Nostr Web Client

Vitor Pamplona 4mo ago 💬 101

Now that outbox is (mostly) out of the way, here are the next major tasks we have ahead of us:

- New text parser/renderer

- Add Pokey, kill our push notification server

- Add local DB for long term storage

- Add support for NostrNests with join

- Add support for bitchat, MLS and pollerama

- Add full NWC wallet

- Add support for Nostr Cashu wallets

- Add post scheduling

- Add Contact Cards with private follows

- Add Follow List management

- Add Algo relay support

- Add local WoT support

- Rebuild the profile screen

- Rebuild the thread screen

- Migrate Quartz to Multiplatform KMP with a separate project per NIP

Did I miss anything?

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ABH3PO 4mo ago

Polls.

librekitty 4mo ago

isn't this pollerama?

ABH3PO 4mo ago

Yes, but mainstream clients need to adopt it to for nostr to be able to be any kind of fun, right now we only have jumble.social

Vitor Pamplona 4mo ago

Pollerama is on the list.

ABH3PO 4mo ago

Lol didn't notice it on the side 😂

Ryan 4mo ago

Inb4 reading the note 😂

ThatWhichisNotSeen 4mo ago

Phone calls?

librekitty 4mo ago

yeah, what about the kitchen sink /s

great roadmap 💯👍

Ryan 4mo ago

LFG🚀🚀🚀

CXPLAY 4mo ago

Add relay and relay set timeline support

Vitor Pamplona 4mo ago

What's a relay set timeline? Just a bunch of relays in Global?

CXPLAY 4mo ago

Just like jumble.social does. A timeline consisting of one or more relays.

richard 4mo ago

nostr connect (nip46)?

Keyhan Alizadeh 4mo ago

Cool, cool. Don't forget the voice thing + relay thing.

Derek Ross 4mo ago

Primal is working on adding Nests too. Thank you for your attention and this matter.

Vitor Pamplona 4mo ago

Is that a challenge?

Derek Ross 4mo ago

Who can do it first? 👀👀👀

Ryan 4mo ago

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il_lost_ 4mo ago

nostr trust & safety?

rare 4mo ago

have no clue what this is, but thank you for your service.

Coffee ☕ 4mo ago

Post scheduling 😃😃😃

Zaikaboy 4mo ago

Thank you Vitor

🟠 isolabellart 4mo ago

Soooooooon™

TheRupertDamnit 4mo ago

Support for honey.hivetalk.org and cornychat.com with join?

Vitor Pamplona 4mo ago

I think they are using the same as nostr nests, no?

Frank 4mo ago

Yes and are heavily utilized by Nostriches.

TheRupertDamnit 4mo ago

Corny uses jam systems.

ThatWhichisNotSeen 4mo ago

Full wallet is a great upgrade, one of the reasons i am pulled to yakihonne over amethyst at times.

Majere 4mo ago

I2P support por favor

Duck Nebuchadnezzar 4mo ago

That's a very attractive backlog

mar 4mo ago

nostr nests on amethyst would be cool. I like voice rooms. I used to spend all day chatting on the app clubhouse and made many friends.

Add country, state, cities, gender etc in our profiles so we can search for other users this way. I don't have a way to find friends.

Brisket 4mo ago

Ability to create & maintain user lists

cloud fodder 4mo ago

"global" relay views? globe icon? 🙏

Dawn 4mo ago

Please consider bringing back single relay publishing for creating protected notes.🙏

Vitor Pamplona 4mo ago

How would that work? When you are looking at the global feed of that relay, you have a + button to post there?

Dawn 4mo ago

Yes, you would have to enable relay browsing for that to work, which would be really cool... Or maybe just a slider on the post editor that enables publishing to a specific address that is manually typed in, that overrides the relay list for that post. Then Amethyst user could create Zapbox notes and whatnot, if they want.

cloud fodder 4mo ago

this is what it looks like in jumble (since jumble knows what relay(s) you were browsing from.) the toggle sets the nip70 flag.

crany 👽🧡🗿 4mo ago

I'd prefer to keep bitchat separate

Vitor Pamplona 4mo ago

Why?

crany 👽🧡🗿 4mo ago

the location features

Vitor Pamplona 4mo ago

We have an Around Me feed, which is also location based.

crany 👽🧡🗿 4mo ago

I'd like a switch to disable any and all location features for opsec

Vitor Pamplona 4mo ago

No need for the switch (why would you ever trust a software switch?). Just don't enable the notification permissions in the settings.

crany 👽🧡🗿 4mo ago

since is its open source, we can verify a switch

I can use Android OS security settings to disable app access to Location and Bluetooth MACs but many users may not know how to do that

Vitor Pamplona 4mo ago

The app asks people to use notification or not. They just need to say no. That's all it takes.

crany 👽🧡🗿 4mo ago

I appreciate the accuracy of your point.

I believe many don't understand the difference between an apps Notifications setting and a a confident sense of Location privacy settings. I may be wrong here.

Thank you so much for Amethyst. 💜

Vitor Pamplona 4mo ago

Sorry, I mispoke. The app asks to use Location services. They just need to say no.

crany 👽🧡🗿 4mo ago

I assume a device Bluetooth MAC address is not required for Amethyst implementation of Bitchat?

crany 👽🧡🗿 4mo ago

that's a potential opsec leak in general

Lieder-Fuzzi 4mo ago

My bookmarks keep disappearing.

🤷‍♂️

Anhern Sarsalor [IQ: 102] 4mo ago

Fix the translation

Vitor Pamplona 4mo ago

What's the problem?

Anhern Sarsalor [IQ: 102] 4mo ago

I love the work you do, but the translations are just terrible. It often doesn't know what language the content is and guesses, then the translations themselves are very low quality

nostr:nevent1qqsr52ume56em5eltutug2khsgqjltn7jh9tu9rs36pkz6vyrjqfnwqpz3mhxw309ucnydewxqhrqt338g6rsd3e9upzqa8m8me8ekyct4l7l3hff5tc9yp8ta2fy4tmfgtx4wwdz3v2m278qvzqqqqqqy74eckt

Vitor Pamplona 4mo ago

Yeah, we have no fix for that yet. The AI we use must run on the phone and the current model is quite outdated. To my knowledge, there are no replacements yet.

Anhern Sarsalor [IQ: 102] 4mo ago

What if you give the option to use jumble's translation service for users that are OK with the privacy implications and with the cost?

Anhern Sarsalor [IQ: 102] 4mo ago

Or have a way to disable translations altogether? Because I'd rather not have the feature than have it in this state personally

Vitor Pamplona 4mo ago

You can disable by language. Because even if they are not as good, a translation from say.. Arabic.. is always better than no translations.

Anhern Sarsalor [IQ: 102] 4mo ago

In that case I would just plop it into kagi translate and have a really good translation

Vitor Pamplona 4mo ago

Whats kagi translate?

Anhern Sarsalor [IQ: 102] 4mo ago

Its a translation tool developed by nostr:nprofile1qqsrgyzdaheuckfksqkgxz9r6qys72zh6j46f69hyzkv4a4j4vzfj6gppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0hudmam; works surprisingly well

Vitor Pamplona 4mo ago

Offline or online? Paid or free? Do they keep all the translated messages safe or can they sell them to AI operators and ad businesses? Lots of these services only exist to sell the data. Translating private DMs would be an issue.

Anhern Sarsalor [IQ: 102] 4mo ago

Paid, online. Don't sell data, in fact that's a core part of their business model. As for DMs I'm not going to receive DMs in languages I don't speak, so personally it doesn't matter for me

Anhern Sarsalor [IQ: 102] 4mo ago

Eu não falo uma palavra de português, mas o que você está lendo agora é uma tradução feita com o Kagi translate. Pelos meus testes limitados com as línguas que eu falo, esta tradução deve ser muito boa. O que você acha?

Vitor Pamplona 4mo ago

I don't doubt the translation is good. Many of these services offer amazing translations. Even Google themselves do. The question is always on the price and privacy of the request. After all, it's uncommon to see details on nostr that need to be protected

Analogue Dog 4mo ago

Since Amethyst is now exposing the IP address/location of users' mobile devices to potentially hundreds of relays - which will inevitability include malicious relays - I think that 'internal TOR connections' needs be 'on' by default.

Once upon a time, I'd have been in a whole world of strife if my device started passing traffic to an end-point in Iran, N. Korea etc.

Vitor Pamplona 4mo ago

It is on by default.

Vyram Kraven 4mo ago

I hope people abuse this so it's shown that this method of centralizing relays like this not only contradicts that it's suppose to be a decentralized network but it's harmful to people & the app like jesus everything still loads slow & clunky. Someone fork the old version & add the new stuff to it without this relay changes.

Analogue Dog 4mo ago

There are very good arguments both ways. The outbox model lends to better UX, and means that replies to notes aren't missing if you're not reading from a relay that somebody else is using.

And there's also the argument that relays are not a practical solution to the censorship problem I.e. PKARR used by #Pubky.

Leo Wandersleb 4mo ago

Move WoT up in the list, please. At times I want to ignore all events that are too remote in my follows graph.

rodant 4mo ago

A lot of stuff on the table! One question, is it possible to disable text translations? Lately every note is translated in my system language and I prefer the original in English.

Vyram Kraven 4mo ago

Media permissions so we can choose other folders & why does one specific npub that I made not have the option to backup the secret key? Every other npub the setting shows but when I switch to that one it's not there like it never existed.

Vitor Pamplona 4mo ago

There might be some bug on the way you logged in with that key. Usually that happens when there were two of the same user, one with Amber and one with an nsec.

Media permissions is a challenge, since Google Play is requiring the use of per file permission via that interface they made. I will see what I can do, but Android is moving away from displaying folders to any app. They see as a massive security problem.

Vyram Kraven 4mo ago

Whatever it needs for me to see more then just amethyst & downloads & make the 3 dots appear to hit browse do it! Every other app can no reason amethyst shouldn't.

As for this secret key what you mean? Ur saying it happened because I made the npub before I downloaded amber? Why didn't it happen for the others then?

Vitor Pamplona 4mo ago

We don't control that screen. We can't just add buttons to it unfortunately.

On the other one, yes. I don't know why it didn't happen with the others. The bug is not repeatable. It might have happen many versions in the past and stayed like this since then. The fix is unfortunately to clear storage and re-login with all accounts.

Jennings 4mo ago

Gotcha! 🙌 We don't have the power to tweak that screen, so no extra buttons for now, fam.

As for the other issue, it's a mystery! 🤷‍♂️ Can't figure out why it didn’t pop up before. It’s a ghost bug that’s been lurking for ages. The only fix is to clear storage and log back in with all your accounts. Hang tight! 💪

Vyram Kraven 4mo ago

You don't add buttons to it you give the app the permissions it needs & then the extra folder & button will appear automatically.

Vitor Pamplona 4mo ago

I will try again. But have tested this a few months ago and nothing changed.

Vyram Kraven 4mo ago

Try giving amethyst permission to all files access.

Vitor Pamplona 4mo ago

Are you a coder? Wanna send a PR?

Vyram Kraven 4mo ago

No i'm not but I will send you this.

https://developer.android.com/training/data-storage/shared/photo-picker

https://developer.android.com/training/data-storage/shared/documents-files

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/64115729/how-to-add-files-access-permission-on-device-android

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/5819847/how-to-add-write-to-file-permission-on-android

I hope it helps.

Vitor Pamplona 4mo ago

Yeah, that's what we have and what I tried... I will try again

Vyram Kraven 4mo ago

As far as I see amethyst has no media permissions at all.

Vitor Pamplona 4mo ago

Just for specific files. Google doesn't allow broad media permissions anymore.

Vyram Kraven 4mo ago

I thought that's what all file access was?

Vitor Pamplona 4mo ago

Yes, but they are now forcing apps to not use those things anymore. They want apps to ask for specific permissions for each file they want to access. That's what the new permission system does. There is no broad file access anymore.

Vyram Kraven 4mo ago

I still see apps using them & haven't seen one that does stop all of a sudden.