Interesting, did not know that. 🤔

The Road is one of my all-time favorite books. The fact that he doesn't use quotation marks enhances the flow and allows for a deeper connection with the story.

I prefer hyphens - all sorts of them -—– punctuation in all languages gets so complicated if you deal with more that one language.

My take is: it’s all about communication. It should be all about people understanding each other. 💥

Seems the matter went well for him…

James Joyce would approve

Those details of punctuation are for rhythm.

Not using quotation marks around dialogue forces the reader to pay closer attention to the nuances of the characters' voices and of course is much more difficult for the writer

Jose Saramago has a similar style, in Blindness there are pages without a single punctuation

Just makes it harder to understand. Similar to when writers use slang, a few years down the track it becomes hard to understand what they were saying as the slang has moved on.

I read gargantua and pantagruel. it would say

quoth panurge, some stuff panurge said.

II’m not a fan of quotation marks either—especially those silly air-quote finger gestures in spoken language when the speaker wants to signal ironic distance. I’ve replaced them with a prefatory and a trailing “höhö” (-:

DO you keep a (public?) list of everything that you read like Derek Sivers does. I think it would be interesting. https://sive.rs/book

Umberto Eco had similar takes, especially on exclamation marks and the use of three dots at the end of a sentence. He used to say that feeling the need for either means your sentence is too weak.

McCarthy does that Joyce-like beautiful rambling except he’s far more brutal and doesn’t make up as many words for rhythmic prose. I enjoy both

Please no! Nothing anoys me more than needing to read a sentece 3 times, only because someone did not bother with commas.

“Hurricane season “ by Fernanda Melchor is a book that has almost no punctuation and in the beginning is super weird to read. I am native Spanish reader and enjoyed it like very few books I have read. Just looked up the English translation and it appears it is very good and faithful to the style and slang. Don’t bother with the Netflix adaptation. The book is one of the most important books written in Spanish in several years

I have a friend who I believe wrote an entire book without any punctuation. I have a copy but have not read it. He did it as a creative writing project and had it published. He gave it to me in 2008 so he was just doing things long ago. It’s in storage until next week but I will take a look. I need to look him up and get back in touch.

Good prompt for me to do that!

I like using punctuation. It’s like a language game in itself. I don’t really care about using it correctly more than I care about my words being interpreted as I mean them. So I suppose no punctuation could be a good way of achieving that angle. I don’t know though.

Lack of proper punctuation can lead to serious misunderstandings.

"Let's eat, Jerry." "Let's eat Jerry."

"How do you do, Sally?" "How do you do Sally?"

And the infamous "Eats shoots and leaves." vs. "Eats, shoots, and leaves."

I suppose an excellent writer could display his skill by still conveying the right meaning without punctuation, but that just seems like showing off to me, sort of like trying to write a whole book without the letter "f." The art of writing would suffer.

To me, a really great novelist conveys not only the words and thoughts, but also the rhythm of his characters' speech. Raymond Chandler would be a prime example of that. Can't see how that can be done well without punctuation. It was developed over the centuries for very good reasons.

Last Exit to Brooklyn by Hubert Selby jr. A gritty, raunchy post WWII novel with interesting punctuation.

"At the embassy party I introduced my fiancée to my parents, Donald Trump, and Lyn Alden."

"At the embassy party I introduced my fiancée to my parents Donald Trump and Lyn Alden."

I kinda agree with him on quotation marks. My KJV Bibles don't use them - the capitals and comments around the quotes are plenty to show what's happening. Of course the red letter sections are clear for that reason too.

In a novel with more dialogue, they do sometimes help make it clearer, but then sometimes it's hard to keep track of who's saying what. I sometimes go back and count statements when it starts to not make sense.

In Japanese, you also skip white space between words. And somehow it works.

Love NCFOM

I don’t think this style would work well in comics.

pow

boom

Would make me yawn

Don't forget All the Pretty Horses.

The most valuable thing I learned in college English: all of the writing English rules you learned in school was just a suggestion; the real challenge is writing for understanding, whether you break those rules or 'nah' (one of my enlightenment moments).

People who go against the current achieve success because they:

think alone while others imitate

stand alone while others beg for approval

pay now while others delay

Language is an open-source system. You can just soft fork from the way it is commonly used.

I use voice so much that punctuation does not always happen and it isn’t good. I usually have to re-say what I need to say.

My English professor emphasized that on social media punctuation and grammar do not have to be used as it’s just a conversation among people. We don’t use grammar when conversing with people.

is this about pretty privilege

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Language is tool that takes on more power and meaning the closer it aligns with reality.

Incredible idea. Seems obvious, but the academic publishers are going shit big-time if this becomes a thing.