get a simple withdraw from Fountain to work)

Go fuck yourself. I don’t want to feel better or rationalize this… but also thanks 😆

You ever have one of those days where every fucking time you start to make a little progress, something breaks and sets you back to an hour back to before you even got started?

I’ve been there at least 3 times today. And now the construction guys just cut the fucking internet. The show is going to be down for a few days just because I don’t think I have the energy for anything anymore. If another device breaks down on me inexplicably I might just put every electronic device into a pile in the backyard and set it on fire.

Hope someone else out there is having a good day

😂

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We need this in America

WTF does that even mean?

Everyone needs to watch this to get a dose of sobriety.

I think we have already become jaded with what the internet is, and we forget just what a revolutionary thing it is, and why so many of the things we despise or try to act as if we are "above it" are crucial elements to the entire reason why we are here. This is ALL about connecting people. The goal isn't to remove that, or evolve beyond it, its about regaining OUR control over the reigns of our connections, what we see, who we talk to, and what we say.

An incredible technology of connection,

has become a technology of control,

and we need to redesign it as a technology of freedom.

Anyway... its just a good video 😆

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zUndMfMInc

lol, shit it wasn’t loading any parent note so I thought this was just a random image from the web. Missed opportunity 🤣

Yes this was already addressed and we laughed about it. Funny you coming here to do the same thing… not read. And then puffing your chest about it.

That is of no consequence, imo. Thats just somebody being cheap 😆

And here I thought bitcoiners were anti war. But if you kill tens of thousands of *certain* people then it’s all ok I guess.

I can’t fathom how this could ever be a productive conversation seeing as you failed to make a single point and didn’t even bother to walk back that you have no idea what I think or how I have reached my conclusion, but double and tripled down on a *completely* imaginary person you’ve invented in your head and the astronomical baggage you have put on them.

I’m sorry for your lack of thought.

I appreciate the challenge, but frankly, that isn’t how markets work and never have, there are a few reasons why:

• The only reason we need minimum wage is because if govt created inflation. Otherwise even a static wage literally grows by itself every year in purchasing power due to growth in the society.

Here’s a short expansion on this:

https://youtu.be/vknNY3oTABc?si=kTtyxd06PwJUT059

• Free markets have always produced increasing wages and bettering standards. The govt never even considered outlawing child labor until it wasn’t even a problem anymore. This is common with regulation. The brilliant economist, Thomas Sowell, details a lot of the history of this in his books. An example being when the Ohio river caught on fire, which lead to a public outrage and the creation of the EPA and Clean Water Act. Years prior, river fires were actually pretty common. Everyone dumped stuff into the river and it was completely normal. It wasn’t until after it was largely solved, and people no longer thought of it as normal, that a river in Cleveland caught fire and made national news.

• WITH a minimum wage people with very low skills can’t get work. So the amount of people who drop out of the workforce increases dramatically. It also encourages businesses to seek automation rather than paying less to low skilled workers, resulting in far more stagnation in impoverished populations.

• When people can’t get work and can’t afford necessities, it doesn’t mean children don’t work. It means they can’t work *legitimately,* but the children still work if the family is poor.

• Child labor doesn’t occur because there’s just a whole population of mean and evil parents. It occurs because of poverty so bad that if the kids don’t work, the family cannot eat. Child labor is a result of poverty, not meanness. Every place that institutes child labor laws, sees a dramatic drop in child labor, with a corresponding jump in child prostitution. If the children can’t work, they get raped instead. Since you support a minimum wage, do you support child rape?

• Kids should be free to work if they want, especially considering if they are poor this would be their way of learning important skills and avoiding having to be raped for money to survive. I mean, priorities here. Also I worked when I was a kid and loved it. I know SO many things and learned tons of great skills working construction with my dad from 11 and 12 years old and on. If the govt tried to come and hurt my father or restrict me from earning money, then they are the violent lunatics that are harming my family AND me.

In short, child labor and minimum wage laws are dumb, they harm the very people they pretend to help. No disrespect to you, and I appreciate you responding, but I disagree with your entire framing.

That’s insane 🤯

I think the reason no one is afraid to say what they really believe is because there simply is no shadow banning, censorship, or de-platforming that is really sustainable on #Nostr.

A big part of that is design, but another huge part is simply the philosophy and culture that created it. People disagree vehemently up here quite often, but neither party is likely to whine like a little bitch and run off to figure out how they can control the others’ ability to speak. And for the few who might, they’ll turn up with little to no viable options.

This is how it should be. Grow up, people disagree. You won’t always like it, but it’s necessary for the evolution of culture, markets, and society. Without it, we literally rot and die. Every single time. No exceptions. Freedom or death. nostr:note16qjdcp2j9femtyx00k26da0teukz9q6h30z72ptd60qmpasaqutszxxgn2

Turns out I was wrong. Someone’s creating tons of same size consolidation transactions. Rumors are it’s from OKX and they are auto outbidding themselves to get into blocks… 🤣

Someone might be getting a bad employee review, lol

Well this section is full of what sounds like previous baggage (with respect)

“I don't have to kill god because he is imaginary. But go ahead and believe your delusions. I support everyone's rights to fantasize about heaven or hell. Problem is, is that most of y'all miss the life in front of you.”

- seems to assume Jeff believes in some “dude in the clouds” idea of god.

- instead of addressing a comment about morality and what leading the Bible may be teaching, which is a question of values, he instead assumes some apparently long list of “delusion” which aren’t relevant to anything in the OP.

- “fantasize about heaven or hell,” also not brought up in the OP, but argued as if there was something said about these that demanded a counter argument, which didnt exist.

-“most of y’all miss the life in front of you,” again nothing to suggest anything about “missing life” or even a single thing related to how Jeff goes about his day or whether it is limited by something the Bible says.

- And then of course the key identifier of “most of y’all,” showing that he is arguing with an imaginary group in his head, rather than anything Jeff’s actually said.

From what I read, it sounds like he has just brought in a bunch of religious baggage to continue an argument about religion he has had with people who believe an extensive list of things that have nothing to do with the OP. And then even extends this multiple steps forward as if Jeff’s life is somehow restricted by these believes that didn’t exist.

It’s funny because I bet Jeff has many of the similar complaints and was *actually* trying to address them in his post.

What I interpreted from the comment is his suggestion that Jeff adheres strictly to what the Bible says, believes in a dude in the sky, thinks people either go to heaven or hell according to their acceptance of it, that he even makes life decisions to align with arbitrary dictates of the Bible and that this results in his life to be empty and meaningless, and then that he and all those like him are delusional for it…

Which is funny because I know Jeff doesn’t believe any of that. And his entire point was to address a lesson the stories of the Bible attempt to teach, that most Christians misunderstand because they are so certain the entire thing is as literal as a recipe of ingredients.

TL;DR, the list of assumptions in his short post was actually quite extensive.

It’s not perfect but it’s hugely valuable to a lot of things I do, especially searching, getting summaries, pulling links from discussion, etc. also automated and really fast:

https://youtu.be/ZDw8ZNFBKes?si=B5S0x-4OhOp2NqyH

It’s amazing 🤣

Shit Jeff they figured us out! nostr:note1acg9zvl6874gq4z8eptq39lml7flfv3wwywdqddkuf5j8gehy9wslkm2vs

I do support CTV for that reason. Very well defined, very clear what it can and cannot do, tested at length, and very useful.

I’ve become a Holesail addict. If I can’t just generate a key and connect remotely to my service now, I’m now just looking for a replacement that does let me do this. I don’t even try anymore. It’s either as easy as Holesail, or I’ll find a replacement 🤣

What if the podcast is literally reading Hayek, Rothbard, Sowell and many other authors *to you*?

Huh, what about that?

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Made a new room specifically for noobs who want to join and ask any questions about Pear stuff or Keet

Join me on Keet.io - The Pear Lobby (invite expires on 2024/6/10 16:10 UTC)

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Appreciate it. Fucking love the book and Lyn’s writing in general. Always been a fan and was honored to get to do it.

Fucking third parties man. Never make the mistake of thinking our data is safe, *least* of all our emails.

Sure, but I think people take it as not caring for their child. It would be like telling a parent that they are purposefully poisoning their child by vaccinating them. It may very well be true, but most people will stop listening as soon as it’s framed that way.

I think it’s important to realize that tons of people, all of us included, in some way will do things incorrectly, or even bad things, specifically because we think it’s the *right* thing to do for those we love. It’s just a an unfortunate reality of being human.

lol, no sorry I was just joking. I have no idea. Just looked horrible 😆

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This is good advice, but I’m mostly just commenting on how silly and common it is to have to go through 4 other accounts in a series of confirmations and recovery details just to get into 1 service or lost password. It amuses me 😆

The endless account inception of the modern internet… nostr:note1j60g9guxlxs2dequ8urjc5t2ttz7utg0tywwdhmdfhmqhnvz5jms3n3zw4

I really don’t think you are understanding what I’m trying to explain or I’m not properly conveying it.

Nothing that you have said here contradicts what I’m explaining.

💯 There’s no such thing as safety without freedom.

It would be like trying to get “health” by giving up quality food and exercise.

Or getting a “robust environment” by giving up rain and sunshine.

These things are axiomatically dependent on each other. If you don’t have freedom, then you are entirely dependent on some master for your safety, which is the opposite of security, it means your life is the product of someone else’s decisions.

Security is lost at the exact same degree freedom is lost.

Never lose sight of the fact that THE most important and most valuable aspect of #Bitcoin is its monetary policy.

Everything else is downstream of, or in service of, that element.

We are coming from a world where people never even considered “shopping” for a particular monetary policy, but are quickly barreling into a world where if you AREN’T shopping for a monetary policy, you likely won’t make it.

In other words: the money is secured by verification, and the payments are secured with energy.

We should not refer to institutions such as the CIA, as "intelligence" just because of the name. It is not an accurate name for their primary purpose:

They are professional liars. The institution is designed to construct, propagandize, and create broad acceptance of lies that support a particular agenda.