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Hit the Default button o SEARCH to add a few relays. Otherwise @ tagging will suck.

Mine

Inbox/Outbox is good.

Add: auth.nostr1.com and nos.lol to your Private Inbox/DM list.

Click DEFAULT on SEARCH to add search relays.

free labour? why not

Delete these from inbox/outbox. They don't even connect. They are either wrong or gone.

relay.nostriches.org

nostr.sovrgn.co.za

offchain.pub

Relay doctor 👀 we need an AI for this :)

If you are paying for nostr.wine, keep that one on Outbox and choose another 2.

Pick three free relays for the Public Inbox.

The rest looks fine.

Yessir

Primal doesn't allow you to setup your inbox/outbox I think, so go to https://metadata.nostr.com/ log in, click relays and pick 3 that you are SURE to have all of your posts and mark them as WRITE. Then pick 3 (it can be the same) that ANYONE can write into (no paid relays) and select READ.

Please do.

Primal.

Screenshot or no?

Primal doesn't allow you to setup your inbox/outbox I think, so go to https://metadata.nostr.com/ log in, click relays and pick 3 that you are SURE to have all of your posts and mark them as WRITE. Then pick 3 (it can be the same) that ANYONE can write into (no paid relays) and select READ.

Ya, Primal doesn't differentiate the different types of relays the way Amethyst does.

I'll take all the help I can get.

Relay noob here, please help.

Are you on primal or amethyst? You have way too many inbox/outbox relays. If you are on Primal go to https://metadata.nostr.com/ log in, click relays and pick 3 that you are SURE to have all of your posts and mark them as WRITE. Then pick 3 (it can be the same) that ANYONE can write into (no paid relays) and select READ.

Sorry, I'm on Amethyst.

Recommendations

On Inbox and Outbox, add:

- nos.lol

- nostr.mom

- relay.damus.io

For private inbox/DM, add:

- nos.lol

- relay.0xchat.com

- auth.nostr1.com

On Search, hit the default button.

Done, thank you so much!

I have had time to figure work on this so your recommendations would be rewarded with a zap.

Are you on primal or amethyst? You have way too many inbox/outbox relays. If you are on Primal go to https://metadata.nostr.com/ log in, click relays and pick 3 that you are SURE to have all of your posts and mark them as WRITE. Then pick 3 (it can be the same) that ANYONE can write into (no paid relays) and select READ.

already reviewed mine 🫂😂

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I'd appreciate an official Vitor Pamplona review of my relays!

I wouldn't use citrine for Search. I would just use the default items there.

If you want DM notifications directly on amethyst, add nos.lol to your Private Inbox. This makes your DMs visible to others.

I'm confused. Why would I want my private DMs visible to others? Isn't the whole point to have relays that allow anyone to write, but require user authentication to read?

Only if you want DM notifications. Your DMs are now so private that even our Push Notification server cannot see them. So, if you want them, you need an opening, but everyone else will also see your events.

I disabled Amethyst's notifications because I'm using Pokey which is hooked to my private inbox relays. I haven't had any DMs since I setup Pokey, but I'm assuming that it will be able to deliver DM notifications. Could you send me a DM to test that?

I don't know if Pokey is already AUTHing with your Amber key. That will be required to see your DMs.

I didn't get a Pokey notification for your DM, so I'll add nos.lol as you suggested. Hopefully that will trigger a notification on DM.

Maybe a future version of Pokey will be able to auth via Amber to allow reading the DM relays.

Yes 🫂☝️

Public Inbox is wrong. Delete all of them and add nos.lol, nostr.mom and maybe relay.damus.io

Remove purple pages and filter.nostr.wine from the Search relays. Click the Default button to add the other two relays with search available. This improves @ tagging

🙏 nostr:nprofile1qqsgsea7mylgnjfapk9vnzeyg0z423ueaku3jq6xj3439cplzdnyg5qpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsz9nhwden5te0vfjhvmewdehhxarjxyhxxmmd9uq3samnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7fwvehh2mn5v95kutnxd5hsl4zpe2 nostr:nprofile1qqsfh7sdxw5jduu3wr35zw0789fcx88yhuhsxsuzk4wxvy5v0cy6kncppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qyf8wumn8ghj7mn0wd68yv339e3k7mf0qyg8wumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnddakj773jve6 👀☝️

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Add nos.lol, nostr.mom and relay.damus.io to your PUBLIC OUTBOX and PUBLIC INBOX.

The rest is good.

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All good. Add relay.primal.net to your General list

Thank you Vitor 😎👌

Yes, here, please.

😃

Looks good, just remove cellar from Public Inbox

Okay.

Thank you.

😃

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Way too many inbox outbox relays. Just pick 3 that you are SURE have your posts.

If you are on Primal go to https://metadata.nostr.com/ log in, click relays and pick 3 that you are SURE to have all of your posts and mark them as WRITE. Then pick 3 (it can be the same) that ANYONE can write into (no paid relays) and select READ.

Vitor-sama, please take a look at my list 🙇‍♂️

You don't have any inbox/outbox relays. You should add nos.lol and maybe relay.damus.io there

Thanks

I do

Are you on primal or amethyst? You have way too many inbox/outbox relays. If you are on Primal go to https://metadata.nostr.com/ log in, click relays and pick 3 that you are SURE to have all of your posts and mark them as WRITE. Then pick 3 (it can be the same) that ANYONE can write into (no paid relays) and select READ.

Thank you , I’m on primal. I’m going to try it out .

I've got no idea ŵhat mine looks like

Please take a look. I see posts i made through Amethyst, but not on satellite and the opposite.

Inbox, Outbox and Search are wrong. Make sure there are no spaces in these addresses (yours have lots of spaces)

On Inbox and Outbox, add:

- nos.lol

- nostr.mom

- relay.damus.io

For private inbox/DM, add:

- nos.lol

- auth.nostr1.com

On Search, hit the default button.

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You don't have anything setup. If you are on Amethyst...

On Inbox and Outbox, add:

- nos.lol

- nostr.mom

- relay.damus.io

For private inbox/DM, add:

- nos.lol

- auth.nostr1.com

On Search, hit the default button.

Oh gosh... do we get graded on this? 😁

If you fail, you get banned from Nostr.

All the best 🫂

Remove filter.nostr.wine from Outbox and nostr.wine from inbox.

If you are paying for nostr.wine, add it to the OUTBOX.

Add nos.lol to public inbox.

So where should filter.nostr.wine go if it's not in outbox? I noticed in the article you reposted earlier that it's a terrible idea to put this is in inbox too 🤔

Also, you're doing gods work. Thanks! 🎉

General Section only. Other people can't use your filter subscription, so there is no need to put in any of the inbox/Outbox relays.

Well damn, that makes so much sense. Thank you!

Sure

Way too many inbox/outbox. Just pick the 3 that you are absolutely sure keep your posts for OUTBOX and free ones like nos.lol, nostr.mom to receive your Public INBOX.

You also don't have Search relays setup. Which means @ tagging on Amethyst will not work well. Click the Default button to add our recommendations.

Thanks. I primarily use Damus and it doesn’t have any of these things but now I’ve configured Amethyst for when I do use it.

Just keep the General Relay list on Amethyst as is. Damus will use that part.

Wtf! Is there still time?

Public Outbox is good.

PUBLIC Inbox is bad. Delete nostr.wine and auth.nostr1.com and add nos.lol and nostr.mom.

Private inbox is good.

SEARCH relays are bad. Hit the default button to reset from our recommendations.

🙏🏻 thanks

🙏🏽

Are you on primal?

You have way too many inbox/outbox relays. Go to https://metadata.nostr.com/ log in, click relays and pick 3 that you are SURE to have all of your posts and mark them as WRITE. Then pick 3 (it can be the same) that ANYONE can write into (no paid relays) and select READ.

Yes, primal and Damus. Should I do it for every app I use?

Thanks for the help

No, in theory, you only need to know where your posts are going once.

I've tried to take your advice but an expert eye would be appreciated. Cheers🍻.

Looks great assuming you pay for nostr.wine.

Go to the list, on the SEARCH relays hit the Default button to get @ tagging working better.

Yep. I pay for Wine, both the relay and irl😬😂. Thanks for checking it over🫡.

Sure

All good, just remove purplepages.es from your inbox and outbox. That relay doesn't store your posts.

Do me! Do me!

Are you paying for filter.nostr.wine?

I would not use that as Inbox.

Try subscribing to nostr.wine and then adding that one to Outbox.

Yes paid for that one. Would just having the Haven inbox suffice?

I would add another one for redundancy, like nos.lol

I think I am not using relays correctly. Need suggestions.

You shouldn’t have to think about it

I dont understand... Why not?

because if you have to nostr fails for everyone except techies

We are def not at that stage yet...

Way too many errors. Way too many relays. Way too many typos. Too many clients adding everything into NIP-65...

Way too many people not knowing where their posts are.

Are you on primal or amethyst? You have way too many inbox/outbox relays. If you are on Primal go to https://metadata.nostr.com/ log in, click relays and pick 3 that you are SURE to have all of your posts and mark them as WRITE. Then pick 3 (it can be the same) that ANYONE can write into (no paid relays) and select READ.

I use multiple clients but mostly nostrudel, primal and amethyst.

Ok, if you go to Amethyst, you will see 7-8 relays in inbox and Outbox. That's too much.

Select 3 from Outbox trust to keep your posts. This could include paid relays. nostr.wine (if you are paying) is great here.

Select 3 from Inbox that are open to anyone to post. nos.lol and nostr.mom are great here.

For Private Inbox/DM relays add:

- nos.lol

- auth.nostr1.com

- relay.0xchat.com

Hit the Default button for Search to have better @tagging.

Yes, please. You'll have a decent laugh.

127 relays??? WTF?

Seriously, the client is only connecting to the first 30 relays.. The rest is just consuming your data plan.

Pick 3 for inbox and Outbox. Leave aobut 20 on the General list.

If you want delete all the General List and add relays from the Recommended section back into it. The recommendations come from your Follows.

I was actually hoping you'd never look there.😀 Promise, I am gonna improve. Thanks ever so much.

Pick 3 of the 127.

I know this isn’t the kind of free labour you volunteered for, but would you consider updating Amethyst to ignore all but the latest kind 10002 events (ordered by created_at DESC)?

Here’s my Citrine event counter. I fully reset it less than two days ago:

Pretty please, with a cherry on top? You’d be my favourite Nostr client dev in the whole wide world!

😅🤚🏻

All good. I would go to the recommended section and add utxo and mostr's relay to the general section (just press the button).

yas do me next!!!

pretty please.

Delete from outbox/inbox.

purplepages

cheeserobot.org

tunestr.io

yuhr.org

Hit the Search list's button to make @ tagging work better

Hi!

Remove nostr.wine from inbox

Remove purplepages.es from Outbox.

Click Default on the Search List's button to make @ tagging work better.

🙋‍♂️ I’m new to #NOSTR .. this might be helpful!

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Too many inbox/Outbox.

Are you on primal or amethyst? You have way too many inbox/outbox relays. If you are on Primal go to https://metadata.nostr.com/ log in, click relays and pick 3 that you are SURE to have all of your posts and mark them as WRITE. Then pick 3 (it can be the same) that ANYONE can write into (no paid relays) and select READ.

Where can I read up on what's an "inbox" or "outbox" relay?

I would love to know I'm not doing something dumb with my profile

Remove you.nostr1.com from your DM Relay list.

Add nos.lol and nostr.mom to your Outbox AND Inbox lists.

I would love that ✍️

Your Public Inbox and Public Outbox are very bad. Delete the one that is there today and add:

nos.lol , nostr.mom and relay.nostr.bg on PUBLIC OUTBOX and PUBLIC INBOX.

Help with nostr:nprofile1qqswc88p8vrcpt6mrapvsrrdj3udus3v23dufee4tla29c4sj0k3zrgpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhslgz2hz when we setup new plebs, they copy the relays. nostr:nprofile1qqsprvt8ee6lksaphkj324fpgju2scqhvyy4ngaaxvk7t3esh04f7wcppamhxue69uhkumewwd68ytnrwgqs6amnwvaz7tmwdaejumr0dsq36amnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3dwp6kytnhv4kxcmmjv3jhytnwv46qf6czr7

Remove snort's relay from your INBOX.

If you are paying for Snort's relay, move it to the OUTBOX.

Idiot believe we r on snort relay I will check and do as said

Yes, I'm certain I'm doing something wrong.

Seems like something a explanation video would help fix for a lot of us

Way too many inbox/Outbox.

Pick 3 Outbox relays that you know have ALL your posts. Or pick the 3 that youi know will not delete your stiff.

Pick 3 Inbox relays that are free so any one can write for you.

They can be the same. But Outbox can be paid, inbox must be free (otherwise you don't get notifications).

I would appreciate a setup recommendation or general guidelines. Still unsure what is good and what isn’t.

Are you on primal or amethyst? You have way too many inbox/outbox relays. If you are on Primal go to https://metadata.nostr.com/ log in, click relays and pick 3 that you are SURE to have all of your posts and mark them as WRITE. Then pick 3 (it can be the same) that ANYONE can write into (no paid relays) and select READ.

Cheers and thanks a ton!

How can I check which relay has all my posts?

Tell me what could be better 👀

Are you on primal or amethyst? You have way too many inbox/outbox relays. If you are on Primal go to https://metadata.nostr.com/ log in, click relays and pick 3 that you are SURE to have all of your posts and mark them as WRITE. Then pick 3 (it can be the same) that ANYONE can write into (no paid relays) and select READ.

Using Damus and Ditto.

Thanks, appreciate it

Way too many Outbox and Inbox relays. Pick just 3. nos.lol, nostr.mom, relay.damus.io look good for both.

If you are paying for any relay, it goes to Outbox.

The rest seems fine.

How about mine?

Really good. No need to change anything.

You are the first that I didn't need to adjust.

Woohoo!

Truly appreciate your help/review nostr:nprofile1qqsyvrp9u6p0mfur9dfdru3d853tx9mdjuhkphxuxgfwmryja7zsvhqppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qythwumn8ghj7anfw3hhytnwdaehgu339e3k7mf0qyghwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnhd9hx2tch2deau! 🙏

Are you paying for relay.snort.social? If not, remove it from your Public Outbox and Inbox lists. The rest is great.

Thanks Vitor. Updated!

Pretty please... 🙂

Are you on primal or amethyst? You have way too many inbox/outbox relays. If you are on Primal go to https://metadata.nostr.com/ log in, click relays and pick 3 that you are SURE to have all of your posts and mark them as WRITE. Then pick 3 (it can be the same) that ANYONE can write into (no paid relays) and select READ.

I'd appreciate some expert advice - I have only a midwit understanding of nostr realys

Are you paying for nostr.wine? If so, that goes in the Outbox. Remove from Inbox.

I would keep 3 other relays in Inbox and Outbox and delete the rest. Just pick the most important to you.

Click the Default button on Search to add search relays and make @ tagging work better.

Okay, if inbox relays should be free, how do I keep a copy of my DMs if the relays I run I charge a fee to use so I don't get spammed? This rule means if I add my relays to my DMs, then I don't get notifications?

Public and Private Inboxes are different but both should offer a way for anyone else that is sending you a DM or a reply to post in there. So, if the relay you are using requires payment to post, you will never see any DMs or replies.

PUBLIC INBOX: You will receive a copy from clients that operate in the Outbox model. Primal, Damus and, to some extent, Amethyst do not send it yet. But they will soon. Coracle, for instance, will sends it there.

PRIVATE INBOX: Amethyst, 0xchat and Coracle do send to your Private Inbox relays.

inbox.nostr.wine allows you to pay to receive DMs from everyone else. So, having to pay here is not an issue because you are paying for the others.

Each relay is different.

Bookmarked and zapped. I'll be coming back to read this multiple times 🥴🤔🙂

I would love it if you had a second

Are you on Amethyst?

I would remove a few relays from Inbox and Outbox to keep just 3 in each.

Click the Default button on Search to get the recommended options.

On PRIVATE INBOX, add:

- relay.0xchat.com

- nos.lol

- auth.nostr1.com

🙏🙏🙏

Mostly good. But non of your SEARCH relays provide any search function. Just hit the default button on the top of the section to reset from the recommended ones.

Thanks!

Yes please 🤙

It looks all good. I would add more relays to you general section to make sure you are not missing posts from your follows.

Just add a few (press the add button) from the recommended section below General.

👆

Are you on primal or amethyst? You have way too many inbox/outbox relays. If you are on Primal go to https://metadata.nostr.com/ log in, click relays and pick 3 that you are SURE to have all of your posts and mark them as WRITE. Then pick 3 (it can be the same) that ANYONE can write into (no paid relays) and select READ.

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Too many inbox/Outbox relays.

Just pick the 3 most important relays for you in each.

Will do and thank you for your time ☺️

Removed the relays as advised. But I noticed I lost 10 followers. Before the removal I had 224. Is that normal?

Opa! 👋🏻

Are you on primal?

You have way too many inbox/outbox relays. If you are on Primal go to https://metadata.nostr.com/ log in, click relays and pick 3 that you are SURE to have all of your posts and mark them as WRITE. Then pick 3 (it can be the same) that ANYONE can write into (no paid relays) and select READ.

Sim! Estou no primal!

You will roast me 🤪

Are you on primal or amethyst? You have way too many inbox/outbox relays. If you are on Primal go to https://metadata.nostr.com/ log in, click relays and pick 3 that you are SURE to have all of your posts and mark them as WRITE. Then pick 3 (it can be the same) that ANYONE can write into (no paid relays) and select READ.

Why 3? What are you aiming/optimizing for?

Smaller data usage. The more you have, the more your followers suffer to find your posts.

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Are you paying for nostr.wine? If so that goes in the Outbox only and not the Inbox.

Press the default button to get the Search Relays back.

Your Private Inbox relay is written wrong. Delete and add: relay.0xchat.com

This was a good exercise...

nostr:nprofile1qqsdv8emcke7k3qqaldwv956tstu40ejg663gdsaayuuujs6pknw7jspp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqpr3mhxue69uhkummnw3ezucnfw33k76twv4ezuum0vd5kzmqpzfmhxue69uhhqatjwpkx2urpvuhx2uc86mqq0 are you folks just saving all relays people write on Primal to the NIP-65 relays? The NIP-65 list is supposed to be for the public only and 3 max. The relays the app needs to use to function for this user should go somewhere else.

nostr:nevent1qqsgenu6pnp7v7z4a33032u7yyrfq0h03kuyul3drget9et85uemhpgppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qgsyvrp9u6p0mfur9dfdru3d853tx9mdjuhkphxuxgfwmryja7zsvhqrqsqqqqqpr6nh0q

If ya got time still.

Very good. I would add nos.lol to your DM relays if you want to receive notifications. Just be mindful that adding nos.lol also exposes your DM event to everyone else.

🫂💜🤙

I probably have more than I need, but picking them for each purpose I don't get yet

You are not using Amethyst yet right? If so, that's ok.

Yeah I use amethyst

Looks good. I would add the first 2 Recommended relays in the end of the screen (utxo, nos.lol) to your General list (just press the add button).

That would be great

Please!

How about my list?

Heeelllpppp

Would love some insight.

A video/document would be significantly more valuable of your time that the community could all reference. But appreciative of your offer to the community none the less! 👍

please!

Me 😁😁

Surprise me

Check mine!

Yes please

my list sucks I already know

Please

please

Yes

ok but why ? what's the problem with having more or less or some particular relays?

Please do

Bless you Vitor! Mine probably need trimmitng... you know I'm on Amethyst, and I do pay for wine

Me too exactly

Interested for me and nostr:npub1p9kqh64vqjkgw2ngkvssd0lvvgvwuwfcd7082rdwl0aazxynqk4qvutzlw

yes

feels like a tarot reading

please do

Yes please.

Nostr / Amethyst is just one of the four¹ social media that I follow and this whole relay thing is just way too confusing.

Especially since all the changes recently.

¹ Bluesky, Farcaster, Mastodon and Nostr

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Umm sure…

What is the benefit of such review?

Oooh, Me me me me me!

The only one I'm paying for on my relay list is Wine.

Still feels like 1 person maximum ever sees my posts. 😢

Sure. thx 💜

Eu quero, quero não, necessito 🤣

Relay list:

the algo

everything else

do me next.

? I did yours yesterday

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🙏

yes

Uff.. I think I am late for this 🥲😅